no lar.. not avoid one.. but advisable to go service early.. just dont get excessive mileage arr.. like near 2k km...

of cos it'll save ur money provided they allow you to bring ur own oil.

......why the service center so shady one....u didnt ask them what the charge is??

idemitsu??

erm.. i thought they dont allow to bring own engine oil and other part??

This post has been edited by tvcat: Dec 23 2009, 10:51 AM

can choose? not too sure. They claimed that better to use fully synthethic since our Forte is using timing chain.

this is subjective.. my pakcik arr.. never service his car.. in one year he only service once!
and he is traveling a lot at least 50KM per weekdays. never got problem so far. and he is using iswara.

thats why before this got some article on engine oil + services con job.

yup, can not bring own oil..

I believe if we go service dealer ,we are allowed to bring own stuffs.
Only Naza Service Centre & branches not allowed.

What is the engine oli brand that the kia motor use?

not necessary.. but do not over too much la... usually extra 1 - 2k still ok.

semi-sync should be 7000km.

canot bring own oil in branch service center...
but u can try in authorized service center (dealer SC).
most of them are flexible.

some service dealer said can bring our own oil..

yup can choose. i have the full service charges list for mineral and fully synthetic.. up until 100K km (for fully synthetic) and 60K km (for mineral)

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Added on December 23, 2009, 10:57 ampetronas

This post has been edited by iluvena: Dec 23 2009, 10:57 AM

Petronas. They used Syntium 3000 for my first service.

This post has been edited by Fortelover: Dec 23 2009, 11:07 AM

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The mechanic just to con you for their profit, it doesn't matters that you are using fully synthethic or semi synthethic. Actually semi synthethic is good enough, just that you need to service your car regularly. If you can maintain service your car every 5000 km, then your engine will be take care nicely. Service every 10k interval for me consider not that good. Just for example, the oil will getting thicker and darker, how thick it will be if you reach 10k only service your car? Is better that you service your car more frequent then get the best oil but service in double of the time. cheers...

Judging from your argument, isn't it better to use mineral engine oil instead of semi-synthetic? It'll be cheaper too.

This post has been edited by squalluz: Dec 23 2009, 11:28 AM

That is just the compare between same category of engine oil, the lubricant is different from mineral and semi-synthetic. The point in my argument is that forte's engine is neither a turbo engine or high performance engine that fit into Mercedes or other premium brand. So by using full synthetic oil is actually a waste. Regular service with shorter service interval will keep your engine live longer.

Just my 2 cents opinion ...

unfortunately they do not offer semi synthetic. only mineral and fully synthetic.
i've use mineral before for vios.. the engine performance dropped like hell. its up to personal choice. do you have any document to support your claim or simply giving out your opinion and hope others to agree with you?


if got semi synthetic of course have more option for customers.. but bear in mind that double service (twice 5K service) for semi, the charges will be more than fully (10K service).

coz i've compared mineral services charge is equal or slightly less to fully synthetic charges (for major services and normal services after 1 year)

u dont need to service so frequent laaa, can opt for 10k den change ur oil filter every 5k, gao tim~~~

but u'll feel slightly lower loss when u hit 8k mileage laa if u always trash ur car

Actually is not an opinion that need agreement from other people, is just my personal experience when i service my current ride. I did service it in every 5k and I'm using semi synthetic oil. I had a few times try to push the limit up to 7k then only change the engine oil, I can see the performance of my car is really dropping at the range of 6k - 7k. Document? sorry that I don't have. Just to share my personal experience.

hahaha.. your's is using semi and performance dropped at 6 ~ 7K. if fully of course it will be different.. maybe the performance only dropped at 8 ~ 9K? have you try fully synthetic and the performance dropped at the same level (6 ~ 7K)? my gf's vios use fully synthetic and no issue on performance at 8K out of 10K now..

This post has been edited by iluvena: Dec 23 2009, 12:15 PM

If all the while u have been using Semi-Sync oil , then your car will not be suitable to convert to Fully Sync oil anymore.
But vice-versa, you can switch to Semi-Sync from Fully Sync anytime.
This is what I heard fr the shop.

So, better make your best choice in the beginning...