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post Jun 2 2011, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 2 2011, 08:45 AM)
Bought some. Very pretty and pretty pricey!  sad.gif

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how much you bought ?
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post Jun 2 2011, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 2 2011, 08:45 AM)
Bought some. Very pretty and pretty pricey!  sad.gif

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Nice snag prophetjul thumbup.gif

Quoting my post in the gold investment about purchasing collectible coins...

The winning bid for 5oz of 2009 Silver Panda's sold for USD1,388.00

Predicted it would end up high, but the winning bid is way out there I'm stunned speechless shocking.gif

Price paid for 5oz of silver is almost at 1oz gold spot doh.gif

QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 1 2011, 01:04 PM)
3k to 4k is a fairly small investment, coins are more preferable for small quantities... bars if buying in larger quantities.

Stay away from jewellery shop gold  tongue.gif

Buying the right "BRAND" / "MANUFACTURER" helps when it comes to ease of disposal and returns.

Please bear with me but here is an example for silver coins:-

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-5-Silver-China-Pan...n-/380343526680

The current bid price as of this post is US $568.88 that's RM1700 for 5oz of silver. Which is more than triple silver's spot price.

The good thing about coins is. If you get a bullion coin there is it's melt value but if you choose carefully a good collectable coin returns are way above melt value nod.gif
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post Jun 2 2011, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(`arthas @ Jun 2 2011, 09:48 AM)
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how much you bought ?
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RM876 for 3 coins. Bought two sets to add to my 2009 versions.

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Added on June 2, 2011, 10:27 am
QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 2 2011, 10:07 AM)
Nice snag prophetjul  thumbup.gif

Quoting my post in the gold investment about purchasing collectible coins... 

The winning bid for 5oz of 2009 Silver Panda's sold for USD1,388.00

Predicted it would end up high, but the winning bid is way out there I'm stunned speechless  shocking.gif

Price paid for 5oz of silver is almost at 1oz gold spot  doh.gif
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WoW! Crazy! Whats the pop for the 5 oz 2009 Panda.........Lets seee..... 10,000.....not overly rare??/ rclxub.gif

The buyer must be nuts! Its selling much much lower than that in ebay


http://completed.shop.ebay.com/i.html?LH_C...=silver&_sop=12
i bought this coin for AUD200......now its selling for AUD440........pop 1,000 oni

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post Jun 2 2011, 10:33 AM

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wooo.. everyone hear having nice and collective silver. hope that i have one too.. >< hope to keep maple leaf silver. where can i buy cheap maple leaf silver?
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post Jun 2 2011, 10:41 AM

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This 1996 China NGC PANDA 12 OZ PF69 Silver Coin sold for........................................drum

US $13,960.00 whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif


Population a very rare 800


http://cgi.ebay.com/1996-China-NGC-PANDA-1...=item3a66243ab5

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post Jun 2 2011, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 2 2011, 10:07 AM)
Nice snag prophetjul  thumbup.gif

Quoting my post in the gold investment about purchasing collectible coins... 

The winning bid for 5oz of 2009 Silver Panda's sold for USD1,388.00

Predicted it would end up high, but the winning bid is way out there I'm stunned speechless  shocking.gif

Price paid for 5oz of silver is almost at 1oz gold spot  doh.gif
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in the early days, the mint will not be able to earn $ if the mintage is high as demand is not there. Thus, purposely mint very little to jack up the premium so that sufficient profit can be made. That how item become rare.

rare + slabbed (proven original) + long holding time (5-10yrs) = enormous price.
price will be 50% off if it is not slabbed.
Thus, there is incentive to get your coin slabbed especially if U have tons of panda 1 oz in 2007 and below.



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QUOTE(GoldChan @ Jun 2 2011, 10:53 AM)
in the early days, the mint will not be able to earn $ if the mintage is high as demand is not there. Thus, purposely mint very little to jack up the premium so that sufficient profit can be made. That how item become rare.

rare + slabbed (proven original) + long holding time (5-10yrs)   = enormous price.
price will be 50% off if it is not slabbed.
Thus, there is incentive to get your coin slabbed especially if U have tons of panda 1 oz in 2007 and below.
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GoldC

In the early days, actually premiums are pretty similar.
However, the low mintage pop is because silver was not so hot items then..........

Manyatimes you see mintage 10,000 bit actually sold only 5,000......the rest of unsold may have been
melted later for future minting


Added on June 2, 2011, 11:11 amCase in point

1 oz silver panda 1983 - pop - 10,000

1oz silver panda 2011- pop- 800,000

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post Jun 2 2011, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 2 2011, 11:08 AM)

Added on June 2, 2011, 11:11 amCase in point

1 oz silver panda 1983 - pop - 10,000

1oz silver panda 2011- pop-  800,000
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800,000 for 2011 silver Panda's are considered small potatoes if compared to the 8 -30 million made for US Silver Eagles and Canadian Maples.

Also Eagle and Maple design doesn't update every year like the Panda's.

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post Jun 2 2011, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(silverfreak @ Jun 1 2011, 11:01 AM)
You can visit silverbullioncoin.blogspot.com ...

i bought a few coin from there and price quite reasonable.
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I'm a new in silver and I'd checked out a few sites intro by our forumers here ...

Anyone bought from the below store?

http://merlip.lot.my
http://silverbullioncoin.blogspot.com/p/bi...-promotion.html

I just want to know whether they are genuine sellers ....

Also can anyone advice whether grizzly bear is good for investment cause it seems to be quite rare in Malaysia? I saw a promotion in silverbullion.blogspot.com

thanks ...

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 2 2011, 11:08 AM)
GoldC

In the early days, actually premiums are pretty similar.
However, the low mintage pop is because silver was not so hot items then..........

Manyatimes you see mintage 10,000 bit actually sold only 5,000......the rest of unsold may have been
melted later for future minting


Added on June 2, 2011, 11:11 amCase in point

1 oz silver panda 1983 - pop - 10,000

1oz silver panda 2011- pop-  800,000
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OIC, learn another new thing.
2011 1 oz panda mintage is 3 million Bank of China quota .
2010 mintage is 800K
2009 mintage is 600K
2001 - 2008 if not mistaken only 300K each year except for 2003 (unknown)

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 2 2011, 08:45 AM)
Bought some. Very pretty and pretty pricey!  sad.gif

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Already got the stock from Nubex? I also book but not been called by Nubex.
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post Jun 2 2011, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(farisaiman @ Jun 1 2011, 05:19 PM)
if panda beware a abit cz many case already smile.gif
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QUOTE(silverfreak @ Jun 1 2011, 06:23 PM)
Yea. If possible don't go for chinese panda cause of the fraud case. lol ...

Other coins like maple, american eagle, philharmonic, kookaburra, koala seem to be safer for investment. smile.gif

The price seems to stabilize down this two weeks. Hope it will sustain and stay away from volatility.
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif buying a particular type of coin is no guarantee that investors will not get scammed.

Counterfeit silver eagles and maples just are as pervasive.

Avoiding a scam boils down to a simple thing "KNOWLEDGE" nod.gif

Counterfeit exist where there is profit to be made and unscrupulous business men willing to make an easy buck.

Here is a bunch of fake dies for American coinage:-
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Good resource to learn:-

Inside a counterfeiting ring
http://coins.about.com/od/worldcoins/ig/Ch...erfeiting-Ring/ thumbup.gif

Counterfeit Eagles
http://www.silver-coins.org/american_eagle_dollar.html thumbup.gif

Counterfeit Maples
http://www.cointalk.com/t175263/ thumbup.gif

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post Jun 2 2011, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(Jutawan @ Jun 2 2011, 05:39 PM)
Already got the stock from Nubex? I also book but not been called by Nubex.
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Why do you buy from Nubex?

Issit cheaper?

i buy direct from Perth mint.


Added on June 2, 2011, 8:38 pm
Added on June 2, 2011, 8:37 pmNUBEX says:

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Pre-Order

All items in 'Pre-Order' category have already been purchased and waiting to be delivered to Nubex office. Usually the items will arrive in 1 to 2 weeks depending on the production cycle and schedule of the refinery.

Because gold and silver prices are always on the bullish position, 'Pre-Order' is specially designed for you to take advantage on the current market price. You will be able to "Lock-the-Price-Now" even when the items have not yet arrived at Nubex office.

For this type of order, FULL PAYMENT must be made within 24 hours from the time of ordering via bank transfer. "Payment upon collection" is NOT ALLOWED  and will result in cancellation of the order.

Transformers Bumblebee 1oz 999 Silver (Call to Reserve)
Transformers Bumblebee 1oz 999 Silver (Call to Reserve)
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Weight: 31.10gm

Purity: 0.999

Produced by:
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More Info  Add to Cart
   
Transformers Megatron 1oz 999 Silver (Call to Reserve)
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How are they selling without a price? rolleyes.gif

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Anyone here buy Silver bars or wafers instead of Silver Coin ?
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post Jun 3 2011, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Jun 2 2011, 11:48 PM)
Anyone here buy Silver bars or wafers instead of Silver Coin ?
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i collect both smile.gif


Added on June 3, 2011, 12:36 am
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 2 2011, 08:33 PM)
Why do you buy from Nubex?

Issit cheaper?

i buy direct from Perth mint.


Added on June 2, 2011, 8:38 pm
Added on June 2, 2011, 8:37 pmNUBEX says: 
How are they selling without a price?  rolleyes.gif
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call them to book/ask price....as the thing is not launched yet if im not mistaken

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post Jun 3 2011, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(farisaiman @ Jun 3 2011, 12:22 AM)
i collect both smile.gif


Added on June 3, 2011, 12:36 am
call them to book/ask price....as the thing is not launched yet if im not mistaken
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Hi Faris

i have already ordered them direct from Perth mint......Nubex is pretty slow arent they?
The mint will ship them out from 16th June.

i think Nubex will make a pretty premium on you if you buy from them... nod.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 3 2011, 07:34 AM)
Hi Faris

i have already ordered them direct from Perth mint......Nubex is pretty slow arent they? 
The mint will ship them out from 16th June.

i think Nubex will make a pretty premium on you if you buy from them...  nod.gif
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hai bro, how much perth mint charge u?
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QUOTE(zajun80 @ Jun 3 2011, 08:18 AM)
hai bro, how much perth mint charge u?
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Lookie above.......and i am a regular Perth mint buyer so shipping is free rclxms.gif


Added on June 3, 2011, 10:55 am
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 2 2011, 10:22 AM)
RM876 for 3 coins. Bought two sets to add to my 2009 versions.

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QUOTE(zajun80 @ Jun 3 2011, 08:18 AM)
hai bro, how much perth mint charge u?
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Care to explain here regarding you buying experience of transformer 2011 version from perth mint?
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QUOTE(zajun80 @ Jun 3 2011, 08:18 AM)
hai bro, how much perth mint charge u?
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go google perth mint and try to order to see how much they charge

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