i dun recommend the seaton for if u do get it, i won't enjoy the exclusive status no more

I've been considering initially the PB12+, and PC12+ but did not proceed due to the massive size and WAF factor. I looked eagerly for the SB12+ and SB13+ due to its small footprint but recently been offered a Seaton Submersive (limited offer) for a price slightly cheaper than a PB13U. For info, this offer is not in Malaysia as I'm based overseas. Have not heard a Seaton but prepare to buy blind due to overwhelming online review. Size wise, although big but not as big as PB12+ and PB13U. Always like the PB12+ and PC12+ but wife says no to size. Very tempting to get the Submersive but the SB series in particular SB13+ and SB16U would be significantly more expensive than PB12U? And SQ of the new SB series vs Seaton?

What I do know is it beats my previous Velodyne CHT12Q flat out and so far it's handled any LFE powerscenes I throw at it with ease

hi guy,

want to ask i have calibrate my rooms with Audyssey on my denon 1909 and it set my sub on 9.5db which i believed is too high and so i set down until 4.5db so should i keep the setting 9.5db or what is recommend setting u guy used?

Thanks

the volume setting on my sub is already at middle and i believe the issue is due to my rooms.

Wow! Sub also got firmware...so us already owners how to upgrade?

I have measured today. I can fit 2 SB13+ in front. 

Seriously, I got hooked to dual subs. Even it is with the SB12-NSD and monstrous PB13-Ultra for now, the ambiance is really different.

anfiel, what has the sub got anything to do with the bookshelf? kindly elaborate

boh wor... haven run hor le sii yet
shud run tat?

now the fronts aiming to my tummy n penis nia, not to my ears

If you want to go cheap, buy rubber door stopper. If you want to lansi a bit, get Auralex Mopad.

YB request, sure boleh 

I go and buy it tomorrow.

onkyo dunno where to set change to small ler

Taukeh, what's the room size?

I have Onkyo 1008 hooked up to my system now. It belongs to a customer who is building his HT room. I guess it would be the temporary resident amp for at least 2-3 weeks.

For the first time, the PB13-Ultra and the rest of the system being connected to a singular unit.

Tested WOTW and Dragon Tiger Gate. First impression... dynamic and brute power in bass. Seems to be fast and pumping adrenalin as compare to the balanced 4310. It makes the 4310 seems lazy.

The openness and ambiance is very different.

Importantly, the PB13-Ultra does not misbehave that badly. But, the pure power of bass signal from Onkyo is quite intimidating. Never expected WOTW to be so punishing to me. It really pushes the PB13-Ultra hard that the punches are literally hitting our bodies with brute force. Vol on Onkyo is 68.5

On DTG, it sounds more 'cinematic' and those punches are insane. Bass nuts would be grinning from ear to ear.

Shall test it more.

IMHO, it did sound quite different from what I auditioned at Mr Tan' HT room; 5507 wt power amps. Probably due to the room

This 1008 is brutal when it comes to bass. I will have to check the dB scale. Ran Audyssey prior to testing since I want to know its potential.

With Dyn EQ, it is quite unbearable when watching WOTW as the PB13-Ultra becomes 'aggressive' The bass overwhelm other details. Shaking everything in its path. With Dyn EQ off, it is much better with punchy bass that does not 'cloud' the the other channels.

Since all of them have listened to the previous system with EQ1, they think that EQ1 does vast improvement in the sub management.

Nothing beats an Ultra for the sheer ULF.