Good day fellow gamers. I am here to send a very important message to you all. I'm not sure if its okay for me to post this here, if it isn't mod please
remove it.

As we know, there are more and more people trying to scam our precious money away by tempting us with cheap prices of games and consoles.

An example of a scam case that happen recently. : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1266067

Even I myself almost fell for that scam, luckily I realise something was wrong and pulled the deal instead.


Don't want your money to be get scammed? Then listen up. Hope this would at least reduce the scam cases on us gamers.

1. Don't be greedy. Most of the scammers (from my experience), They would quote you a very low price to tempt you to buy, however he/ she would give a million excuses to do POSTAGE only.

For example : Seller would ask you where u from?
You would say selangor, then u ask back what about you?
Seller would say (somewhere far away from you), Sabah for example. Then he would suggest postage (duh if not how to scam you?)
You would be very tempted because price is so cheap. 1 act of greed, 'Okay la I bank in to you now'. Then POOF THERE GOES YOUR
MONEY!

Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone who does postage, there are some reputable sellers like PBBSeller and Ilikepanadol who are far away from PJ yet their business is clean and efficient.



2. If possible, DON'T, and I repeat DON'T do postage for expensive stuff such as PS3 and PSP console. The amount of money you would get con is even more.I'm saying, please be smart people, when you see newbie, like just joined yesterday, selling ps3 80gb for rm 850 only but postage, please be smart and just ignore that topic. Don't let greed overcome your rational thinking.


3. If you smell something fishy about the seller, always ask the seller to send you a pic of their items that they are selling. More importantly, request the seller to write on a piece of paper his or her LYN nick and take a pic together with the items for sale.

If the seller keeps refusing to do so, just tell them its okay I won't buy it. Because most of the time, people get conned for things that don't even exist. Probably he or she dont even have what is advertised right?


4. Always get the sellers contact no. And better yet, call the seller in person to talk to him/her. Most of the time, the scammers won't answer their phone, they would say 'Im busy now SMS please' Then when u try and call again, he/she wont answer the phone. What kinda person can reply an sms but cant even pick up a phone to say a few words?


5.Also, When COD, please pick a safe place to do so. Places like dark alley/ corner should be avoided just to prevent yourself from getting robbed/raped.One of the better places would be at shopping malls, place where there are more people than just the 2 of you. If you're worried about safety, you can always call a friend to accompany you.




So when you realise something is not right, like, seller not answering phone, or seller OFF THE PHONE, Don't make that deal, just to be safe ya.



These are just a few ways to help out us fellow gamers here especially newbies as I am really sick of these A-holes trying to scam our money.

This is just base on my personal experience, feel free to comment. Thank you for reading my long winded post.

This post has been edited by DWExia: Dec 29 2009, 08:57 PM

thank u for ur advice!

fuh, im new here n need to learn how to trade in LYN.

sometimes d price shown is very tempting. haha.

will be more careful next time.

Good one lad. Keep posting if u feel skeptical on other methods.

i agree with him the prices here are very tempting....

This post has been edited by TriggerTigrex: Dec 28 2009, 05:42 PM

Good advice mate.

I hope all LYNers take this seriously and be more careful of shody seller..

Nice tips.

Very tempted to get stuff here but afraid of scam.

I wonder if they would pin this up.

thanks for the thumbs up guys!.

Just wanna make this a safer place to trade instead of more and more con cases popping up in dispute section.

so far only deal with PS3 gamer that barely active in PS section...

thread like this should be pinned

btw dealing with COD(cash on delivery) method is better than posting, esp if you're dealing with random person here


and make sure COD in safe location too

Updated on 5. COD in safe location

Thanks for your time reading guys.

I view the scam topic, both ShogunTravel and sometusks has few posts and recently joined. I usually check post and join date before dealing with anyone. Post and join date isn't to brag no. of post only

thats why im doing cash on delivery for my biz , cause its safer then bank in / posting the items...

well... after many transaction with many of the gamers here, both COD and post, I'll say most of the gamers here are an honest lot, like someone said before, it's becoming a gamer's creed sort of trust going on. scam cases in console scene are quite rare, and i guess that's one of the reason why so many gamers fall victim to this shoguntravel scammer, even I almost become a victim bcos he's banking on the gamer's trust that we had, and exploit it, and many has let their guards down

nice advice so many people have say better do cod rather then postage.. bcoz if anything happen both side also not good.. that is the point lo

For the most part, I do agree with TS.

But not with no. 4.

I always say "Busy now, SMS" when in a noisy place where it is impossible to talk without shouting louder than a jet engine.

ive been scammed by gnsumas , gnsumas told me that gnsumas = girl , but the reality was a genuine male... lolz

Oh I see. So gnsumas is ranma, changing gender to female while in front of pc and turning back to male when going out. How convenient.

It seems that the scammer isnt busted yet. So many being cheated yet none has take action yet?! So the name's "ShogunTravel", I see. He must be "traveling" now to avoid being arrested.

surely this is not applied to everyone, but try learn to say 'NO'. Sometimes scammer may offer you an additional item or nice price, instead when you meet them and they give you crappy item, esp when it comes to an old game/console collection condition. Last time I really don't mind with item condition, you know like 'Ah, the item is like this..ok-lah nvm', later I came home and regret till now. So please refuse if the offer is below your expectation

just sakat gnsumas only...hahahah

ajis scammed me once
i was never the same

It seems like conman is every where these days.. better pray not to be scammed, or pay for blessings (best solution) not to be scammed

why so many scams lately?
COD is safer but too bad i live in ipoh,
Postage is probably the only option for me.

many conman prefer postage method...the best COD.

Many conman prefer postage method, yes.

But many robber/killer prefer COD method, so there is no absolute safe way!

Damn those people!

That's why COD in public place with lotsa people and cannot run away easily. Don't COD at some back alley at 3am in the morning lar!!!

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This post has been edited by kenn456: Feb 10 2010, 12:58 PM

Care to point which sales thread??

simple tips..
go to reliable seller

from my sales thread.
what should i do now?
he said banked in, but i didnt received the payment,anyone pls help!

best to check his history

his old threads

his succesful history

-few post only, no threads, no history of trade.

what should i do?
he did give me his acc no and name, can i head to bank for a check?

-give him call
-trust him
-cod

Only this 3 choices only lol

U can ask him for a list of successful history, if he has one

ok. solved.thanks everyone.

this kind of scammer really gives people like me problem to sell stuff .. i prefer postage and most of my games stuff are bought and sold using post to forumer and seller in this forum.. but then most buyers that are brave enough to buy from me are people that have -20 below post..

there's also another kind of scam going on and i was pmed by one b4. he claim he was scammed b4 and want to buy my wii but only wanna pay half.. after postage only pay another half. obviously scam.. i straight away chase him away

Yeah same here...i simply prefer to do POSTAGE and not COD....dun wanna waste time and money just to do some small COD...unless the item to bulky cannot do postage then no choice.

haha...pay half for the WII...you should say ok...then send him only the cable.....then send the rest when he pays full!!!

how did he scam you?

Bcos of these kinda people, i cant even sell my wii...one guy even cancel and said he cant trust me and want COD..im in Kulim..and i think he is in KL...arghhhhh...

Has LYN gone that bad...i used to do postage without any problem....6-8 months ago...

Nice piece off advice. Disagree with number 4 though, I'm a trader myself and I have a full time job. Definitely can't pick up the phone when my boss is next to me while working, its rude and unprofessional.