Science Is biofuel (biodiesel) feasible in Malaysia?
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 Dec 6 2009, 11:10 PM
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algae will be a good idea... but like palm oil, i dont think it will be sustainable.. 1st of all is pricing, if oil drops below palm oil like now, d whole industry dies... also taking interms of energy to manufacture d fetilizer, fuel for machines to harvest d buah, d food to feed d indon workers.. i dont think it is a good idea
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Dec 8 2009, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE(locke @ Dec 7 2009, 02:33 AM) So what is their conclusion? is it feasible or not feasible? i believe it is in d same field but not the same topic... not many unis research on that... because it is understood it is not feasible, even if it is feasible it is not sustainable/financially viable |
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Dec 16 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 16 2009, 05:42 PM) I think a lot of people miss out the cost wise. you havent add in the refining part of d crude oil... crude oil can produce a lot of other stuff besides petroleum.... and d refining process requires a lot of energy in terms of electricity.... so cannot use crude oil price... must use petrol n diesel price.. 1 barrel of crude oil - USD 70 = RM238 1 barrel = 159 litres Crude oil cost you 238/159 = RM1.50/litres 1 tan of crude palm oil = RM2400 1 tan approximate 1000 litre Crude palm oil cost = Rm2.40/litres. How can bio-fuel fight with fossil fuel if cost wise already high at starting point, not to mention the technical difficulty for bio-fuel engine. Unless legislation required, purely on commercial wise that everything talk about $$ and cost, there is no way bio-fuel can outmuscled fossil fuel. Ask ourself, do you willing to pump Rm2.40/litres one instead of Rm1.50/litres if both are the same (in actual fact, bio-fuel still lose out to fossil fuel until now in term of technical wise) crude oil also have to go through refining but in a diff way... not all palm oil is used, certain part is sold more exp to pharmacys and cosmetic companies... after all d exp part is gone, d lousiest part is used for fuel.. and to produce fuel from this crude is just by adding ethanol and some mixing... however i still think palm oil is not viable because d fertilizer is crazy exp... our workers now are all indons n indians.. how many can we hire? |
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Jan 21 2010, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(staticxtreme @ Jan 18 2010, 03:56 PM) it is feasible. First of all oil price will not drop below palm oil prices. Energy consumption is expected to double in the next few decades. If supply is running low and demand is doubled.. how can they prices rise? heh? CPO is 800usd/ton worTherefore, yes biofuel is the next step. |
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