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post Dec 4 2012, 12:58 PM

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Can someone pleade verify this ?I signed the spa. The lease will expire in 2085. But, I heard that the lease has been extended to 99 years. If that is the case why the spa spells expires in 2085 ?
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post Dec 6 2012, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(jumbogem @ Dec 6 2012, 02:03 PM)
you are definitely right,
the price can be simply stated by the agent or the owner as they wish,some even ridiculously offered 520k for the smallest unit with nirvana view .
and is depending on the owner's holding power and also the buyer's buying power as well.

if the owner can hold for long, perhaps they are able to wait for another 1 or 2 years.
but i believe there are quite a number of speculators around just like some forumers mentioned before, Block A has been handed over for quite sometimes but the occupied rate not more than 1/3.
they might be coming out the ideas of renting out those units if the owner unable to sell them,
but there are almost 300 units to be rented out, so is competitive too.

some agents will comes out with sort of gimmicks saying that after taking CF price will increases or after shop lots finished price will increases.
is it really so?we don't know.

we just know, if the owner does not have a holding power, he will even let his unit off even the selling price lower than his purchasing price.

just like what i encountered recently.
an owner insisting to sell his unit at 470k with pool view but one parking 6 months before.
after half a year later, he called me up personally asking 400k nego.
and my phone is blasted with agents calling me up to purchase Midfields
the price they offered are actually much lower than what they offered me 2 months before, to be exact some of them are 30-40k lower with better location and some with 2 car parks.

so taking CF might can be a bad day for most of the speculators.
as the price is stagnant and there will be hell lots of new launch condos offering tempting packages, such as DIBS, free spa and so on.
if you are not eagerly to get an unit to stays, is not encouraged you to buy subsale.

year 2013 will be definitely a bad year for everyone.
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I don't get what you mean by the price have been inflated. I am current staying at Midfileds. To say only 1/3 of the block A is occupied is an understatement. I am quite sure it is more than that. Not fully occupied ? yes. but to say only 1/3 is not acurate. At least my floor is fully occupied. If you say 400k and nego.. I please please pm me the number if you don't mind. 400k for a place like Midfields is good for own stay. I have friend who is looking for a place at Midfields. The rental might be low, for own stay it is to saying said " mana mahu cari " .... Take The Zeva and Puchong South for instant, it is selling at 400-430 sf which need to be completed in another 2 years. Location wise, Midfields has access to town center. Yes the surrounding is as good as Taman Desa. But it is rather hard to find a condo with this price tag with such a location. 5 min to Midvalley. 10 min to KLCC. 2 mins to Seremban highway and Mex. 3 mins to jalan tun razak heading KLCC. 3 mins to Best Raya highway. The rental is about RM1600. yeah it is a low. But again ( for own stay ) if you are renting a condo with such facility in Taman Desa it is about Rm2500. I have a friend renting at that price tag in Casa Desa. Yeah Taman Desa is better but is the Rm2500 in comparison to RM1600 is something to be considered. By the way DIBS is not something attractive if you are going for a 70%. If fact you should not take DIBS if you are going to take 70% loan. normally developer will give further discount if you are not taking the DIBS. And developer will assume that you are taking 90% loan to offer you the DIBS. Please PM me the contact number. I want it. 400K will be a steal in my opinion. Thanks.

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post Dec 6 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(jumbogem @ Dec 6 2012, 05:41 PM)
the selling price is quite depending from the satisfactory level of the owner.
if the owners enter the market at 220k and now they sell it with the 350k, they might be thinking that it is more than enough.
but most of the owners who greedy,they might be placing the selling price with 500k or even 550k to wait for those who are brainless enuf so they can pocket themselves with profits.
so as a buyer, you have to do some homework before you make any move or being influence by agents or owners.

400k is not steal, it is advisable to ask your friend to do some homeworks instead of being spoon feed.
iproperty is one of the easiest way, 410k and 420k can be easiliy to be found everywhere which larger built up.
i dont think those prices are firmed unless you are really poor in bargain.

regarding the rental,
total unit in MF is about 1000+/-.base on my assumption and observation,30% or maybe 60% are being occupied by genuine buyers or being tenanted.
what about the remaining units?
RM1600 is only the preference price from the owner, when the demand is lower than supply,
i dont think you can able to get for that amount.
and  location of Taman Desa is unbeatable.
east west link is definitely a nightmare for those drivers especially for those who working in PJ area .
not to say the poor accessibility of MF,surrounded by factories and foreign labors wander around that area during night time.
the wooden partition wall did hold me back from considering that place.
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I must say I disagree with you. Seller always want to sell at the higher price. But they are not stupid either. Who want to sell at 350k if the market are running at 450k ? I am current an owner of Musfield and I am staying here for 6 months already. The info I am giving here is not spoon fed info. Taman Desa is just 2 mins away from Misfield. The access is more or less the same. In fact it could be better depending in where you want to go. Taman Desa 2 main access in old klang road and eat west link which share the same accessibility as Midfield.
About the factories worker or the foreigner wondering around the area I duuno why you make such a big fuss. Midfield is hate Ang guarded. The security guard is doing quite good job I must say. 24 hours security guard at the lobby. They doesn't allow my friend to get into my block unless my friend called me up and pass the hp to the security guard to talk to me to double confirm his entry. If you feel like to walk around you can do so at the park on top of the car park or the newly made 1 acre park which is nice. By the rent is rm1600 or the preference price. My neighbour rent it at this price ok. The total unit is not 1000++. It is around 800 unit. If you want to know the exact number. Count the mail boxes. I count it. It is 780 units. 1 floor 8 units. 20 floors. 5 blocks. It is 20x8x5 = 800 units ok. Iproperty is not entirely realisable. Check the lowest price and try to call the agent , they will mostly tell you the lowest price was sold but they have other units which is still available . Check property wall. It is more accurate. At least some owner will post selling price there. Most of the time agents will like to sell it fast so they will try to push the price down. 430k and 400k commission is not much diffrent. It is the owners who want to push the price up. I am not sure where do you get the info. I have been here for 6 months. I have never experience any flood as claimed by you. Not even during heavy storm recently. Car park flooded or ponded ? Not all lah. Only a few car parks. Including mine. But that also depend on the direction of the wind when it rained. A few weeks ago a little bit of pounding at my car park which are at the edge of the building. But last week dry as usual even after heavy storm ( because wind blow from other side ). Bad luck lah my unit car park are at the edge. But others dry loor. If you don't think it is not a steal price please pass the agent number or the owner you mention to me. I myself is interested . Thank you


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QUOTE(Asali @ Dec 6 2012, 09:43 PM)
My friend let go two units (1074sf) at RM365K smile.gif
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Aiiyooooo .... I am not sure how accurate is this info. If your friend really sold it for 365k. Then your friend really make a fool of himself Liao.

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post Dec 7 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Dec 7 2012, 08:04 AM)
There is indeed serious flood at Midfields. Although I am not a resident, a friend who is renting at Midfields sent me some photos. The flood water is actually along the lower corridor at ground floor along the letterbox area and other low areas, quite bad actually, and around the vicinity of the main swimming pool. The swimming pool was closed several days due to maintenance as soil particles and mud flowed into it.

And as for your comment on the seller being a fool selling the unit at RM365k, that is between the seller and buyer. In other words, willing seller willing buyer. You would be surprised on the number of sales that recorded lower figures than "market" selling price as low profile sales are usually not announced publicly. Owners may just want to let go the unit to serious potential buyers to avoid the hassle of entertaining hordes of non-serious buyers, so they may settle at a lower than market price if deemed appropriate. Also, there are instances when the situation of the seller is left with no other choice but to release the unit for cash ie. pushed to the edge due to financial constraints, unable to cope with the loan payments etc. In this sense, the seller is not making a fool of himself but to get himself out of deeper trouble.

The low occupancy rate of Block A after obtaining CF for so long(earlier this year?) has indicated the low demand even though there may be owners throwing the price below RM400k. With the PR1MA project being announced yesterday, I expect the property scene especially the apartment/condo segment to be affected even more.
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I don't want to argue with you about the flood. If you are referring to " The swimming pool was closed several days due to maintenance as soil particles and mud flowed into it. " That is due to the unfinished work at Block B which cause the mud slide into the swimming pool. it is a one off incident. As I told you before .. and I am telling you again I have never seen any flood even during major heavy storm ( not even at the ground floor along the letter box area ). I do't why you keep on insisting there is a flood ? If you are YTL Land ( the developer ) do you think you want to get your reputation tarnished because there is a flood at the condominium that you have built ? maybe the photo you have seen was 8 months ago before I moved in. If that is the case I have nothing to say. By the way, you are not staying there, don't you think you are insulting me by implying that I am lying that there is no flood. I heard about the flood in the much previous post in this forum. But that is not the case now.
About the case of seller selling at 365k, I have nothing to say if he is financially constraint. But if he is not, then don't you think the agent bring him to Ho Lan on his cases ? After all I am not sure it is true or not. What if I tell you my friend bought another unit at 480K .. would you believe it ? What do you mean by low profile sale ? If there is a low profile sale you won't know it in this forum.
Low occupancy ? A quick check with the management, there are now 162 register residence for Block A1 & A2. How about the ones who haven't register with the management ? Block B1, B2, 2nd Swimming pool and the park are open, the environment are not much better for stay. Will it attract more people ? Only time can tell. I do agree that condo/apartment would be over supply in the coming years especially in year 2014 & 2015 with so many supply come into the market. The right condo/apt at the right place would still command a premium. I think Midfields deserve a premium. How do you compare PR1MA with Midfields ? We don't even know where and what product would be launced under PR1MA ? Enough said if you have any good unit which is below 400k please let me know. You could disagree with me. But I would much appreciate that if you could give me the agent number/owner number who want to sell below 400k. If you disagree with me just give me the number and I will give them a call. If I could get a deal done, big dinner on me ok. Thanks...


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post Dec 7 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Dec 7 2012, 01:11 PM)
Re. the flood at Midfields. It appears that you are having problems differentiating between insulting and revealing the truth. Most of the flood photos in Midfields are taken in November, and on one particular day on 27.11.12, there is a serious flood in Midfields that was reflected in what I wrote above. All the photos are on my phone on Whatsapp, and I am currently looking at them. I can post some of the photos here if you wish but that wouldn't serve me any purpose or interest but leave some parties unhappy instead. There will surely be some residents in Midfields who have witnessed this flood I believe.

As for your rebuttals on Midfields should command a certain premium, I have no comment on that as we are going in circles. Perhaps you should just do your own homework and find out for yourself whether you can get a unit at Midfields below RM400k instead of asking people around here since not everyone is interested in this development.
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Hmmmm if you insist there is flood then what can I say. I would like to know as well because I don't see it. I will appreciate very much if you can post the photo so I could launch a complaint to the management. I always did my homework my I just can't find any unit below 400k. If you have why don't you give it to me since you are not going to buy it. What do you have to loose by giving me the number ? I am staying here and I am happy with it.
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post Dec 7 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Dec 7 2012, 01:42 PM)
Are you really sure the management will be able to resolve the flood issue even if you lodge a complaint? I don't think so. I am familiar with this particular area as well as Bandar Sri Permaisuri just adjacent to Midfields. Whenever there is heavy downpour/flash floods, some roads will be flooded up to ankle level. Midfields are not built on high land, and whenever there is heavy downpour, coupled by poor drainage, flood will occur at some areas.

I would rather not post the photos here just because of your request as I would need to take the interest of others here into consideration, owners and/or agents. You can just ask around those who are staying in Midfields, and I am sure some would have known about this flood issue or have taken some photos themselves and already lodged a complaint to the management.

This flood issue is not easy to overcome as you are not looking at a design flaw of the structure or infrastructure. It's more on the drainage system as a whole, the time taken to divert storm water from the small drains to the big drains. Buildings on low land coupled by poor drainage will evidently be affected, those on higher land will be spared. Do you know anything about the SMART tunnel? That is built as a flood mitigation as during flash floods, there is insufficient time for the water to be drained out. This flood issue is on a macro level, not as easy as you think.

If you want to complain, I would suggest that you complain on the drainage system in the elevated car parks. I noticed there isnt' any scupper drains around the perimeter of the car parks which is usually a norm in this structure. Some pools of water will be collected after heavy rain, though it will not be as serious since the water will eventually evaporate when the sun is out.
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I am a civil engineer myself. I don't think that can't be solved if there is a flood ( which I still don't see it , and which you insisting it is.). I just call several agents but seems no one offer below 400k. Guess I don't have the luck to get the contact from you. By the way I would like to correct my statement about launching the complaint to the management. I would launch the comPlaint to the developer. If you could give me the photo ( if there is a flood ). It will be a big help.

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post Dec 7 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(jumbogem @ Dec 7 2012, 02:28 PM)
to be honest i cant really remember who are those that called me up and offer me that price as so far until now,
i get not less than 3 calls per weeks from agents asking me whether i am still interested in MF.

seriously i can assume that you are that kind of person who are really used to be spoon fed.

when i first spotted MF, i did do a lot of homework, fill up my weekends to make appointments with not more than 5 agents every week,
although after sometime i might be more familiar with MF surrounding than those agents,
but most of the agents will not reveal the actual price and units they got until you meet up with them.
so i did turn up myself every times tho i can predict what will those agents going to tell me next.

i even sneaked into the management office to ask the staffs there whether got any owner is willing to let go his/her unit.

so is time to get your ass off from the chair to do something instead of keep asking give me number,give me number, i will treat you a meal.
gosh. doh.gif

to be frank,if you need a fast deal, open up your cheque book, write down a figure of RM38,000,give it to the agents and tell them your max puchasing price is rm380,000.00 nett. i bet you can definitely get your desired unit.

as some of the speculators hard to resist the handsome profit they might gained when the transaction is successful.
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If you think we could not be friend by taking my meal offer, I don't mind to pay you the agent fee if you could get me the deal directly from the owner. Or you could co-broke with the agent. Of coure the seller shall deduct the agent fee to me. Is it relevant whether the information I get is spoon fed or not since I am a willing buyer below 400k. As i said before again and again, I am staying here at Midfield and I am willing to consider below 400k. If it is 350k ( In cash ) also I can consider. I will figure a way out to raise the cash. It is a honest offer. Just give me the agent number and I will say it is you who introduce and I will ask him to get u a cut of the commission if the deal is done. Win-win for you and me. of course the agent will not reveal the offer price to you. But if the deal already done I just don't know why they won't reveal the transacted price. let me tell you something. OCBC ( one of the conservative bank as far as I am concern for some of my application rejected by them ) values my unit at RM430k. If you thnk RM380K is not sweet enough then pass it to me lah. I am doing my homework here also trying to get a unit at RM380K as you said. I am not really into condo for investment for I scare of the over supply in 2014 or 2015. i just came back from signing the SPA for a landed property. But I will surely figure something out if it is really 380K with good view as you said. My hand is quite full already and I am too lazy to look further. Too bad you forget who called you.

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post Dec 7 2012, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:41 PM)
Are you an agent? You sure sound like one with your constant drivel which floods the entire space. As a tenant living there it is surprising you are not aware of the flooding. Here are some pictures I've taken since you've asked for it.

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I have about a dozen more photos which show other areas affected by the flood but guess the above will do.
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I am not an agent. Thanks for the photo. It looks serious and honestly speaking I am not aware of that. Guess I wasn't around on that fatefull day. I need to bring this issue to the developer. This is surely good thing for the potential buyer. Really appreciate it.
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post Jan 6 2013, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 6 2013, 01:40 PM)
Apart from the 2 issues raised by you, so far Midfields are quite okay since the location is not so bad.

But the flood issue is a worry and I was shocked to see the partition wall ( is tat plywood? ) instead of bricks wall used btw the rooms are totally ... off based on current asking price.
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Some people like brick wall/sand brick wall. Some people do not have issue with partition wall. If u check most of the ytl condo even the one at dentil using partition wall. They are pro and con of using it. I guess u know the con. The good thing about it is it will look straight and not wavy. For me. At first I am not happy with it. But after a while I find it not so bad and it looks straight. But that is me. Only portion of it is partition wall. Not all of them are. As for the flood, I heard that that is due to the drainage system which are suppose to be connected to the ahoy lot drain system before discharging into the main drain. Because of the ship lot drainage system not yet fully completed it cause the back flow causing the drain at midfield not working. Could someone confirm this. Yes the management can't do anything about the flood. But the management could bring this issue to the developer. I think YTL could do something about this. To say the midfield is a flood area I don't aggree with they. If midfield flood then the surrounding factory and shipley will be flood too. Even the shoplift under construction will be fully flooded for it is at lower ground then midfield . I still think it is the drainage system which need to be rectified. To say that couldn't not be solved is too extreme lah. It is just the matter people want to do it or not....
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post Jan 6 2013, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Jan 6 2013, 02:44 PM)
hardboard partition not good at all..not good sound proof...
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But it is just used as internal wall. I dun think the brick wall is sound proof as well. I dun want to go further that is very much subjunctive. People will assume I am an agent and promoting midfield.
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post Jan 6 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2013, 02:55 PM)
If the completed drainage of Block A-C is connected to the shop lot drainage before discharge into main drain, the drainage system is working already. Hence, I don't understand your "back flow" comment. Please elaborate. Back flow will only occur if there is something stuck in the drain, causing blockage. The fact that the flood water receded with time has shown that there isn't any blockage in the drain. The uncompleted shop lot drainage is the drains that run around the perimeter of the shop lots that are not completed yet, and these will not affect the existing drainage system. 

You think something can be done doesn't mean it can be done. Flood happens when the drainage system is unable to cope with large amount of rainwater during heavy downpour. During the same day of flood on Friday, I have witnessed several roads in Klang Valley flooded as well whereby vehicles have to choose to go through the flood water or make a U-turn to use an alternative road.
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What u mean is if the drainage system could not cope with the downpour then the us nothing could be done about it ? That us something I have never heard of as an civil engineer for the past 12 years. If the drained is clogged ten unclogged it lah apa susah. If the water receded that means a lot if thing other than no clogged drain. If the drainage system at midfield can't cope with the down pour then upgrade it lah. Why keep on saying things this is bad and can't be resolved ? I am staying here and I want it to be resolved. If some of the readers have done good idea please write it here so I may bring the idea to the developer even. Why keep on attacking the same issue which bring no benefit to anyone at all. If want to highlight the potential buyer pun I can't find any reason for that unless u yourself know the buyer personally otherwise what is the point ? Right? Bringing idea to solve this problem is much encouraging than rising the issue again and again. Yes the flood is inconvenience to some. But it is not like it is damaging the property or anything like that. It is definitely not the end of the world. Agein I want to say I am not an agent. I am just s resident of Midfields
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post Jan 7 2013, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2013, 03:44 PM)
Well, you must be not a very good engineer then. Are you registered with IEM?

You think by upgrading the drains the issue can be resolved? Have you been involved in design or you are at site level throughout your history as a civil engineer? Have you done any R&D design and are you familiar with ARI codes in the design? Sometimes even when following the codes in the design, that doesn't exclude the fact that floods won't happen. The design of new drains have to match with the existing drawings at the outlet in the RL and one can't just include a deep drain that is deeper than the existing main drain that it will be connected to. This is just one of the criteria in the design. During flash flood, the downstream water level will be unusually high, and the flow of water at the upstream will be affected which causes this flash floods.

As for saying things bad, it's not my intention but it's a fact. Why hide the real situation? If you can propose a solution to the developer yourself then good for you. IF you are staying there, just go to the site and survey the situation closely after a heavy rain and see why the water is clogged. You should then have an idea, whether it can be solved or not just by a matter of hacking away the existing drains and build deeper and wider drains.
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Reading the 1st line I am lazy to read the rest. I am an lousy engineer as u have said. That doesn't mean the problem can't be solved. There is no point of arguing here. Let see what would be done. If the prbloem remain the same then, YTL is an lousy developer. Or YTL should fire the design engineer for it's future project. By the way practicing engineer shall register with BEM not IEM.

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Dear Midfields Onwers :
I am an onwner of Midfields. Are you happy with the painting of the external wall of the building ? Personally I am not happy with the unpleasant faded/crack/patchy paints either on Block A1, A2, B1, B2 and Block C. Since it is still under the defect liability period I think the developer is responsible to take action to rectify the situation. If they need to repaint the whole building then they have to do it. After all we are not suppose to pay for such a lousy paint job. I believe that the you guys will agree with me on this issue. I have officially launch an complaint to the developer via the management office. If you think you deserve and rectification on this issue, I strongly suggest you to launch a complaint to the developer. Shall the issue be resolved I believe not only it will make you enjoy the environment more, but it will add more value to your property. With more complaints from the owners, the developer would look into this matter more seriously. The email address is midfields@yes.my ( Attn : Mr. Mohan ). I have attached several photos in my complaints, I suggest you guys do the same. Let's do it for betterment of the place we stay. Thank you

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post Jan 25 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(vipervr @ Jan 25 2013, 12:15 PM)
I agree with you, no replies for two mails that i sent. Can someone please PM me the management office phone number? Gotta give them a call.

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This is the number for Midfields 018 3030 877 u can get the number of the developer from them. I am also an owner. Please complaint about the external wall painting of the building which is not up to mark for all the blocks. Good luck
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post Feb 8 2013, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(kojack18 @ Feb 8 2013, 06:22 PM)
but i tink tat it block A right, ie. the orange building.

block b and c nt soo near 1 to HTC.
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Block a=green b = red c=orange. I stayed in midfield I know.
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post Mar 7 2013, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Mar 7 2013, 05:15 PM)
yes peeling too at some areas and most of it due to poor quality paint that you can see through to the cement....
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I have complainted to the management about the painting at common area for several weeks. But there is no reply or whatsoever. I guess we need more people to raise our voice. Please launch the complaint about the paint job at the common area. It is less than 2 years and the paint start to fade. Check the external building paint work then you will get what I mean. Please launch the complaint.
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QUOTE(shihowru @ Mar 13 2013, 04:42 PM)
renewed on 2009, but y his post is on 2012? hmmm.... blink.gif

QUOTE(cruger12345 @ Dec 4 2012, 12:58 PM)
Can someone pleade verify this ?I signed the spa. The lease will expire in 2085. But, I heard that the lease has been extended to 99 years. If that is the case why the spa spells expires in 2085 ?
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I sign the spa ( sub sale ) in 2011 b4 the vp on block a. So maybe the developer just got the extension last year 2012. If it is extended I am glad.
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post Mar 16 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(asiasoho @ Mar 16 2013, 03:15 AM)
im agree , beware of some agent play the price ..
even rent or subsale ..
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Just my personnel opinion which you don't have to agree. If I am the agent I will like to play the price down. Lower price easier to sell. A commission of 3% of 450k or 480k doesnt make much diffrent. So a bit lower price but could sell more and close the deal faster. Hence when someone said the agent play the price up in any property. I won't believe that. It is the owner want higher price not agent

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post Apr 7 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Ganny82 @ Apr 7 2013, 10:55 AM)
Hhmmm thought there is a centralized gas system provided? Thx
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There is. I am using it. From gas Malaysia. Just pay the bill like TNB bill no hassle at all.
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post Apr 7 2013, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(weixuan @ Apr 7 2013, 11:54 AM)
I moved in before gas malaysia was ready
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Same here. And I dun see any problem to change to using centralised gas. It is safer and convenience .

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