Works programme is just a programme and can be programmed as you wish. You can programme it for 3years, then revised it to 2years or further revised it to complete the project in 1.5years (this mission impossible can only be achieved with 24 working hours). Works Programme only wont tell you anything whether the project going to be on time or not. For this case, for sure the original master programme already TOTALLY OUT!! The completion of the project very much depend on the management/execution, proper cash flow (most important), manpower and no shortage of construction material. So, its not as easy as just looking at the works programme and in S&P, developer dont have to show you any works programme. They will only bill you accordingly when they achieve the site progress according to sechedule of payment. (I think is schedule G) So, the best you can hope for is that the developer not facing any cash flow problem. At least for sure the project still can be completed even if it is slow.

This post has been edited by worgen: Nov 13 2010, 09:13 AM

Aiya, you also already mentioned mah, "Given 3 years of construction time, one year is gone". Foundation stage also no finish yet!! Common sense also will tell you already lagging, no need to see any programme. No way can finish within 2 years!! If double storey house can la.

This post has been edited by worgen: Nov 13 2010, 06:56 PM

Check your S&P and see the actual date to vacant possession or handing over unit to you. Normally 36months from signing S&P.

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Added on November 14, 2010, 1:45 amYes, you are right. The developer wont give to you all those documents. If i want to explain on the working programme, i think i need to write 1 whole page on how developer run the project. To complete within 2 years is VERY VERY TOUGH. And need 24hours working but then working hours constraint by the Authority. If surrounding areas are residential, its hard to get 24hours working permit. For sure in KL, you wont get 24hours working permit in residential surounding area. I m not sure in PJ. So, in any high rise building, minimum i would say at least 2.5years in general required and still depending on so many factors and others constraint.

This post has been edited by worgen: Nov 14 2010, 01:50 AM

Yes, 10% per annum if vacant posession of unit not given to Purchaser after 36 months from S&P.

Yes, i do agree that its a bit premature for all this measures. The developer have 3years contract binding with purcharser. First of all, any body went to the site and check if any works still going on? What is the actual site progress? Piling 100% or not? Or pilecap progress half way and stop? Or ground slab started and stop half way? If certain stage of work started and totally stop half way, it give indication the Contractor is facing problem. If work still in progress but not TOTALLY STOP, its still not too bad.

This post has been edited by worgen: Nov 16 2010, 10:14 PM

The ministry of housing will not tell you if any project is behind or ahead of schedule. This is not part of their roles.

Construction schedule plan? They have many working programmes. Last time the COW give you what programme? It can be either macro or micro programme. They have master programme as well as catch up programme. They may have also the accelarated programme if required. So, which programme are we referring to know if they are behind schedule? So, how to proof the developer is behind schedule? What is the required minimum cycle times of each trade involved in the programme?

The best is to understand what actually happened at site. By looking at the site activities, we can have some indication what is happening. Contractor progress but very slow? Or Contractor stop works ie no activities at all? Activity at this moment shall just the structural works. If we are certain that there is no activities or very slow progress and very few manpower, then only we go to the developer office and ask the appropriate questions. If they have not bill you the foundation, try to ask them when is the billing. Then also, ask the tentative next billing ie the structure frame works. All the billing in your S&P mostly in the sequence of construction.

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Added on November 16, 2010, 11:59 pmPiling is not a issue here. This is just a normal pile use in the market as this is just a normal building. Manufacturing or curing of pile not a issue for the Contractor. All building must have solid foundation whether low cost apartment or high end condo. Solid foundation depend on engineer proper design and the construction follow Method of Statement and Inspection Test Plan. Piling longer time dont gurantee better quality.

This post has been edited by worgen: Nov 17 2010, 12:31 AM

No such things as 'expensive pile'. Type of pile used or choosen depend on the most economical, efficiency, soil condition and the most appropriate method, and have comply to environmental requirement such as no vibration if near residential area. If not all adjacent building will have crack problem.

This post has been edited by worgen: Nov 17 2010, 09:17 AM

Yes, you are right. But before look for explaination, get the right facts 1st , then pose the right question to the 3 daughters.

This post has been edited by worgen: Nov 17 2010, 09:25 AM

Now can try get explantion from the 3 daughters why stop work? Other than that, hmmm, nothing much can be done.. Normally la, money problem is the main culprit. Never pay the Substructure Contractor??

This post has been edited by worgen: Nov 17 2010, 10:24 AM