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ctlim78
post Jan 6 2013, 11:37 AM

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Yesterday visited the Block B2, is flooded everywhere.
Partition wall instead of brick/sand wall used in between rooms. A bit disappointed.
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:09 PM

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Ctlim78.. can u upload some photos of the flood..? Appreciate it..
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(soonyeh @ Jan 6 2013, 01:09 PM)
Ctlim78.. can u upload some photos of the flood..? Appreciate it..
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Since you mentioned you intend to forward the photos to the management, I presume you are a resident at Midfields? If you are, I am sure you will witness this flood everytime there is a heavy storm and can snap some photos yourself instead of asking others to post photos here. Also, I agree that there isn't anything the management can do about this flood issue.
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:18 PM

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During the last JMB meeting, was there a discussion to open up grocer shop, launderette, etc ? It'll be quite nice to have for residents.

Was the issue on Unifi and HD service addressed in the meeting as well?
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Jan 6 2013, 01:14 PM)
Since you mentioned you intend to forward the photos to the management, I presume you are a resident at Midfields? If you are, I am sure you will witness this flood everytime there is a heavy storm and can snap some photos yourself instead of asking others to post photos here. Also, I agree that there isn't anything the management can do about this flood issue.
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flood? really that bad? thought YTL is quite a reputable developer...
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Jan 6 2013, 01:21 PM)
flood? really that bad? thought YTL is quite a reputable developer...
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Any informed person will realize that there isn't any relation between a reputable developer and a development which is situated in a flood-prone area. Owners and agents use this "reputable developer" to market or sell a place, that is all. Gullible folks will fall to these tactics.

Yes, the flood is bad. A friend staying at Midfields had forwarded some photos to me as well showing the extent of the flood. On Friday night was bad. Yesterday night not as bad but still bad.

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post Jan 6 2013, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ Jan 6 2013, 01:25 PM)
Any informed person will realize that there isn't any relation between a reputable developer and a development which is situated in a flood-prone area. Owners and agents use this "reputable developer" to market or sell a place, that is all. Gullible folks will fall to these tactics.

Yes, the flood is bad. A friend staying at Midfields had forwarded some photos to me as well showing the extent of the flood. On Friday night was bad. Yesterday night not as bad but still bad.
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normally reputable developer will resolve the issue asap....so nobody complaint to developer for this? or developer no any response on this? mind to post some picture seems you have the pictures that ur friend forward to u
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:28 PM

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I have posted some photos a few weeks ago on the flood which happened last year. This time, I'm not going to post anymore. Actual owners in Midfields who witnessed these flood do not take any attempt to take pictures but rely on someone who did not stay there to post pictures. Funny right?


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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Jan 6 2013, 01:28 PM)
normally reputable developer will resolve the issue asap....so nobody complaint to developer for this? or developer no any response on this? mind to post some picture seems you have the pictures that ur friend forward to u
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Depends on what kind of problem. This flooding issue cannot be solved.

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post Jan 6 2013, 01:30 PM

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Midfields defo off from my preferred list.... The flood risk is too material beyond one's comfort
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(ctlim78 @ Jan 6 2013, 11:37 AM)
Yesterday visited the Block B2, is flooded everywhere.
Partition wall instead of brick/sand wall used in between rooms. A bit disappointed.
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Apart from the 2 issues raised by you, so far Midfields are quite okay since the location is not so bad.

But the flood issue is a worry and I was shocked to see the partition wall ( is tat plywood? ) instead of bricks wall used btw the rooms are totally ... off based on current asking price.




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post Jan 6 2013, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 6 2013, 01:40 PM)
Apart from the 2 issues raised by you, so far Midfields are quite okay since the location is not so bad.

But the flood issue is a worry and I was shocked to see the partition wall ( is tat plywood? ) instead of bricks wall used btw the rooms are totally ... off based on current asking price.
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seriously just use plywood partition wall between bedrooms? any buyers/owners can confirm this? if it's true, then this YTL is really doing bad job
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Jan 6 2013, 01:42 PM)
seriously just use plywood partition wall between bedrooms? any buyers/owners can confirm this?  if it's true, then this YTL is really doing bad job
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I viewed one of the unit before for just 10 minutes ( actually my fren viewed it and I drop by ) and touch the wall, surprised it was like plywood or hard board, then I just leave and yumcha with my fren, who didn't notice it and only found it after confirm with the agent.

I not sure whether the wall is only applicable for one type only / the whole units or whole Midfield.

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post Jan 6 2013, 01:55 PM

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Dwango and volkswagen... pls ignore my post.. any others mind to share some photos~~
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post Jan 6 2013, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 6 2013, 01:40 PM)
Apart from the 2 issues raised by you, so far Midfields are quite okay since the location is not so bad.

But the flood issue is a worry and I was shocked to see the partition wall ( is tat plywood? ) instead of bricks wall used btw the rooms are totally ... off based on current asking price.
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Some people like brick wall/sand brick wall. Some people do not have issue with partition wall. If u check most of the ytl condo even the one at dentil using partition wall. They are pro and con of using it. I guess u know the con. The good thing about it is it will look straight and not wavy. For me. At first I am not happy with it. But after a while I find it not so bad and it looks straight. But that is me. Only portion of it is partition wall. Not all of them are. As for the flood, I heard that that is due to the drainage system which are suppose to be connected to the ahoy lot drain system before discharging into the main drain. Because of the ship lot drainage system not yet fully completed it cause the back flow causing the drain at midfield not working. Could someone confirm this. Yes the management can't do anything about the flood. But the management could bring this issue to the developer. I think YTL could do something about this. To say the midfield is a flood area I don't aggree with they. If midfield flood then the surrounding factory and shipley will be flood too. Even the shoplift under construction will be fully flooded for it is at lower ground then midfield . I still think it is the drainage system which need to be rectified. To say that couldn't not be solved is too extreme lah. It is just the matter people want to do it or not....
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QUOTE(cruger12345 @ Jan 6 2013, 02:16 PM)
Some people like brick wall/sand brick wall. Some people do not have issue with partition wall. If u check most of the ytl condo even the one at dentil using partition wall. They are pro and con of using it. I guess u know the con. The good thing about it is it will look straight and not wavy. For me. At first I am not happy with it. But after a while I find it not so bad and it looks straight. But that is me. Only portion of it is partition wall. Not all of them are. As for the flood, I heard that that is due to the drainage system which are suppose to be connected to the ahoy lot drain system before discharging into the main drain. Because of the ship lot drainage system not yet fully completed it cause the back flow causing the drain at midfield not working. Could someone confirm this. Yes the management can't do anything about the flood. But the management could bring this issue to the developer. I think YTL could do something about this. To say the midfield is a flood area I don't aggree with they. If midfield flood then the surrounding factory and shipley will be flood too. Even the shoplift under construction will be fully flooded for it is at lower ground then midfield . I still think it is the drainage system which need to be rectified. To say that couldn't not be solved is too extreme lah. It is just the matter people want to do it or not....
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hardboard partition not good at all..not good sound proof...
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Jan 6 2013, 02:44 PM)
hardboard partition not good at all..not good sound proof...
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But it is just used as internal wall. I dun think the brick wall is sound proof as well. I dun want to go further that is very much subjunctive. People will assume I am an agent and promoting midfield.
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QUOTE(cruger12345 @ Jan 6 2013, 02:16 PM)
As for the flood, I heard that that is due to the drainage system which are suppose to be connected to the ahoy lot drain system before discharging into the main drain. Because of the ship lot drainage system not yet fully completed it cause the back flow causing the drain at midfield not working. Could someone confirm this. Yes the management can't do anything about the flood. But the management could bring this issue to the developer. I think YTL could do something about this. To say the midfield is a flood area I don't aggree with they. If midfield flood then the surrounding factory and shipley will be flood too. Even the shoplift under construction will be fully flooded for it is at lower ground then midfield . I still think it is the drainage system which need to be rectified. To say that couldn't not be solved is too extreme lah. It is just the matter people want to do it or not....
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If the completed drainage of Block A-C is connected to the shop lot drainage before discharge into main drain, the drainage system is working already. Hence, I don't understand your "back flow" comment. Please elaborate. Back flow will only occur if there is something stuck in the drain, causing blockage. The fact that the flood water receded with time has shown that there isn't any blockage in the drain. The uncompleted shop lot drainage is the drains that run around the perimeter of the shop lots that are not completed yet, and these will not affect the existing drainage system.

You think something can be done doesn't mean it can be done. Flood happens when the drainage system is unable to cope with large amount of rainwater during heavy downpour. During the same day of flood on Friday, I have witnessed several roads in Klang Valley flooded as well whereby vehicles have to choose to go through the flood water or make a U-turn to use an alternative road.
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post Jan 6 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 6 2013, 02:55 PM)
If the completed drainage of Block A-C is connected to the shop lot drainage before discharge into main drain, the drainage system is working already. Hence, I don't understand your "back flow" comment. Please elaborate. Back flow will only occur if there is something stuck in the drain, causing blockage. The fact that the flood water receded with time has shown that there isn't any blockage in the drain. The uncompleted shop lot drainage is the drains that run around the perimeter of the shop lots that are not completed yet, and these will not affect the existing drainage system. 

You think something can be done doesn't mean it can be done. Flood happens when the drainage system is unable to cope with large amount of rainwater during heavy downpour. During the same day of flood on Friday, I have witnessed several roads in Klang Valley flooded as well whereby vehicles have to choose to go through the flood water or make a U-turn to use an alternative road.
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What u mean is if the drainage system could not cope with the downpour then the us nothing could be done about it ? That us something I have never heard of as an civil engineer for the past 12 years. If the drained is clogged ten unclogged it lah apa susah. If the water receded that means a lot if thing other than no clogged drain. If the drainage system at midfield can't cope with the down pour then upgrade it lah. Why keep on saying things this is bad and can't be resolved ? I am staying here and I want it to be resolved. If some of the readers have done good idea please write it here so I may bring the idea to the developer even. Why keep on attacking the same issue which bring no benefit to anyone at all. If want to highlight the potential buyer pun I can't find any reason for that unless u yourself know the buyer personally otherwise what is the point ? Right? Bringing idea to solve this problem is much encouraging than rising the issue again and again. Yes the flood is inconvenience to some. But it is not like it is damaging the property or anything like that. It is definitely not the end of the world. Agein I want to say I am not an agent. I am just s resident of Midfields
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QUOTE(cruger12345 @ Jan 6 2013, 03:32 PM)
What u mean is if the drainage system could not cope with the downpour then the us nothing could be done about it ? That us something I have never heard of as an civil engineer for the past 12 years.  If the drained is clogged ten unclogged it lah apa susah. If the water receded that means a lot if thing other than no clogged drain. If the drainage system at midfield can't cope with the down pour then upgrade it lah. Why keep on saying things this is bad and can't be resolved ? I am staying here and I want it to be resolved. If some of the readers have done good idea please write it here so I may bring the idea to the developer even. Why keep on attacking the same issue which bring no benefit to anyone at all. If want to highlight the potential buyer pun I can't find any reason for that unless u yourself know the buyer personally otherwise what is the point ? Right? Bringing idea to solve this problem is much encouraging than rising the issue again and again. Yes the flood is inconvenience to some. But it is not like it is damaging the property or anything like that. It is definitely not the end of the world. Agein I want to say I am not an agent. I am just s resident of Midfields
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Well, you must be not a very good engineer then. Are you registered with IEM?

You think by upgrading the drains the issue can be resolved? Have you been involved in design or you are at site level throughout your history as a civil engineer? Have you done any R&D design and are you familiar with ARI codes in the design? Sometimes even when following the codes in the design, that doesn't exclude the fact that floods won't happen. The design of new drains have to match with the existing drawings at the outlet in the RL and one can't just include a deep drain that is deeper than the existing main drain that it will be connected to. This is just one of the criteria in the design. During flash flood, the downstream water level will be unusually high, and the flow of water at the upstream will be affected which causes this flash floods.

As for saying things bad, it's not my intention but it's a fact. Why hide the real situation? If you can propose a solution to the developer yourself then good for you. IF you are staying there, just go to the site and survey the situation closely after a heavy rain and see why the water is clogged. You should then have an idea, whether it can be solved or not just by a matter of hacking away the existing drains and build deeper and wider drains.


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QUOTE(cruger12345 @ Jan 6 2013, 02:16 PM)
Some people like brick wall/sand brick wall. Some people do not have issue with partition wall. If u check most of the ytl condo even the one at dentil using partition wall. They are pro and con of using it. I guess u know the con. The good thing about it is it will look straight and not wavy. For me. At first I am not happy with it. But after a while I find it not so bad and it looks straight. But that is me. Only portion of it is partition wall. Not all of them are. As for the flood, I heard that that is due to the drainage system which are suppose to be connected to the ahoy lot drain system before discharging into the main drain. Because of the ship lot drainage system not yet fully completed it cause the back flow causing the drain at midfield not working. Could someone confirm this. Yes the management can't do anything about the flood. But the management could bring this issue to the developer. I think YTL could do something about this. To say the midfield is a flood area I don't aggree with they. If midfield flood then the surrounding factory and shipley will be flood too. Even the shoplift under construction will be fully flooded for it is at lower ground then midfield . I still think it is the drainage system which need to be rectified. To say that couldn't not be solved is too extreme lah. It is just the matter people want to do it or not....
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you not an Agent? or YTL fans investor?

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