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post Dec 23 2009, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Dec 23 2009, 11:13 AM)
If compared to Plasma same price, the Sony S series..Sucks...but thats for me.
Wanna buy Sony...V series minimum entry level...W and Z seems much better.
Thats based on my personal preference.

If you wanna use this for Astro, TV and movies...better go Plasma.
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32" and 37" S series sucks big time.

However, the 40" S series uses EXACTLY the same panel and processor as the V series.
The only difference between 40" S series (KLV-40S550A) and 40" V series (KLV-40V550A) is the supplied stand (V can swivel while S cannot), and 24p/theatre mode.


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post Dec 23 2009, 12:52 PM

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This promotion is currently available in nationwide sony centre, sony style, sony style online and authorized sony dealer

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QUOTE(thk38 @ Dec 23 2009, 12:59 PM)
Before purchase the S series, did check out the V series and W series (100Hz) at SenQ outlet. When playback the movie "closing" credit session, no obvious different between S & V series (image not very smooth for both model, no sure whether if they enable 24P for the v series). But the different is noticeable when compare to W series (smooth sailing credit to the 100Hz features).
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W series has the Motionflow 100Hz of course will be smoother.
However up until today i do not understand the 24p features. Manufacturer says 24p make the film exactly the same frame rate as what you watch in cinema, but i swear cinema movies is never that jaggy.

Furthermore, they then introduce the frame interpolation (aka 100Hz/200Hz) to smooth up the 24p films. So why 24p at the first place?
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post Dec 23 2009, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(thk38 @ Dec 23 2009, 02:44 PM)
Me too also confuse. But i guess it is something to do with the movie itself (which already encoded using 24P) will be more smooth when display on the LCD TV (even 50Hz) which support 24P decoding. But however, if the movie itself is not encoded using 24P, you will need to buy 100Hz/200Hz LCD TV to get the same effect.

Correct me if i am wrong.
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24p simply means the TV can display at 24 progressive frames per second (same as the film rolling rate in cinema). HDTV commonly accepts 50p/60p and better ones accept 24p.

I've seen a true 24p Blu-ray demo disc connected to a 24p TV and i just cant bear the low frame rate jagginess. 24p does not smooth up the video at all.




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post Dec 23 2009, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(2898 @ Dec 23 2009, 06:22 PM)
ya saw this from newspaper  drool.gif . that's y thought of buying 1 if it's good.
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unless the 24p is really a necessary features to you, otherwise, i cant see why people should spend another RM500 for V series.
Especially now with this promotion, grabbing together with the S360 blu-ray player wil entitle you for RM950 cash back, its really a good deal.

All together only cost ~RM4.5k for the LCD+HT+Bluray

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post Dec 23 2009, 06:43 PM

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bear in mind the 40" S550 cost RM4499 just a month ago.
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post Dec 23 2009, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Dec 23 2009, 09:28 PM)
Exactly, if wanna watch Bluray...get something better than the Sony S series...get the Panny Plasma 42S10, If I'm not mistaken, Panny also having offer now.
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never liked plasma's huge pixels and glossy screen. Its up to personal preferences though
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 23 2009, 10:01 PM)
why would you want to watch 24P on TV? the point is to accept 24P (from BDs) and do 3:3 pull-down to 72Hz.. (something that the Kuros do well)

rather than 24P source do 3:2 pull-down on normal TVs..

also it's Stutter (time element)  not jagginess... (that's reserved for pixel,)
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thanks for the correct term tongue.gif

i'm saying watching 24p BD, not broadcasted content (can one do that anyway?)
you mean the TV actually displaying 24p contents at 72Hz?
then the 3x frame rate is interpolated or just repeated frames?

my real confusion is that, while 24p supposed to make movies look cinematic, i get more of the "stutter" (low frame rate) feeling rather than cinema feeling. i swear i don't realize that much of "stutter" while watching movies in cinema.
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post Dec 24 2009, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(2898 @ Dec 24 2009, 10:26 AM)
people says that S series is not so good, but 40s is okay. is it true?
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40S is okay. i even highly recommend it for this promotion price.
32s ans 37s you can forget bout it and go for other brand.
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post Dec 24 2009, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(Razaelx @ Dec 24 2009, 11:44 AM)
like what brand ? cause i'm considering on buying sony 32" S series , could u guys suggest me any other 32' LCD tv thats better than S series ?
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Sharp/LG/Samsung all has better offering than sony in <RM2k range. However, if you can find the older generation of the 32s (model: KLV-32S400A), then go for that. I've seen it going as low as RM1399 and trust me, that old model PQ performs far more better than the new 32s550, and has much more features that sony left out in the new model.

QUOTE(2898 @ Dec 24 2009, 12:43 PM)
hmm.gif true true.. actually is there any big difference between LCD and LED? (i only know LED is slimmer)
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there's only LED vs CCFL backlight LCD. Technically LED or not, they are still LCD.
The only advantage LED backlight can bring is local dimming (ie dim a part of screen when that part is displaying dark content to improve contrast ratio), and the so called "slim" LED TV is missing the local dimming ability and hence "slim" LED TV is technically the same as CCFL LCD TV.

QUOTE(honamd77 @ Dec 24 2009, 01:35 PM)
im the owner 32's  sweat.gif

hmmm..need looking other series  hmm.gif
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new S550 or the old S400?
those who grabbed S400 during its end of life cycle promotion is really lucky as those remain as my favourite low end LCD till today.

Look closely and you'll find that the new 32" and 37" S550 has following issue when compared to old S400:
1) only 2x HDMI
2) missing S-video
3) poor viewing angle
4) poor video processing
5) missing ambient light sensor
6) missing swivel stand
7) much lighter than predecessor
8) missing 24p ability
9) missing theatre mode
10) missing S-Froce front surround sound processor/speaker
11) missing headphone out
12) missing bravia sync

the list goes on and on about what sony cut out of this new model. This new S550 is actually marketed as L series overseas as a really basic, cheap entry model (much like the T series here). Our V series here is S series overseas and so on. Welcome to Malaysia thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2009, 05:49 PM)
I guess it depends on TV..

anyway, you should check out Public enemies,  shot on digital (michael mann production)... see if you like that kind of stutterless feel (I didn;t, looks like a Camcorder movie.. tongue.gif )
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will check it out when i have chance smile.gif
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post Dec 26 2009, 03:17 AM

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I know few places that sells 40S550A at ~RM3k. Which after the cash back rebate will be about ~RM2800. PM me if you want.

on the other hand, look at what USA is getting :
http://www.wisebread.com/forums/deals-coup...00-a-13806.html

USD 1000 (about RM3.5k) for Malaysian equivalent Bravia 52" V series. FML.

 

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