QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Dec 17 2009, 08:03 PM)
Your concept is correct. The website showed measured the Quark AA with NiMH though (350ma on max).
The Quark 123 and AA has the same head, if run on Li-ION 16340 and 14500 it will eat 700mA at Max.. so the output should be the same. Buttttt.....
Selfbuilt's review, showed that the 123 and AA has slight difference output in the lightbox.
That little -3 difference gave 10mins+ more runtime
Or perhaps, damon was right.
Size does matter. 
Your other-half worried you going into the jungle? or take up family time
Yeap, i'll get to it later.
There's a new Battery & Charger section @ Post #3.
Errr, I think the specification of the output of Quark 123 is same with Quark AA^2 by the specification, but Quark AA is different. Anyway all these does not mean they are the same driver circuit.
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Quark 123
Power: One CR123A Battery (0.9V~4.2V)
Output: Maximum - 170 lumens; Moonlight - 0.2 lumens
Runtime: Maximum - 0.8 hours; Moonlight - 15 days
http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cP...roducts_id=1667Quark AA^2
Power: Two AA Batteries (0.9V~4.2V total)
Output: Maximum - 170 lumens; Moonlight - 0.2 lumens
Runtime: Maximum - 1.3 hours; Moonlight - 30 days
http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cP...roducts_id=1671Quark AA
Power: One AA Battery (0.9V~4.2V)
Output: Maximum - 90 lumens; Moonlight - 0.2 lumens
Runtime: Maximum - 1.2 hours; Moonlight - 10 days
http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cP...roducts_id=1670Lets assume they are same driver circuit, but the selfbuilt review does not state the capacity of the RCR123 , it just say AW RCR Black Label, vs the AA is 14500 750mAH, so I think we are comparing an apple with orange.
Yes, size or the volume of the cell does matter, of course, because bigger volume of the cell does transform into bigger capacity in mAH. So a 18650 have 2600mAH, but a 16340 will not.
A simple math will see that 14500 will have bigger volume than 16340, hence it will have more capacity mAH rating.
So a 14500 750mAH will have same run time with 16340 750mAH, but in the reviews, it never state the AW RCR 123's capacity, I guess it is a typical 500-650mAH cell.
So, it is right that AA size flashlight that can take 14500 will have better runtime overall compare with 123 size flashlight taking a 16340, provided using a higher capacity cell in the 14500. AA size 14500 would have more room/volume for lithium chemistry. But on primary, typical 1.5V AA Alkaline would have less power than a 3V Lithium CR123.
So it is confusing, haha, use the capacity rating mAH to gauge the runtime (on same head/flashlight) will never be wrong , if the voltage is same, if not, use the wattage (mAH x Voltage) to gauge the runtime as I sated before.
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RCR123 3.7V x 750mAH = 2.775W
14400 3.7V x 750mAH = 2.775W Should be same, unless
1.2V x 2000mAH = 2.4 W
so a AA NiMH would have less juice than the RCR123 at 750mAH.
damonIBS (haha)
QUOTE(damonlbs @ Dec 17 2009, 04:32 PM)
i will b using 14500 li-on for my RRT-0
coz
16340 - 16x34=544
14500 - 14x50=700
bigger li-on battery more power! longer runtime!
Correct, but a 14500 can have a 500mAH whilst a 16340 can be a 650mAH, and vice versa, if the brand, manufacturer , chemistry, model is different. You are right on the 14500 has more room to fill the chemistry, hence more power. BTW, a 16340 LifePO4 only has about 350mAH, wakakaka, which I am using them alot. It is safer (will not explode) with the trade off of the density of energy is lower than li-on.
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in that case can u make sense of the data here on the nitecore EX10 & D10?
14500 and 16340
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=202436You idea volume does play a rule as explain above, volume => capacity, of course the most accurate is the wattage as mentioned above.
BTW nitecore EX10 & D10 is same head?? I don't own them. But even so, the review stated using AW RCR123 Black Label, and 14500 750mAH, so both are different capacity I can say.
But a 750mAH RCR123 and 750mAH 14500 (same voltage and Chemistry) would have same runtime on same circuit/emitter, this one pretty sure, haha.
Because power cannot be created or destroy, only convert to another form. BTW, just want to share, like there are ppl selling a device claim can save on power usage in your house, and shows you a claim meter of the current draw lower drastically once the device (capacitor) turned on , this is totally a bluff , because the rule of power never change, P=Wattage = Current x Voltage.
They shows you the Current, but not the voltage. Actually it is not DC, so it is more complex, the power factor comes into play, the device fix the power factor, hence you get a lower current reading, but the true reading, and so you repair the voltage (higher). Hence you are helping the TNB to charge you correctly. Without the device, the power factor is out / altered, so the current looks higher, but TNB meter is Power Meter (wattage), so it will not record the correct unit you use, once you install the device, hehe, TNB will happy to charge you the real unit. (The Ugly truth, sorry if anyone selling this
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To all, I may be wrong, if there are pls correct me.
Added on December 18, 2009, 3:55 amQUOTE(pseudoblue @ Dec 17 2009, 04:28 PM)
Oii, don't call me president ok
Or I'll start collecting taxes
Anyway, it's a good idea, I'll compile some data here and from external later. There's overloaded info of batteries type and usage online and in CPF
And dunno where to begin...
Sir Yes sir, Mr President, whatever you said.
And Mr President, may be add also the mAH also,haha
This post has been edited by susuman: Dec 18 2009, 04:02 AM 
Dec 7 2009, 10:10 PM, updated 16y ago
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......perhaps some other G5 owner here would be willing to do it for us ? 
so how? still want me to become a dealer ? 
>.<
It also has very small parisitic drain (0.033mA), which is not too bad. 
It's flexible and more categories can be added. This format will be brought forward into V4 next time.
and very ex
but i have to check and make sure there's no missing items since the items was opened for customs inspection....
For sure it beats the G5.
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