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 HTC Desire, Officially Launched!

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post Apr 19 2010, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(zackloy @ Apr 19 2010, 08:55 AM)
Sounds good but what's the process for SIRIM approval? Should be quite a hassle me thinks.
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Apparently quite a long proccess

- If the package goes to POS Malaysia, even with item marked as GIFT. Kastam/POS can open the package.

- If the package contains a phone, you'll get a call & after 1 to 2 days you'll get a letter.

- You are expected to go to SIRIM (Block 9) in Shah Alam to get an AP permit with the letter from POS. You will fill 2 forms and enter market value for the phone. AP permit is RM250 and for personal or sample items only. You can bring up to 3 units and not more.

- You are expected to get the AP no & OGA no from SIRIM. It will be ready in a hour and you leave can call back to get it.

- With this details & the letter proceed to POS KLIA (actually it's next to LCCT)

- Go to the guard post & give your driving license to get a visitor pass

- Go to POS Counter 2 (not Kastam Counter 2) which is on the way to the toilet

- You are asked to proceed to Counter 1 (POS) to give your visitor pass, collect the package, and return to Counter 2 (POS).

- Provide the documents & the details (AP & OGA). Here you have declare the phone value AGAIN. Keep it below RM500 and you only have to pay RM18 for EDI service. More than that you'll have to pay 10% to Kastam. Go to Counter 6 (POS) to make the payment and return to Counter 2 (POS).

- Proceed to Counter 2 (Kastam) and pass the document. The officer will ask you to open the box (usually they have opened the box before & resealed it).

- Proceed to the Counter next to it for final clearance/tax payment and then you have to proceed to Counter 1 (POS) to collect your pass. Done!

Source - http://forums.ebay.com.my/thread.jspa?threadID=500000887
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post Apr 19 2010, 10:51 AM

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I heard many -tv comment about Htc Desisre battery, that this Desire will run out of power quickly.... But still... i want this phone... This is my opinion, SOLUTION----> we buy extra HTC Desire battery and external charger hehe .... How much HTC Desire battery and external charger here in Malaysia???
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QUOTE(Ryo83 @ Apr 19 2010, 10:51 AM)
I heard many -tv comment about Htc Desisre battery, that this Desire will run out of power quickly.... But still... i want this phone... This is my opinion, SOLUTION----> we buy extra HTC Desire battery and external charger hehe .... How much HTC Desire battery and external charger here in Malaysia???
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Most phones have so so battery performance. The standard seems to be 1 full day of use. The Desire fits into this category. Just make sure you have the micro-USB cable with you and maybe the wall charger. Then you can charge everywhere you go.
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QUOTE(ineser @ Apr 19 2010, 07:24 AM)
Price breakdwon:

GBP 330 + 34 shipping = GBP 364

Convert to RM = RM 1830

SIRIM = RM215 and tax around RM128.14

Total = RM 2173

Actually not bad if buying from Clove, but the thing is now the volcanic ashes in Iceland causing all flights cease to operate, we wont know when will the package arrive

Bad thing is the warranty is 2 yrs covered by Clove which u have to send it back to UK if something happen to the phone
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oh ya forgot about land of taxes tongue.gif

my fren's unit should be delivered to his home today morning but unfortunately he not at home so fedex need to come again next day..
and from what i heard in australia forum, ppl who get their units from clove/handtec stuck at uk or around europe(many transits) is resume today..

they said the battery performance not rly good(is normal for smartphone) but after charge for another few times, the battery seems get a bit better
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post Apr 19 2010, 12:53 PM

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which one has more storage rom between desire n nexus one? I heard desire only have 120mb, what about n1? And which one has better battery?
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QUOTE(maliqu3 @ Apr 19 2010, 12:53 PM)
which one has more storage rom between desire n nexus one? I heard desire only have 120mb, what about n1? And which one has better battery?
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I think almost the same. But I do know Desire has a lot of programs pre-installed from the ROM. You will need custom ROM modders to give us a lean ROM biggrin.gif

120MB is not much but considering the apps from Android Market are pretty small, I guess mainstream users should be just fine. It is only a matter of time before Google release some new revisions that enable installation on micro-SD card.
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Is it true that once root the phone, then cannot unroot it back
for warranty claim ?
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post Apr 19 2010, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Apr 19 2010, 01:14 PM)
I think almost the same. But I do know Desire has a lot of programs pre-installed from the ROM. You will need custom ROM modders to give us a lean ROM biggrin.gif

120MB is not much but considering the apps from Android Market are pretty small, I guess mainstream users should be just fine. It is only a matter of time before Google release some new revisions that enable installation on micro-SD card.
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so we shouldnt worry about the storage memory then. what about the battery, which one has better battery life between 2 of them? does Iphone 3GS has better battery life than them?

This post has been edited by maliqu3: Apr 19 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(youbabi @ Apr 19 2010, 03:30 PM)
Is it true that once root the phone, then cannot unroot it back
for warranty claim ?
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i guess it is..once u root then ur warranty will void..but not sure the physical damage will void too or not

QUOTE(maliqu3 @ Apr 19 2010, 03:41 PM)
so we shouldnt worry about the storage memory then. what about the battery, which one has better battery life between 2 of them? does Iphone 3GS has better battery life than them?
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i can say tht iphone 3gs battery life is better than htc desire.. all users are struggling to get their battery last for 1 or even half day...but this because there are many processes running in android(especially multitasking)..

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 19 2010, 01:52 PM)
i guess it is..once u root then ur warranty will void..but not sure the physical damage will void too or not
i can say tht iphone 3gs battery life is better than htc desire.. all users are struggling to get their battery last for 1 or even half day...but this because there are many processes running in android(especially multitasking)..
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There's one reviewer that seems happy with the battery life http://www.coolsmartphone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=33304 Apparently for him, he managed to get at least 1.5 days with a single charge.


Added on April 19, 2010, 2:08 pm
QUOTE(ineser @ Apr 19 2010, 10:45 AM)
Apparently quite a long proccess

- If the package goes to POS Malaysia, even with item marked as GIFT. Kastam/POS can open the package.

- If the package contains a phone, you'll get a call & after 1 to 2 days you'll get a letter.

- You are expected to go to SIRIM (Block 9) in Shah Alam to get an AP permit with the letter from POS. You will fill 2 forms and enter market value for the phone. AP permit is RM250 and for personal or sample items only. You can bring up to 3 units and not more.

- You are expected to get the AP no & OGA no from SIRIM. It will be ready in a hour and you leave can call back to get it.

- With this details & the letter proceed to POS KLIA (actually it's next to LCCT)

- Go to the guard post & give your driving license to get a visitor pass

- Go to POS Counter 2 (not Kastam Counter 2) which is on the way to the toilet

- You are asked to proceed to Counter 1 (POS) to give your visitor pass, collect the package, and return to Counter 2 (POS).

- Provide the documents & the details (AP & OGA). Here you have declare the phone value AGAIN. Keep it below RM500 and you only have to pay RM18 for EDI service. More than that you'll have to pay 10% to Kastam. Go to Counter 6 (POS) to make the payment and return to Counter 2 (POS).

- Proceed to Counter 2 (Kastam) and pass the document. The officer will ask you to open the box (usually they have opened the box before & resealed it).

- Proceed to the Counter next to it for final clearance/tax payment and then you have to proceed to Counter 1 (POS) to collect your pass. Done!

Source - http://forums.ebay.com.my/thread.jspa?threadID=500000887
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Phew rclxub.gif , thanks anyway...I think I'll stick with buying off someone that does this all the time...

This post has been edited by zackloy: Apr 19 2010, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(maliqu3 @ Apr 19 2010, 01:41 PM)
so we shouldnt worry about the storage memory then. what about the battery, which one has better battery life between 2 of them? does Iphone 3GS has better battery life than them?
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Even iPhone 3GS can last slight over 1 day. If you game a lot and access network data while on the go, it'll be less than 1 day too. Even Milestone have similar battery performance.

If you fetch a lot of data from the network especially those widgets, your battery will go flat at the end of the work day. Try to set a lower frequency like every 2 hours or more. I have an impression that Android's power management can still be improved since it is a young OS. Lots of room for improvements. Plus it has a 14xxmAH battery. My HD2 with 12xxmAH battery, same hardware and larger screen also can withstand 1.5 days. No need to worry lar...
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Apparently for android phones such as HTC Desire, the apps can only be installed in their internal memory.

According to gsmarena.com review

"The HTC Desire has 512MB ROM and almost 80% of it is used or reserved for the Android OS. This leaves you with 120MB free space for all your apps and games. As you may know, the Android OS still doesn’t support installation on memory cards or even extended inbuilt storage (such as the 8/16 GB of the Samsung I9000 Galaxy S, which are listed as internal drive). So you have only 120MB to install what you need"

Does it show that it's a downside of Desire?

Anyone encounter any problem regarding no enough space for apps?
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QUOTE(youbabi @ Apr 19 2010, 01:30 PM)
Is it true that once root the phone, then cannot unroot it back
for warranty claim ?
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yes you can 'unroot' it, by flashing the original ROM into it, and then take it for warranty claim.

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QUOTE(7CY @ Apr 19 2010, 02:57 PM)
Apparently for android phones such as HTC Desire, the apps can only be installed in their internal memory.

According to gsmarena.com review

"The HTC Desire has 512MB ROM and almost 80% of it is used or reserved for the Android OS. This leaves you with 120MB free space for all your apps and games. As you may know, the Android OS still doesn’t support installation on memory cards or even extended inbuilt storage (such as the 8/16 GB of the Samsung I9000 Galaxy S, which are listed as internal drive). So you have only 120MB to install what you need"

Does it show that it's a downside of Desire?

Anyone encounter any problem regarding no enough space for apps?
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Haven't heard of anyone running out of space cause most people I know just root their Droid and save apps on the sd card. Don't worry too much, most apps are not more than 2MB in size. Eventually Google will release a new version of Android which will allow us to save apps to sd card.
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QUOTE(yan5619 @ Apr 19 2010, 03:06 PM)
yes you can 'unroot' it, by flashing the original ROM into it, and then take it for warranty claim.
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you sure you can unroot even after your phone spoilt?
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post Apr 19 2010, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(maliqu3 @ Apr 19 2010, 01:41 PM)
so we shouldnt worry about the storage memory then. what about the battery, which one has better battery life between 2 of them? does Iphone 3GS has better battery life than them?
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i've seen the nexus one and Iphone 3gs in action and Iphone needs to be charged everyday.
the nexus one battery can last 1.5 days or so.

so how's the battery life between the Nexus 1 and the desire?
performance, we can say its the same le.
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About battery life... I think it is because the flash support inside browser and also live wallpaper.. with new htc sense. .. even my htc magic with sense rom did run out battery faster than other ROM..
If anyone of u eager to buy desire and choose rooted path.. u do not to worry that much... developer from modaco surely will make custom rom stabilize the battery life... same story goes to htc magic 32a user like me... now I'm using superD ROM with fast speed and great battery life performance... desire have a lot of potential.. so what u need to do is just to patiently wait for those brainstorm-er from modaco to create a great custom Rom...
Based on my experience on rooted path.. I could guarantee my word..
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Guys, opinion please....I have a friend that is in Dublin for training and coming back in a couple of weeks, should I ask him to get the Desire? Only problem is warranty... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(7CY @ Apr 19 2010, 02:57 PM)
Apparently for android phones such as HTC Desire, the apps can only be installed in their internal memory.

According to gsmarena.com review

"The HTC Desire has 512MB ROM and almost 80% of it is used or reserved for the Android OS. This leaves you with 120MB free space for all your apps and games. As you may know, the Android OS still doesn’t support installation on memory cards or even extended inbuilt storage (such as the 8/16 GB of the Samsung I9000 Galaxy S, which are listed as internal drive). So you have only 120MB to install what you need"

Does it show that it's a downside of Desire?

Anyone encounter any problem regarding no enough space for apps?
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Thats not the downside of Desire. Its the downside for all Android phones. If you look at Android apps, they aren't really that big. Most of them are less than 1MB with a few going to 5MB or possibly more. When this happen, the developers tend to put the core program onto internal ROM and put the rest into the SD card anyway. No issues. Same goes to navigation programs. Android apps makes use of a common program code pool (called Dalvik or something). So the apps carry the bare minimum codes.

The Samsung Galaxy S and a few upcoming phones will have large internal storage. It doesn't matter because the same limitation applies. The context of this limitation means all programs will have to be installed onto the ROM partition of the device which is 512MB-1GB big. Other storage even though it is internal or a micro-SD card but embedded inside the device makes no difference.

Hope that clears the confusion.

This post has been edited by davidmak: Apr 19 2010, 04:42 PM
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post Apr 19 2010, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(ineser @ Apr 19 2010, 05:24 AM)
Price breakdwon:

GBP 330 + 34 shipping = GBP 364

Convert to RM = RM 1830

SIRIM = RM215 and tax around RM128.14

Total = RM 2173

Actually not bad if buying from Clove, but the thing is now the volcanic ashes in Iceland causing all flights cease to operate, we wont know when will the package arrive

Bad thing is the warranty is 2 yrs covered by Clove which u have to send it back to UK if something happen to the phone
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Where can you get Desire for GBP330 ?? The cheapest from a reliable store I can find is from play.com

This post has been edited by urb7: Apr 19 2010, 09:18 PM

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