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cruzzie73
post Aug 29 2011, 11:11 AM

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smoky, what exactly do you have?
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post Sep 5 2011, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(chef @ Sep 3 2011, 09:49 PM)

Someone mentioned profit in paper buy in physical. Well, now I'm beginning to think it's a wise suggestion.

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Yup, that's what i'm doing. smile.gif
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post Sep 5 2011, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(chef @ Sep 5 2011, 09:50 AM)

Added on September 5, 2011, 9:54 am

Ah... so you are the wise man... smile.gif

your paper portfolio is maintained in malaysia or with some other overseas company like gold money? are they any good?

please do write up a little on these, afterall, this thread is about how to invest in silver, paper or physical. And since you are already doing it, please share the experience. smile.gif

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lol i'm not, i learned from a wise man.

I'm not investing in paper, my friends and I are trading on spot market for gold and silver. Knowing the long term trend of PM is uptrend, we only take long positions when there are opportunities. When prices retrace downwards, we do not enter trade at all. Trading against the long term trend is risky, not to be greedy, we'd rather forgo the short position opportunities. So when price is down, just relax and start accumulating more physical.

Having said that, anytime is a good time to buy physical silver. Do it like a savings plan, buy a certain amount every month with your extra money to get the cost averaging effects. That will save you the worries about price fluctuation coz your costs would be averaged out anyway.

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post Sep 5 2011, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 5 2011, 01:35 PM)
Thats not so cheap.....thats USd121.70

Gainesville selling at USD104.4

i got them on the 1st day of issue at $103......    biggrin.gif
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Add on shipping and tax, it's pretty much the same price. If can buy locally at the same price, might as well save the trouble and buy here.

And if you're buying lots of them, it's even more important to make sure you're getting a good deal. Then it's better to get it via Singapore. Just 7% tax instead of 15%.

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post Sep 5 2011, 02:49 PM

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mostly no postage delivery from singapore.

but if you're buying lots of coins, like a monster box, it may be worth the effort to make a trip there to collect them yourself. I read from somewhere that if you buy even more than that, like a huge amount, some may be able to arrange secured delivery to you in Malaysia.

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post Sep 5 2011, 02:57 PM

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that would depend on your quantity.
for small quantities, shipping cost is gonna be the killer. its better to buy from local dealers here is you're buying small quantities.

tax % is independant from forex difference. whether SGD or MYR, you still pay 7%. Same amount.

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post Sep 5 2011, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 21 2011, 01:05 PM)
in previous post, already discussed about list of sellers.
but no one compiled it yet... haha

this is what i can get from a fb group page.

1. Silveray Enterprise - http://silveray.lot.my/
2. Silver Bullion Coin for Malaysians – http://www.silverformalaysia.com/p/bi-weekly-promotion.html
3. Merlip-Merlip Silver Shop – http://merlip.lot.my/
4. Silver Stacker – http://stackers.lot.my/
5. ClickGold2u Silver Coins & Bar – http://www.clickgold2u.com/silver?page=2
6. Silver Bull-lion – http://www.mudah.my/silver-bull-lion
7. One Cheap Silver – http://www.1cheapsilver.com/
8. Silver Bar Coins & Dirhams – http://www.silverkini.com/
9. SILVER INVESTMENT-MALAYSIA - http://silver-investment-malaysia.blogspot.com/
10. True & Trusted Silver (T&T SILVER) - http://www.tntsilver.com.my
11. Pamp Suisse Silver Bullion -  http://pamp.lot.my/
12. Silver AG+ - www.silverstore.lot.my
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Malaysian eBay Seller (Klik pada 'Items for sale' atau 'visit store' pada profile seller) :-

1. SilverMalaysia - http://stores.ebay.com.my/silvermalaysia
2. inthedark957 - http://myworld.ebay.com.my/inthedark957/
3. ngeking252- http://myworld.ebay.com.my/ngeking252/
4. 88shops - http://myworld.ebay.com.my/88shops/
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Hope this helps.
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post Sep 5 2011, 03:41 PM

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i was hoping whoever finds it first, wins a bar of silver.
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post Sep 5 2011, 04:16 PM

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Somebody asked me this question before, what's the difference between COMEX price and spot price? Why do we always refer to spot price when we buy or sell silver and not COMEX price?

What's your answer to this?
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post Sep 5 2011, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(chunyen2020 @ Sep 5 2011, 04:48 PM)
Spend some money to go for assayer approve.
If you do not wish to do so, buy bars that already has assayer approval, such as PAMP and Public Gold.

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Joking element below (Do not treat it so so serious)

If you do not want those, you can do the measurement yourself.  tongue.gif
Take a tank of water, put the bar into it, measure the water displaced by the bar and weigh your bar.
Divide the weight over volume, this is the density of the bar.
Then take silver density of silver (10.501 per cm cube) minus the density you calculated then divide by the density of silver and then times 100% again.
TADA!  tongue.gif
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haha.... then you need to set an acceptable margin of error, eg 99.9+0.05%
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post Sep 6 2011, 11:30 PM

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I suppose you are referring to PAMP. No, under normal circumstances PAMP always demand higher premium so when you sell, you still sell with higher premium than other bars. Provided you can find a buyer looking for PAMP.

However, should financial armagedon really comes, then the PAMP will probably be just as good as other normal bars, coz nobody has money to pay for the higher premium anymore.
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post Sep 7 2011, 05:24 PM

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I think its best to have a multiracial group, one for malaysia
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post Sep 7 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Nidz @ Sep 7 2011, 05:33 PM)
LYN is not multi racial enough ar?? hahaha
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haha... yes, this is the best group i've come across so far!
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QUOTE(basSist @ Sep 8 2011, 09:56 AM)
Hi,

i am from Kluang, Johor. What silver coins you got?
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Hi Bassist, i'm at Kluang now on business trip. Will be here till Friday morning. I do come here quite often, we can go minum teh one day.
Any particular coins u looking for? I have ASE, Philharmonics, Koalas.
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post Sep 8 2011, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(basSist @ Sep 8 2011, 04:15 PM)
hi cruzzie. i am new for collecting silver coins. may not purchase in 1 tube at a go..  blush.gif  not much budget
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Relax bro, i did not say i wanna sell u 1 tube. Just asking you to minum teh only tongue.gif.
It's ok, start small, use only the money you don't need. And buy more when your available budget becomes bigger.
I do have some coins, can let go some to you if you are interested.
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post Sep 8 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(basSist @ Sep 8 2011, 04:53 PM)
how about next week?

ASE, Philharmonics, Koalas, Maple also nice i think hehe  smile.gif
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I probably will not come to Kluang next week. My next trip would be around the week of 19/9.
If you want, tonight I can meet you up for a drink. And, I do have some coins with me now, just to show you. Coz not all i'm willing to let go.
I think i have ASE, Philharmonic, Koala and Panda with me right now. So, interested to see?

If you want, just call me lah. Will PM you my number.

cheers
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post Sep 8 2011, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(chef @ Sep 8 2011, 06:53 PM)
Hey cruzzie, bassist,

Aiyah, no chance to meet you two together, too bad I'm in KL coming back to try to meet cruzzie, if chance allow, maybe we end up at the same toll (batu pahat exit) on friday and we have can a quick kopi. I have with me some bars and coins to show..

PAMP 1oz
Canadian Maple
Panda 2011
Koala
Grizzly 2011

some I'm exchanging with cruzzie as promised, some I just bought, and those that I have spare, I can sell if either of you want.

Cruzzie, you want a few more panda?? smile.gif

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chef, i'll see you tomorrow, show me what you've got. smile.gif

Anybody got Silver Taku to let go?
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post Sep 11 2011, 05:53 PM

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Anybody have any info on private vault / safe deposit box services in Malaysia? Care to share? What's your experience with them?

Perhaps we should also share a list of these service suppliers here:

1. Malaysia Royal Safe Deposit Boxes: http://www.rsdb.com.my/
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post Sep 12 2011, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(chunyen2020 @ Sep 12 2011, 01:21 PM)
..... (Kena bang one time by them, it was my first time.  ohmy.gif )

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hmmm....... brows.gif


Anyway, if you insure it, you're likely to attract attention that it's something of value. You may risk having your parcel being marked.
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post Sep 12 2011, 01:55 PM

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just wondering, what is OT?

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