forget bout weider mass 4000

you need the orgasmatron - I just posted it under tips & tricks.

all these weightgainers contains a lot of filler - maltodextrin. make your own nutritious mass gainer instead.

seriously arekey , who are you to comment ? stop sounding like an authority in supplements , gosh.

hi arekey, i was expecting that

who am i ?

I am big believer that getting in shape is brutally hard work. I don’t give a shit what all the scam artists and marketing scumbags tell you. If you can’t handle the truth then you’re destined to be soft and weak forever.

anti-supplement activist???
I am never "anti" supplements, most of my recipes advocate the usage of whey protein. I believe in whole foods as we humans are NOT composed of a collection of macronutrients in powder form.


and you with your so called good diet and 'i don;t know whatever supplements you are using now ? pro-complex ?'



I guess that speaks a lot of volume.

why did you think a guy with 166cm and 70kgs need a mass/weight gain??? he was complaining being heavy bone and wanting to gain mass and I am merely giving him a weight gainer shake recipe to make his wallet heavier and actually contain some real food (fruits and oats) not maltodextrin

feel free to retaliate my comments end here