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LightJunk
post Jan 13 2010, 11:33 AM

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pseudoblue, alantch...thank you. My first, which still existed was the A2 Aviator. My real first was a Maglite 3D using original bulb. It was stolen at work.

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post Jan 13 2010, 12:44 PM

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Here is the official introduction to my current collection together with specs.

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From left to right (Rear)

1. FM 2C body, Surefire M2-BK head & Moddoo Triple R2 4-18V drop in runs by 2 AW IMR26500
2. FM 1C body, Surefire M2-BK head & Nailbender's SST-50 3 level 3-6V drop in runs by 1 AW IMR26500
3. Surefire M6 Scalloped Bezel (LF IMR-3T & LF IMR-M6 lamps, mdocod 2X18650 & 3X17670 battery holders)
4. Surefire M6 CB (MN20, MN21 & MB20 battery holder) (FM bi pin, WA1111 & WA1185 bulbs on the way)
5. Dual bored 2P 18650 Mag 1.25D host & SST-90 DD with d2flex runs by 2 AW IMR18650

From left to right (Front)

1. Fenix TK10 XR-E Q5
2. Nitecore Extreme R2 - my EDC
3. Surefire A2-HA-WH - my first Surefire
4. Surefire 6P bored to fit 18650 cell & Nailbender's Diamond Dragon drop in
5. Mini Mag - stock

Finally at the front most

Digi Camo Mag 3D Triple P7 DSVNI using 4 AW IMR26500 with Der Witchel P7 driver 4-20V

Almost forget, the rear most

Pelican Case 1400

LightJunk biggrin.gif


Added on January 13, 2010, 2:57 pm
QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 13 2010, 12:10 PM)
Lightjunk
Wow...Maglite Digital Camo..did u source that locally? DigiCamo and Copper are quite hard to find, copper is even harder...any chance i can get you to send me a Digi camo if its local source?smile.gif

Don't know if this is something new to you guys, but i charged 2 x RCR123 and ended up with 1 charged to 4.3v and the other 4.2v, checked it on a multimeter.

Poped it in the flashlight and after a few minutes ran it back on the multimeter and both now run at 3.9v, later did another reading and both read 3.7 on the dot. Seem like the V equalize after running...

I thought the 4.3v would have extra juice than the 4.2v coz it has more V...thats sth new to me...
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Hi,

I got mine from here. PM him for your request. Reasonable price too.

RCR123 off the charger will give you between 4.2 to 4.3V range. Once used, it will drop to 3.7. You have both at 3.7V. That means your batteries are good. Maybe battery sifoo can elaborate further. Hope this helps.

Cheers,
LightJunk

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post Jan 13 2010, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Jan 13 2010, 03:06 PM)
LightJunk,
I think you should use this,

FM 1C body, Surefire M2-BK head & Nailbender's SST-50 3 level 3-6V drop in runs by 1 AW IMR26500

as your EDC. smile.gif
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That's the alternative to my Nitecore. I carry both in the bag but Nitecore will always be primary. Good throw for a small light.


Added on January 13, 2010, 3:19 pm
QUOTE(susuman @ Jan 13 2010, 03:11 PM)
Hi guys, not an expert, just like to share what I know.

Li-on battery should not charge above 4.2V, even if 0.5V will cause the life cycle of the battery to be shorten. (LiFePO4 does not have very big effect if 0.5V) If overheat syndrome present, it could be a dangerous sign before it exploded.

So, make sure your multimeter is accurate, if yes, then you have a charger that not very accurate. Does your battery is a protected type? This mean the protection circuit does not work very well, should cut charging before 2.5V. Because over charge may cause the battery to over heat.

Li-on working voltage is 3.7V, meaning when you run your flashlight, it will pulled down to 3.7V working voltage, but when you off the flashlight, it will rebound to above 3.7V (the resting voltage).

Generally when your battery resting voltage reach 3.7V, it means the battery is low in charge, should charge it. But during the usage of battery, it can go as low as 2.75V before the battery run out of charge.

I also notice many protected cell has high rate of self discharge due to the protection circuit working around the clock, even you do not put them in the flashlight.

Personally, I prefer to use LiFePO4 instead of Li-on, because it has less prone to the over charge/discharge, but it has about half the capacity of li-on

The KISS (keep it simple and stupid)
Li-on Battery should never charge to above 4.2V
The working/nominal voltage is 3.7 or 3.6 means then voltage when its under load (using it)
Resting voltage 3.7 or below means it need charging.
3.7-4.2V roughly shows the capacity of charge from 0% to 100%
Run the battery below 2.75V or charge it above the 4.2V will damage the battery. (If you are using protected cell, it should prevent this from happen)
Use a accurate multimeter if you use it for li-on measurement, most of the time you need to calibrate the multimeter. I calibrate mine myself.

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Well put. Thanks.

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post Jan 13 2010, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 13 2010, 05:25 PM)
Lightjunk this picture is for you, finally able to upload the maglite cap mod
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metalmania,

I cannot see the picture. Maybe can upload again.

Thanks,
LightJunk


Added on January 13, 2010, 7:35 pm
QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jan 13 2010, 04:12 PM)
LightJunk

beamshot plz notworthy.gif
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The Mag 3D Triple P7? I'll try.


Added on January 13, 2010, 7:36 pm
QUOTE(mikevelarde @ Jan 13 2010, 04:24 PM)
LightJunk:

Nice collection!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Thanks Manny.


Added on January 13, 2010, 7:44 pm
QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 13 2010, 07:32 PM)
deviate from topic a little..i should be using special bulb for him/her ( dont know the sex even after living for 17 years ) but i just use regular bulb, as long as it has heat for digestion and to keep warm..i actually got it for free after helping the tawke sell off a dog..it was the size of a 50cent back then..actually the name Flash is not from flashlight, but name was given for it speed...very fast for a turtle  laugh.gif

The tawke told me of one gentleman offering RM3K for a turtle that size ( about the size of a plate ) i was thinking of Triple SSC P7 or even a Surefire.. biggrin.gif
Back to lights...like Lightjunk i have a few stuff heading my way and parts for Tri P7, i really need this light and hopefully a cut down Maglite from wquiles. Would love to own one of his Mag 1D bore to 4 X AA...so many possibilities.. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=239209
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Sell your turtle and get the M6 & Triple P7 KT4. Poor turtle. Both needs feeding though...stuff that turtle eats & batteries.

Tri P7 on the way....welcome to the Tri P7 club. You'll be amazed at the output.




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post Jan 13 2010, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 13 2010, 07:50 PM)
i see you have a 1D Mag from wquiles....this is the picture..there is a version 2 using less parts, just a note the inside of Maglite tail cap is coated, not conductive..need sanding to make it conduct..

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the spring sits deeper inside the cap and the 4 legs complete the Neg- contact at the rim of the cap where the ori spring sits...why 4 legs i hear you ask! 4 is just enough to feed my paranoia... unsure.gif

Please excuse my soldering skills this is just the 1st version prototype..
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shhh...

Thanks for the pict. Nice mod on that tail cap spring thumbup.gif . On mine, it needs an effort to screw the tail cap completely down even with the KD golden shorty spring. Maybe I need to cut it shorter. Or leave it that way to get less resistance.

LightJunk
post Jan 13 2010, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 13 2010, 08:25 PM)
actually the tail cap spring does more than just that...if its to soft the battery will loose its contact from the top spring, test it by turning it on and taping the tail cap on palm..if its firm it shouldn't blink...this is particularly important on halogen lamps.

i experienced this on my bike lamps as they flicker when i hit a bump..

Springs shouldn't be to firm as too much pressure on the batts can ruin the top and bottom..i have proof of spring effect on battery +/- contacts.
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The problem with mine is that I am using 4 flat top AW IMR26500 cells. I need three 5 cent coins (yes, there is some use to it) for them to make contact. I need a slightly tough spring for positive contact.

You're right. I spoiled 1 of my batteries insulator because of the original Mag spring which I've cut/mod.

LightJunk
post Jan 13 2010, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Zen|th @ Jan 13 2010, 08:50 PM)
Hello fellow flashaholics,

As per philightsophy, my LF P7 should be arriving tomorrow!! Finally after 3 months of waiting... Tick tock tick tock...
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Hi Zen|th & metalmania,

Congrats on the LF P7. That thing is really rare nowadays. Would love to see some pictures and beam shot of it.

Thanks.
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post Jan 13 2010, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 13 2010, 08:57 PM)
ohhh....i have 2 solutions for you..first magnets on the + of the first cell, 2-solder a the + springs so that it bulges a little but this means taking everything apart..i can make contact with my AW 18650 with the solder trick.
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The 18650 has 3 dimples at the negative side. So it's ok unlike the 26500. Actually the three 5 cent coins are in between those cells. Just enough to cover the cavity on the positive side of the cell. It's being held there by the battery insulator.


Added on January 13, 2010, 9:05 pm
QUOTE(Zen|th @ Jan 13 2010, 08:59 PM)
Beamshots I can give... But the iso and the shutter speed thingi on the camera I don even have a clue on that...

I only know how to 'click' and capture the beamshot.. haha
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So do I biggrin.gif . I just know the flash and the capture only.

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post Jan 13 2010, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 13 2010, 09:06 PM)
A bit lost here..you mean to say the battery don't make contact to each other when stacked?
Yup. Same goes for my FM 2C host. Some say(in CPF) you will need a strong spring to make them contact but I've tried and it doesn't work.

Have a look here. Read the Special notes.

You will see the positive is flat inside the insulator. That's where the coin goes in. The negative side is flat too just like any ordinary battery.

It works for me.


Added on January 13, 2010, 9:22 pm
QUOTE(Zen|th @ Jan 13 2010, 09:13 PM)
Haha can.. I can give you 40 cents.. Btw its not an Ultrafire my friend,
its a Surefire.. Don la call it an Ultrafire...  sad.gif
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ROTFL

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post Jan 13 2010, 09:35 PM

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P7 direct drive. Heat sink & emitter are here already.

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post Jan 13 2010, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Zen|th @ Jan 13 2010, 09:52 PM)
How much am I looking at for a set up like tat?
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Like mine:

Mag 3D - RM140
P7 LED (3) - $26X3 = $78
Der Witchel Tri P7 kit (Single Mode 100%) - EU45
Batteries 4 AW IMR26500 - $15X4 = $60
Wires, epoxy & thermal grease - $60(approx)

Roughly around RM650 - 800 inclusive of shipping.

That is excluding what I did. I mod the switch & did the soldering myself. I also source my own battery sleeve. Modders at CPF charge you for these by the hour ie. $40/hour.

But it was satisfying for me. My first Mag P7 mod.

This post has been edited by LightJunk: Jan 13 2010, 10:26 PM
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post Jan 14 2010, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 14 2010, 10:44 AM)
OIC, i was just wondering, i know a many of them have the same design and the lumens promised are never below par, but rarely the promise is kept. I just like the design.

This arrived at 11am today...It's a Seraph P7 M Series Turbo Head powering it with 3x3.7 with tube extension...good news is its the parts used are the same size as Maglite, lens are 52mm, the reflector is one i've seen used on maglite..i will do a little exchange try fit ti the maglite when i get home...nice

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The reflector is very much like Kaidomain's....which is good, i can try different reflector..this light is a flooder...i have to wait till night to post beam shots...

I will edit this post with more full review later tonight..so watch for it.. rolleyes.gif
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Nice head. Can't wait for beam shot tonight. What body are you using? Looks like it's going to give floody beam. The reflector looks more like MOP. Anyway nice find regarding that Maglite. thumbup.gif

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post Jan 14 2010, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Jan 14 2010, 09:14 PM)
Oh, oh, oh.  I just received an A2, put in 2 batteries, played with it for a while, then hand ichy opened the head. The pill came out, dropped onto the floow and the bulb broke.  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
What should I do??  rclxub.gif
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I think no choice, have to get one from Lumens Factory, USD19++  moneyflies.gif  moneyflies.gif  moneyflies.gif
Any other ideas? CAn mod or not?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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jwjy...I think I got a spare original MA02 . Interested?

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post Jan 14 2010, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 14 2010, 08:37 PM)
Thanks LJ...just before leaving i took a few photos of the two lights i take riding..i have no idea the purpose of the bean shot i just took what ever makes sense, i guess its just for comparison...don't know if i did it properly..anyway have a look

[attachmentid=1399123]

Picture shot at 1 meter from wall 1 meter from the floor..i can't pull back any further coz the flood will be to big for the viewfinder about another meter above the LF flood is the ceiling.

Remember this is nothing like what light would behave i the real world. Painted plaster wall is a good flat surface to bounce light. In the jungle or real world dust on leaves and layered background simple absorbers light..most natural things are matte and dull making it harder for light to bounce off.

I will update more soon. Beam shot against real objects to give better sense of the scale of the flood and throw.

Thats Ultrafire yaaa not Surefire tongue.gif
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Nice beam shot. I remember somewhere in CPF mentioning the LF P7 is floody as compared to MN21 bulbs. Outdoor shot will speak louder.
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post Jan 15 2010, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 14 2010, 10:55 PM)

LJ - the Tri Maglite is floody right?


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I forgot how the beam looks like but it should be the same as the one in CPF. Floody but very bright.

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post Jan 15 2010, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Jan 14 2010, 11:17 PM)
Yes, then I don't have to buy from Lumens Factory.  nod.gif  I'm going back to kuching tomorrow. Maybe we can meet? Bring along a few flashlights?

I would like to feel the following big toys,  rclxms.gif

2. FM 1C body, Surefire M2-BK head & Nailbender's SST-50 3 level 3-6V drop in runs by 1 AW IMR26500
3. Surefire M6 Scalloped Bezel (LF IMR-3T & LF IMR-M6 lamps, mdocod 2X18650 & 3X17670 battery holders)
5. Dual bored 2P 18650 Mag 1.25D host & SST-90 DD with d2flex runs by 2 AW IMR18650
4. Surefire 6P bored to fit 18650 cell & Nailbender's Diamond Dragon drop in
Digi Camo Mag 3D Triple P7 DSVNI using 4 AW IMR26500 with Der Witchel P7 driver 4-20V

I will also bring along a few small and big lights? These are some of my small lights,
[attachmentid=1399393]
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Confirm, I got 1 unopened sealed MA02. I'll be available only in the evening. Have to travel to K.L. in the morning and back in the evening. Yes, we can meet. I'll bring the lights you mentioned above. Which jungle you want to test the lights? Just kidding... biggrin.gif . Call me. Check PM.
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post Jan 15 2010, 12:27 AM

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metalmania,

Me & jwjy will check out how the Mag 3D Tri P7 beam will look like in the real world tomorrow...hehehe..right jwjy?
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post Jan 15 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(alantch @ Jan 15 2010, 08:09 AM)
Some new toys came in for me  biggrin.gif  rclxm9.gif More to follow soon.

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Two has been modded. Can anyone tell which and what?
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wow..nice
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post Jan 16 2010, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(metalmania @ Jan 16 2010, 01:03 AM)
Hi guys, finally had time to do some beam shots, though i'm not please with the result specially when the local enforcers gave a quick siren...seem like the locals are quite done looking a the sky today, with eclipse and all...  sweat.gif so i took a quick few shots before they could come back..

I did have time to ream the smooth Maglite reflector to fit the LF P7 , though i really wanted to take bean shot with those too...the Mag lens and reflector can only be held tightly by the Mag bezel because the reflector is thinner at the rim and the lens are thinner too..

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..and difference from Ori reflector ( Right )& Smooth Mag reflector ( Left )...

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Beam shots..no detail on ISO, shutter and aperture...quite a scare when my eyes where staring at the sky and jumped by cops.. biggrin.gif

I call this picture " I SHOT THE SHERIFF "

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Sorry guys i was set to take more..but, well you know why...
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Thanks for the beam shot. I like the original reflector's beam.

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post Jan 17 2010, 03:51 AM

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Jan 16 2010, 09:17 PM)
2 photos for sharing.
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Most of the big lights belongs to LightJunk  flex.gif  , the small lights belongs to me.   notworthy.gif
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The M6 are great, well made, looks and feels quality, but I think the M@gs are more interesting especially when you can twist the head.  rclxm9.gif
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jwyj have some nice collections too. He got a lot of pills. Each light got it's own batteries. Well prepared.


Added on January 17, 2010, 4:01 am
QUOTE(alantch @ Jan 16 2010, 11:06 PM)
If not mistaken LightJunk's the one wearing the red shirt.
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Good guess. How you know?


Added on January 17, 2010, 4:05 am
QUOTE(jwyj @ Jan 16 2010, 06:55 PM)
Thanks, I did look at this but I think he don't make it anymore. But the good news is I just had an almost 3 hours "gathering" with LightJunk. Just the 2 of us,  nod.gif  but enjoyed talking to each other. Most importantly, he gave me his spare MA02 bulb.  rclxms.gif 
We did take a few photos of our lights. Will post photos later.
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I got a M2 Xeno head and a 6P extension instead. Nice guy.

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