i think if u wan to find 2nd hand lens is a bit hard... coz mostly all of them consist of canon or nikon...
go for 450D and u will have extra money to buy another 50mm F1.8 but it is a discontinued model...
search for it b4 its finish or go for 1000D... but 1000D has been out for a while now waiting for its replacement...
500D is RM3000
many say nikon produce the lowest noise...
of course it has bad review coz olympus noise control is not very good... i personally use it in my office and compared with my IXUS, the gap is
but if u really concern on the wide angle then i will suggest u to take it coz wide really can capture more...

bro lugianmc, the way you are replying is counted as spamming, you should multi quote and reply once only

For what brand? For Nikon it'd be a Nikon 17-55/Tamron 17-50 and a Nikon 70-300. For Canon it'd be a Tamron 17-50/Canon 17-55 and a Canon 55-250. Sony I think should be 17-55 and the 55-200. (If Sony has a 17-55 that is) The 18-70 kitlens is absolutely horrible. At least that's what I see from the a250/350/230. Tried these three with that lens... not much difference. All looked really bad. Needed a LOT of sharpening with Lightroom to achieve similar quality.

wah seriously? what packgae le?