u are agent .. and yea u sounded exactly like one .. sure get appreciation .. so how many units have u grabbed .. no need sell la, u buy u sure become rich ..
now my pov, YTL prop always have high appreciation from launching till completion .. but after completion, price still goes up but at a much slower rate .. so i believe sure go up also but question is how long and how much ..

if the place is very nice, why is it good place for own stay only ? investment wise is not feasible ?
titiwangsa sentral doesnt look nice at all, but some forumers hard sell it to be investment viable place ..

This post has been edited by zavier98: Oct 2 2011, 10:23 AM

YTL is well known for their high maintenance fees .. ask the owners, they never complain even after jmb took over .. who will complain if the money is used wisely for maintenance ?
comparing midfield and titiwangsa sentral, it's no brainer to choose midfields .. at least midfields r confident with steady capital appreciation like u see in saffron and tamarind ..
as Pai mentioned that ts can reach 770k, in that case i dont see why midfields cant reach 888k .. of cos Pai also said "only God knows when"

what numbers that u so intelligently look at ? rumors of maintenance fees at 0.38 ? the rental yield there ?
mf has just got their vp .. what numbers are u expecting to compare ? come on, move on and dont make a shame on urself again ..

we can compare mf and ts but let's do it the smart way okay ..
1) mf is already selling at bout 420k now .. ok losing to ts which is at bout 460k ..
however, the lower price is because it just got vp, price will escalate and stabilise in the coming months and most importantly the block 2/3 has not completed and u havent seen the full landscape of midfields just yet .. upon full completion of midfields + shoplots, i expect the price to exceed ts ..
2) facilities, i dont wanna talk bout it .. but i know u like to talk bout it .. to me, nowadays, the facilities are pretty standard .. nothing to shout about .. but if u insist, i think mf is the only condo that comes with a futsal court .. i dont know how much it will be utilised or even how it will impact the price, but to someone it's just gonna be a 'wow' ..
3) landscape .. i know recently u have been praising ts being looking good with facilities etc .. if ts were to compare with mf, i think i can spit at ts jor .. well beauty lies in the eye of beholder .. but do let me know if there is anyone who dare to say ts looks better than mf .. btw, i dont see many condos come with such a generous and nice landscaping ..
4) what else to say .. ok location ? let's do it ur way .. isnt mf nearer to KL city centre .. i however acknowledge both are strategically located ..
5) now rental .. while some boasted ts to have 2.8k rent, but on average, we know ts rent is only slightly above 2k rent .. however, it would be difficult to compare against mf at this stage .. but again, upon completion of all blocks, i dont see why mf cant command a rent of 3k .. my benchmark is on saffron (of cos not ts )
6) maintenance .. mf charge high maintenance fee ... bad thing .. but look at tamarind and saffron, they look good / better than ts despite their age .. with low maintenance fees of ts + many tenants, u can be sure ts will run down quicker than expected .. hence i would say mf price will exceed ts in coming years .. slowly but surely ..
7) amenities, ok ts win hands down .. but not after the new shoplot complete ..
8) why not Pai tell us what TS is so special that it is considered more investemnet viable than mf ..
show us ur intelligence, Pai ..

Is that all your intelligence reply ? None ? No intelligence ?
my problem not able to make right forecast ? so tell me which forecast i made was wrong .. that sw gonna be a landmark ? ohh u did say sw NOT gonna be landmark !! we have sat tight and watched u failed in ur prediction .. those who have followed your posting knows ur prediction is far from perfect ..
now if u still dont know, some of sw units has indeed doubled in values .. haha asking of cos .. but as u always do, u take asking as the market price ..
why i didnt buy mf ? how do u know i didnt ? ur forecast again ? haha ..
mf was never compared to sw due to different launching time okay ..
it was zest and sw .. and i have no regrets owning sw because i m pretty sure the COCR and profit in absolute term is higher than zest ..
but can we talk something else other than sw ? that's not my only property .. or is it because that's the onli thing u can harp on ?

that's my argument .. i m no longer interested to talk bout sw .. cos i move on ..
as this thread belongs to mf .. so Pai, please amuse us with ur intelligence when u said TS is more investment viable than MF ..
or as usual u just said it with ur empty drum ?

am i not able to calculate or u not able to show us the numbers ? as i said, mf has just started vp, u need few months before the correct numbers can be plucked out .. otherwise everything said now is based on expectation .. i think now the smart one knows who is lying ..

as i put in my argument, if someone have the cash to spare, i would strongly recommend mf than ts as his investment portfolio ..
rental yield might not be much of difference but caps gain is surely expected to be higher than ts in coming future ..
unless Pai are so intelligent to show us the number, otherwise plz do ur own analysis ..

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Added on October 21, 2011, 1:19 pmactually even an property guru will not be able to give a commentary on the property/ area that he is not familiar of ..
but any investor has his own criteria to fulfill and prioritize .. obviously u can see the difference between me and Pai ..
maybe u can consult Pai on that property .. he seems to know everything .. but i doubt he has done much research, mostly his thoughts are based on hearsay onli .. just becareful

This post has been edited by zavier98: Oct 21 2011, 01:19 PM

This post has been edited by zavier98: Nov 11 2011, 11:07 PM

500k ? U must be kidding me. Zest is aiming at 550k, how can midfields sell below that.
Midfields is located nearer to KL, more lush landscape, look so much better than Zest.
haha ok i m kidding u onli.