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post Dec 28 2009, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(vampbreak @ Dec 28 2009, 12:13 AM)
For example, if i have 2 card, let say MBB Petronas & Sony Visa. I have an easy payment made with Sony card, but since I want to keep MBB Petronas due to petrol rebate, can I transfer my easy payment to my Petronas card and cancel my Sony card then?
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Have to dissappoint you again ... the answer is no. EZ payments are never transferable.
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post Dec 28 2009, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Dec 28 2009, 01:21 PM)
Yes they do, but its very easily obtainable, thus the somewhat lack of exclusivity  tongue.gif
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SCB VISA Infinite was previously available via application but now only offered to SCB's PB customers. You'll need to have RM250K in deposits with the bank to own this card now. I'm not sure whether you constitute this as easy and non-exclusive. For the past 1 year, I may have sighted like once or twice the SCB's VISA Infinite.

RHB VISA Infinite (It is not available for application) will be offered to customers having RM1 million in deposits with RHB. Sure very exclusive one. tongue.gif

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post Dec 28 2009, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(winner @ Dec 28 2009, 05:09 PM)
Are you sure RHB VI is offered to those having RM1mil deposit? If my memory serves me right, I was informed by an RM early this year that one needed to become PB customer, ie., having at least RM200k deposit or RM1mil loan + RM10k investment account with RHB, in order to be invited for RHB VI.

The above requirements may have changed over times.
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Well ... here's some info on RHB complimentary card.

Yes, entry level deposit / investment to become RHB PB is RM200k and you'll only get complimentary Gold cc. RM500K will get you a Platinum complimentary card. FYI, RHB VI min CL is RM200k ....


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QUOTE(Lerner @ Dec 28 2009, 06:04 PM)
Thanks.
I usually paid it in full, but i will miss out some payment due to busy schedule. is it either late payment or full payment, i never practise min payments.

I ask for higher credit as i planning to do some big-sum purchase in near future. futhermore i am cutting down my number cards due to the tax. Hopefully the banker will read my mind smile.gif make it automatically. it will be no fun/suprise if i make the request in writting.
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Late payments is not good in bank books lah bro. CL increase comes with good track record over a very long period of time. It took me 3 yrs back then (if I remember it well) before I got my 1st CL increase. Unless your CL is ultra low, these increases won't be so soon.

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post Dec 28 2009, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Dec 28 2009, 07:49 PM)
Would late payment be stated in the CCRIS report? IF yes that is bad as the report will state late payment and no mentioned if you pay in full or not.
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I can't remember what system it is but in the previous version of this thread one forummer did mention this. Basically the system will capture whether you are a on-time, late or don't pay @ all. And you are right ... it won't state the amount. This info will be visible to all banks.

So ... paying late is not a good habit to have. Period.
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post Jan 1 2010, 09:05 AM

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Happy New Year everyone!
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post Jan 2 2010, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(engtat @ Jan 2 2010, 01:45 PM)
I am using Citibank Goldcard, want to ask, for year 2010, they still WILL NOT GIVE point if pumping petrol?
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Not just Citibank, all banks will not award points for pumping petrol.
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post Jan 2 2010, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(silentpeas @ Jan 2 2010, 09:36 PM)
hi, i have some questions regarding installment payment of credit balance and available balance.
Lets say i've purchased a gadget priced RM2000 using credit card with credit limit 3k. and then the bank offer installment plan 12 months for that purchase. assume i have to pay rm170 for 12 months, is that the payment is like normal credit card payment? if i have other retail purchase other than that RM2000 installment, i have to pay more than RM170 every month is that right? example i pay rm300, will the bank automatically clear rm170 for the installment and the rest for other balance?
and what will be the available balance? if i pay rm170 every month, i will gain back that rm170 available balance every month or i have to finish paying complete amount of Rm2k in order to gain back that balance?
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OK .... let's put this in perspective. Generally (I'm using the word generally folks) if you do CC installments, the bank will exclude RM2K from your credit limit leaving you with on RM1k left for any other transactions. Remember the RM3K limit. You won't get back the RM2K CL until you complete your entire installments.

Generally your CL is still RM3K but you can only use RM1k on a monthly basis so long the CC installment is still there.

Your monthly payment will look like this

1. If you don't use your card for retail then you just pay RM170 every month without fail till 12 months.
2. If you use your card for retail transactions then you need to pay RM170 + RMxx amount that you use every month. Or RM170 + 5% of the RMxx amount that you use on that particular month.


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post Jan 2 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 2 2010, 10:31 PM)
Is the above true for all banks ?
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Generally true. However, there is at least 1 bank which have a different practice.

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post Jan 4 2010, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 4 2010, 06:43 AM)
Nothing is so great about Platinum cards today!
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Oh yes ... that I agree fully! No longer a big deal and it's just a method for the bank to

1. Charge more annual fee (if they do charge)
2. Customer retention and loyalty tool
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post Jan 4 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Jan 4 2010, 10:27 AM)
just wanna check pre-approved cards means u don't need to activate it u can use d ?
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Not necessarily. Check the envelope that you receive your cards ... it should contains some additional instructions.


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QUOTE(ellimist @ Jan 4 2010, 10:52 AM)
Some do have genuine additional benefits right? Like MBB's (and few others) can help u get box seats at MPO a lil easier, among other things
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Generally Platinum cards comes with 'equivalent' priviledges. E.g. Yes, you can get MPO tickets but they are not your regular cheap tickets ... more like the suite tickets. Better to use cards that provide direct discounts that save your money.

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post Jan 5 2010, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(adreina @ Jan 5 2010, 10:33 AM)
Hello all experts, I enrolled in AKPK Program. Recently I found out that AKPK interest is killing as well...

Initially my outstanding balance for AMbank is just RM5k+ .. with my monhtly re-payment for 2 years.. the outstanding did not reduce but increase to RM8k+....

Now i wanted to make full settlement for all my cards.. Do you guys think I can ask/negotiate for the discount on the full settlement amount???

For eg, The full settlement with HSBC is RM9k... Can i negotiate?
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You may try to inquire but I doubt so the bank will entertain you if you are asking for a discount based on your original purchase amount (without the interest) Eg. Your original retail purchase was RM5k and everything extra was the interest. Possibly the bank will discount the interest only.

Still ... if you are able to do full settlement then please do so. (irrespective whether got discount or not) CC interest are a real killer and not a lot of people realise this until they get into trouble because of cc debts.

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post Jan 7 2010, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(ngcw11 @ Jan 7 2010, 02:46 PM)
if ur statement date is 5th of january, when the public bank only will start charge for ur late repaid?
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The more important question is when is your date due ?
Statement date is merely a cut-off date for the bank to generate your cc bill for the current month.
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post Jan 8 2010, 08:55 AM

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@ Bizmind

Being new to the job may pose a slight problem but you can try. If you want to get 0% interest from Dell then that leaves you with just Maybank and Citibank cards. Speed of cc application approval is dependant on whether your documents are complete or not and this can range from 2 weeks to 2 months on a worst case scenario. Being 3 months into the job, banks will ask for just about everything.

Citibank have a 1 hour processing but you have to go to the main branch in Menara Ctitibank Jalan Ampang (correct me folks if the facility is no longer available) and they will ask you to print out your EPF on the spot. I can't remember whether there's any additional condition to this.

Good luck! And do remember not to built debts so early into your job.
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post Jan 9 2010, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(joylay83 @ Jan 9 2010, 01:06 AM)
Hi.. i currently hold MBB visa and ames.. the 2 'supposed to be free' but now RM50 yearly fee. can some1 provide a comparison MBB vs CIMB(DA) vs SCB?
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Don't be lazy. The info are available on each banks website and if you want something for your own benefit, do it yourself.

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post Jan 9 2010, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Jan 9 2010, 05:48 PM)
posting a question on behalf of a impatient colleague  sweat.gif  he graduated sometimes last year and had been working in my company for the past 5 months.
while am canceling mine, he applied a new cc(citibank) for the 1st time last thursday.
problem was, during the application, he can't remember his wife's mykad no...  tongue.gif
so he just thick the status as single. will this affect his cc application?
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No.
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post Jan 9 2010, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(zeroexz @ Jan 9 2010, 01:56 PM)
my friend has a DA plat @ 10k combined limit =..=
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Still have have a lot of people scrambling for this so called "Platinum" status. A couple of threads ago, we find forummers getting excited over nothing due to the "One Platinum" from UOB. Product is called One Platinum but there's nothing about it which is worth mentioning of equivalent Platinum status.

Now banks like CIMB is further diluting the Platinum brand by offering it to retain customers due to the RM50 service tax fiasco. I think a lot of the old Platinum card holders sure feel upset coz their cards no meaning anymore. The last undisturbed frontier is now the VISA Infinite and the Mastercard World. Hope it stays that way ...


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post Jan 10 2010, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Jan 9 2010, 10:14 PM)
is there a trend that credit card limits have been increased lately? Most of my friends say so....

I am not a big spender with the credit card, do u think it is safer to lower the credit card limit or leave it as it is - which is rm9k?
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Some banks increased their customers CL in order to retain their customers due to the massive card cancellations occuring in the market right now. Not everyone gets it but a lot of people get its apparently.

RM9k is not a big credit limit. I suggest you to keep it that way coz if you encounter a medical emergency, you are going to need a lot of credit limit to pay the bill at the hospital.


Now ... allow me to clear the myth about this credit limit and let everyone give it some thought. This is my personal opinion and it is up to the different individual on how they wish to see it

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A lot of people will say they don't need high credit limit and it is dangerous to have high credit limit in case card goes missing and abused by some 3rd party.
- Credit limit (CL) is not real money. Not necessarily you get a CL of RM100k, means you have a debt of RM100k. (Same goes for CL of RM1k)
- CL information is visible to all banks though and forms part of your financial exposure/risk. Since it is flagged as CL, I doubt banks are so stupid to recognize this as an actual debt like some people says or think it is.
- The real measurement of your cc debt is your current outstanding. (visible to all banks) The lower it is (or zero), the better.
- In case of card theft, please report theft to the bank and your card will be blocked. This way, you will avoid or lower the chances your card abused by an unauthorised party. There are some cases of abuse due to the card holder taking their sweet time to cancel the card or do not have the card in their wallets all the time (thus when stolen also did not realise, unused cards should be kept under lock and key if you don't want to cancel them) - if that happens then who is the real party at fault ? The bank or the card holder ? Obviously card holder right ... but in most cases many want to blame the bank for not blocking the unauthorised transaction. (sigh ... since when the bank got ESP?)
- OK .... it already happen and unauthorised person uses your card. Well, report it to the bank and if it is a genuine case I don't see why the bank would not reverse it for you. Your liability is limited to RM250 but some banks (go back a few posts and the name of this bank will appear) will probably pressure card holder to pay up and take accountability. That's why it is important to only sign up with big name banks.
- Low credit limit means you have immunity to cc abuse ? Low credit limit means I don't have risk to overspend. Think again ... RM3K is money also and if suddenly people steal your credit card and slap you with a RM3K debt (and not RM10K) means it is small ? Like I said earlier, if you have a genuine case then no problem for the bank to waive it off. And if you have a problem (or fear of) with overspending then you should not be using a credit card in the first place. You should live with cash then if you don't have money then you won't buy anything, period.
- Wanting to buy something in installments is not an excuse to own a credit card. Those are debts and too many installments means you are living beyond your means.

To me CL is very individual. Some wants high credit limit and some are happy with what they have. I have a Plat card which I lowered to RM5K (from whatever limit I have initially) because the card benefits is only up to the 1st RM5K that you spend. I don't see why I need a CL higher than that and I have better CL with my other cards.

I had a scenario which I had a pay a RM25K bill (which I never thought I need to) and thank god my CL was enough to cover that or it would have been disasterous for me. At the same time, I still needed CL to pay for things which my second card provided for.

I once had a dispute which is valued at SGD10K and the bank cancelled it off for me. There were also the small occasional disputes and I had no problems getting the bank to cancel it.

Hope this helps to understand the role of CL a little. I kindof hate people thinking have high CL is 'dangerous', you may never know when you'll need it and if you can't control your spending then please don't sign up for credit cards. I have friends with CL lower than RM10K but every month pay nothing but minimum. (And complaints when the cc statement come and debt/interest so high) Banks are not charities, they are enterprises who are there to make money.
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post Jan 10 2010, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Jan 10 2010, 11:10 AM)
By the way, anyone with Citibank credit plat card with 10k credit limit?

I want to reduce to 10k from 27k.
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No need to ask or wait on anyone for this question. If you want to reduce your CL, call the bank ... if cannot bank will let you know right away.

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post Jan 11 2010, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(tsmin1989 @ Jan 11 2010, 03:27 PM)
I want to ask.. my friend was 21 year old but is not he birthday yet.. can he apply for credit card with pre-approval by maybank?
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No. If your friend is not yet birthday then legally is not 21 years old yet. Minimum age to own a principal credit card by law is 21.
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post Jan 12 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(cheez @ Jan 12 2010, 02:03 PM)
Well, moral of the story, never apply for anything that you don't need. wink.gif
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Quite true. @zeroexz story is probably a good example of a well organized cc fraud. I'll be keen to see how that story will end. OT, I find it rather weird that Maxis is unable to trace their logs unless the inside person actually took some additional efforts to change their internal logs as well. Probably harder to check who access the guys bank's information coz within the bank probably hundreds of people could have the power to view the personal details.

Well ... not to speculate on things and back to the main topic.

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