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post Oct 1 2009, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Livko Tilitovo @ Oct 1 2009, 04:35 PM)
Those existing customer who wanna apply Eon GSC better stay away...totally useless card ...the discount is too little and without the bonus ...don apply if ur their existing card member
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Well, savings is still savings. Plus it allows you to queue at the gold lanes at bigger GSCs, which I find rather handy (saved me the massive queue for transformers, since I didn't make reservations. did I mention MASSIVE queue? =p)

So yea, it does have it's uses, and it's free for the first year or so? One could cancel it if they don't wanna waive after that, don't see why one needs to avoid the card
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post Oct 13 2009, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(winner @ Oct 13 2009, 07:28 PM)
You can always check your e-statement and monitor your unbilled transactions and spending online. It shouldn't be an excuse for not making payment promptly. smile.gif
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Well not everyone is tech savvy, so it can be a valid reason. I would know, I've seen ppl write in to request for interest waiver with the excuse of statements always arriving late laugh.gif
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post Oct 14 2009, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(winner @ Oct 13 2009, 08:51 PM)
"Statements Arriving Late" is definitely not an acceptable excuse. Bank has already given you 20-day interest free plus another 3-day grace period. The statement shouldn't take more than 20 days to reach your house. On the other hand, "Statement Never Arrived" could be accepted once but not many times. biggrin.gif
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Yea, I suppose it makes more sense to say statement did not arrived rather than saying it was late. Still, I've seen someone successfully waiver his interest with that excuse. Probably cause he was a big shot and an important client to the bank laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jye'n @ Oct 14 2009, 09:08 PM)
hi guys,

I have 20K+ treatpoints with my MBB Classic Master card
And some on my MBB Petronas Gold card.
I feel like terminating the Classic master card, so will the treatpoints be burnt?
PLease advice.
thanks
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Call up cs, see if they can transfer your points to the Petronas card before terminating the Classic.
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post Oct 17 2009, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(hAnn @ Oct 17 2009, 04:51 PM)
sori but IBG stands for?
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Interbank Giro. Basically interbank transfer, which will cost you anywhere from RM0.50 to RM2.00, depending on which bank account you have
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post Oct 23 2009, 08:13 PM

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Just read the news about this. I do get where they're coming from, a service fee will ensure people don't subscribe to a million cards and spread out their debts all over.

But still, most of us have multiple cards as different cards serve different purposes. I don't think imposing such charges is the best way of mitigating problem above, but probably it's the easiest to implement at the moment.

Rather upset with this particular announcement, gonna wait and see, and start cancelling cards in December if banks don't respond
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Wow this thread is buzzing tongue.gif

Well I'm gonna hold onto my cards for now, and see if the banks respond. If they don't I'll compile the cards to be cancelled and mass fax cancellation notices in December. Probably the most I'll keep is 3 cards sad.gif
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@hackqym:

Document above is the budget presentation. Although it says "mencadangkan", it does not mean "suggest". It means propose. i.e. once approved, it's enforceable
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QUOTE(hackqym @ Oct 23 2009, 08:50 PM)
that's why i'm thinking to keep 2 cards are enough  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Yeah, at most 3. Can't afford to keep more than that man sad.gif
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QUOTE(automan5891 @ Oct 23 2009, 09:03 PM)
To be approved by Parliament not the banks, which 100% will happen.
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It's already approved. Obviously banks are not the approving authority to government budgets laugh.gif
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QUOTE(winner @ Oct 23 2009, 10:10 PM)
Gosh! I am now in Changi Airport and receive this bad news!

It's time to really look into my CCs and consolidate them. I may reduce the number of CCs to 2 in December. Out of the 5 CCs I have right now, the first to be cut are SCB VI (seldom use it) and Amex Gold cc (not widely accepted, although I could get 5x points for groceries and petrol pruchases). 1 VISA and 1 MC are enough for me.
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You could probably just do with either or, I don't think there're actually places that accept on Visa or MC anymore, not that I've come across anyways

QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Oct 23 2009, 10:16 PM)
Obviously our 1PM wants to collect money from us, coz the taxes of alcohol and cigarette are already high, he needs to look for alternative , ended up credit card has been targeted.
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Don't think they're really doing this to collect money. They just want to prevent ppl from having to much exposure.
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QUOTE(lvd @ Oct 23 2009, 10:29 PM)
can? can help? use yoru brain plz,
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Well yea, I am using my brain, and it can help. I've seen the kinda debt ppl get into when having multiple cards.
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in reference to the above, tinker meant 2010 btw tongue.gif

@hye, gotta agree with you. Will take some getting used to of not having the number of cards I have now, but it'll be interesting to see how banks respond

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@tinker
That's what I was thinking too. Banks would want to shift their focus to the Debit cards, since it's not subject to the service fee, and banks being banks, would obviously look to give out loans. Overdraft on your debit card seems plausible, lol
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QUOTE(lvd @ Oct 23 2009, 11:35 PM)
it wont help ok? so wat? people will also debt the rm50 charge
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Yes, it obviously is not targetted at ppl who are in crap load of debt. For ppl like that, there's legal actions.

It's more for upcoming users, trying to prevent ppl from falling into the trap of having multiple card debts in the first place.
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Oct 23 2009, 11:57 PM)
You phail?

What he was trying to say is if all it takes is RM50 per year to get extra credit, those who are desperate will be willing to pay also. Cheaper than borrowing from ah long what.
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Yes, and I was saying it is not targetted at such ppl. Alot of ppl don't intend to borrow in the first place, but take on alot of CC due to advertising,sales agents,etc, and THEN fall into the trap of starting to accumulate debt.

Learn to read before passing judgment of failure upon one person.

And as I've mentioned before, it's obviously not the most effective way to curb debt, but one of the simplest to implement

Figure, I never said it'll be a huge success. I was saying it has it's validity, and will work to certain extents. READ : Not most effective method
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Oct 24 2009, 12:20 AM)
Thats why he said its not going to work.
Basically there are two category of card owners. One with money and one without. What they did will deter those with money who use card for convienient or to earn rebates. But that RM50 is nothing for someone looking for credit. This latter category of card owners are those who keep registering new cards to balance transfer to get out of blood sucking interest rate. This free up the credit in the first card and the spending continues. This cycle continue each and every time the card owner need fast cash and fast way out. So if you want to stop prudent spending, suspend all new cards or limit one card per person.
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Yes, it won't stop the 2nd category of ppl. It however will stop the first category from falling into the trap of accumulating debt. Yes, such ppl initially subscribe to cards for convenience and rebates and benefits and what nots, but there are numerous of such ppl who fall into the trap of delaying payment.

Such ppl start out harmlessly claiming they just want convenience. Which at that point was all they needed. But since cards rewards more the more you spend, they start shifting all expenditure to the card. To top that up, they start spending more than usual because what they purchase in this month, they can worry about it with next month's income. Then something pops up next month, messes with their cashflow, and they realise they're paying ridiculous interest. So, they apply another card to balance transfer. And while they can't make purchases with the card with transferred balance, they could always apply another one, and then the vicious cycle repeats itself.

You're looking at it from 2 extremes, that ppl either spend wisely on cards or start off looking for credit. I'm saying that there're ppl who start of being the former, but gradually shift to the latter, and thus fall into the trap of accumulating debt. Once they're there, they get used to the luxurious lifestyle, that they don't want to stop.
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@andrekua

Neither do I want to drag it anymore. I get where you're coming from, just say I've seen alot of ppl go all wrong due to the number of cards they're trying to service. The service charge is suppose to prevent this in the first place.

Yes, there're obviously more effective ways, but the government obviously chose the one easiest to implement, and well, beneficial to them at the same time.
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Yeah, as hye mentioend previously, like the 97 days, banks will have to buck up again and start being really competitive, since hardly anyone would want to hold multiple cards from different banks.

But I do think some will shift focus to the debit cards. Maybank seemed to launch their new one (master card debit) at just about the right time hmm.gif
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@yiivei,

It just has to be a written notice with your signature confirming you want to cancel the card. You can fax it to the bank, drop it off at the branch, etc.

As per previous thread, you could probably do somethin like this:
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[Your name]
[Your address]
[Date]

Dear Sir or Madam:

Please let this letter serve as notice that I am terminating my credit card account effective immediately. Please close the following account:

Credit Card Company: ____________
Account Number: ________________

Please send me written confirmation that my account has been closed. Also, please confirm that you have notified all appropriate credit card bureaus that this account was closed at my request.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
[Your Signature]


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