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Buying Advice Wanna buy New Camera? Undecided which to choose?V3, ASK HERE! Dont create a thread elsewher

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post Mar 12 2010, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Inspire4x @ Mar 12 2010, 12:00 AM)
help me guys !..........been reading all the review for 2 night but still cannot make decision *headache

My budget is Rm1000, and i want the camera that produce a clear & sharp picture within this budjet, i love to capture emotion of person ,scenery & take pic with my girl  ( i know some of you will recommend DSLR but my budget restrict me )

from my surveillance at lowyat plaza today , i had 4 camera in my mind

1) canon ixus 100is @ 120 is
2) panasonic lumix fp8
3) sony w350
4) samsung st550

the salesgirl `racun` me to take samsung, and I really impress with it user interface, but i decide to google it first,
Ooo...forget to say, canon power shot sx120, issit produce a good pic, bcoz maybe I able to learn with manual function (aperture, shutter, iso )
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I'd say SX120 if you're really interested in learning manual, 100 IS if you just want a casual. The 120 is expensive, the FP8 also over a bit (but a good choice nevertheless), w350 isn't that good, and the Samsung...

Don't get it. Trust me you won't like seeing your face being horribl-ized by that camera. It is seriously lacking on the image quality side.

QUOTE(casadida @ Mar 12 2010, 10:19 AM)
i was thinking about that too. I have tried hands on both cameras asking them how to operate on the menu.
Seems nikon buttons r all out and easier to control. but you need to press on them and set the settings
where my hands felt kinda cacat.  shakehead.gif

Whereas, canon, u need to go further in details n etc.  I did like photography just dun have the confidence.
summore funny thing is that the promoter psycho me into getting the S90 since i really blank with dlsr. =P

btw, just a noob question, live view = u can see what you take on the lcd screen?

canon = can see what you take from the screen
nikon = cannot see from the screen( only can view after shots are being taken? )
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btw, for kit lens, from what i feel is that D90 is kinda cheaper though the lens is cut less than half.
Why r u saying that budget permits then get D90? again  rclxub.gif
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S90 is a good choice, if you don't want a DSLR.

Yes, Live View means you're seeing the 'picture' on the LCD. Comes in handy when you can't put your face to the viewfinder (concerts, etc).

Both Canon and Nikon support Live View.

Also, D90 performs much better than the 550D. What do you expect? Intermediate against an entry-level WITH VIDEO. I'm not trying to insult or anything but it's kinda obvious that these mid-range cameras are just low-level ones with video. Hell it isn't even Full HD video.

Just go for the D90, you'll make up for it later while learning. If not then you're safe to go with the S90.

QUOTE(y_owez @ Mar 12 2010, 10:20 AM)
here's my situation guys:
i have olympus 1030  and its been couple years and now the video mode is spoiled now but the rest is ok.but i dont like taking night pictures. quality is bad for me.

first i wanted to get sony alpha 380 then decided nikon d5000.

sony :
twin lens
cheaper
no hd video mode
(personally sony fan, have a sony vaio and thinking of sony satio too tongue.gif )

nikon :
one lens,
MUCH more expensive.
swivel and hd video mode.

i need some direction from sifus here. should i go for sony and save and in the futre get another digi cam with video?

or spend on nikon?

i love the idea of swivel screen on nikon where i can do self portrait ( yes i like to camwhore tongue.gif ).sony is not far behind but cant swivel I THINK.only tilt.

please give ur 2 cents guys.

sony 380 twin lens around RM 2.4K
nikon d5000 single lens around : RM 2.6
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I'm a Sony fan too (I have 2 Vaio's, planning for another one, Bravia's in the house) but I have to let my case down on this though, Sony DSLRs just don't seem to appeal much. I don't know what they can boast about, unlike C and N.

Now, I shall elaborate a little on pros and cons.

Sony gives two lenses (18-70 and 55-200, if I'm not mistaken). - These two lenses are the cheapest, and the worst. Sorry to say I just despise both these lenses. Secondly, you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Cheap doesn't necessarily mean good, although it might seem to be. And lastly, HD video isn't really important anyway.

Nikon on the other hand. The price justifies the quality.

It's up to you, so, yeah. Good luck making your decision.
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post Mar 12 2010, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(jloi @ Mar 12 2010, 06:04 PM)
well said XP..sometime i get annoyed when my friend show off and comparing his A550 wif my D60..duh
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Bring out your 18-55. Alone enough to smack both the Sony lenses in quality.

D60 isn't really good though. Chose 1000D over it because of the measly 3 AF points. It felt like a beginner's camera. D3000 improved a lot though.
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QUOTE(jloi @ Mar 12 2010, 06:47 PM)
1000D also entry lvl cam..LOL..D3000 improve alot and replace D60 but the noise control sucks big time. The reason why i choose Nikon over canon coz of sharp lens and good white balance control tongue.gif..anyway no regret for me. Been using D60 for almost a year. And i might upgrade d body end of this year. Currently using Sb-600 and Tammy 1750 smile.gif..is good enuf for my event, model and landscape at the moment
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1000D still does better than D60. 7 AF enough d.

Feeling like getting a 17-55/17-50, but haven't been active with camera recently. Exams.
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post Mar 14 2010, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(lchen39 @ Mar 14 2010, 01:14 AM)
Need some advice, should i get EOS 7D Kit I (EF-S 15-85IS)  or EOS 7D + EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM ?
i'll use it for all purpose so i'm not sure izzit necessary to get 15mm or 24mm is wide enough.
thanks
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The 15-85 would be better, though not much has been said about it, so we have no idea how it performs compared to the previous 17-85 IS it replaces.

The 24-105 is too wide for an APS-C frame, and even I struggle at 18mm with the noob kitlens. It's your choice, you should mount both lenses and see the difference in range. It'll help you make up your mind.

QUOTE(dj.sars @ Mar 14 2010, 05:03 AM)
id like to ask something here tongue.gif
is it ok to go for the d80 over the d90 ?
coz i think the difference isnt really much isnt it ?
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It's definitely okay. You will save a lot in the process as IINM, D80 kits (2nd hand) are going for RM2k+. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The D90 improves quite a lot, but if price-wise, definitely the D80 wins, hands down. Besides, we don't need HD video.
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post Mar 15 2010, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(dreamtime @ Mar 14 2010, 04:21 PM)
can I ask, where can I get cheapest lx3 in kl or selangor?how much and package thx...
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Try searching in Garage Sales - you can get the cheapest there as there are no shop rentals included in the price (just a tip - a lot of sellers increase their price to support the rental).

It's around RM1.5k now I think, and it should include a case, a SD card and sometimes a screen protector.

QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Mar 14 2010, 07:59 PM)
I'm in the middle of confusion which to take. i already take 3 choices to be choose. Sony A230, Sony A330 and Nikon D3000. which one is the best? price is almost same.
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A230 is out. A330 is a higher level model.

To choose, you'll need to try them both out.

QUOTE(ILECHZ @ Mar 14 2010, 08:06 PM)
panasonic lumix x2 or canno d90?
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Canon D90? Or is it the Canon Powershot S90? And Lumix X2? You mean the LX3?

QUOTE(dj.sars @ Mar 14 2010, 10:46 PM)
thanks for the feedback wandererx tongue.gif
btw d80 body got motor ?
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Yes, as it is on par with the D90, it does.

QUOTE(y_owez @ Mar 14 2010, 10:48 PM)
sony 380, sony 550 and d5000k
any c and c for them?
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IMHO the D5000 would be better with the D90's sensor. No idea though, the a550 should be on par or below the D5000.

Go try it out for yourself, and if you want you may be influenced by the DPReview comparison.
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QUOTE(b1n1 @ Mar 15 2010, 01:55 PM)
torn between canon g11 and canon 1000D

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G11 if you don't want bulk. It's almost as good as the 1kD.

QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Mar 15 2010, 05:22 PM)
Why sony dslr is cheaper than nikon dslr ?
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Because they try to attract budget-constrained customers with the hope that they will be attracted to the brand. Believe me or not, fanboys, it's true.

QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Mar 16 2010, 04:55 PM)
My friend tell me , the all sony camera need to use their brand of memory card , other brand cannot use . Is it true ?
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Memory Stick. MSPD. DSLRs don't though.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Mar 17 2010, 10:00 PM)
no la, what i wan is at least can see the artist face and know it is that particular artist's concert i attended when i post it at facebook. coz i try to take with the camera phone, u will see those petak petak after we zoom it too much and can't even see the face clearly.  so in conclusion, i wan the smallest camera that can give me the best quality picture if i take from about 20m-50m distance. At least they dun give me the petak petak after i zoom it. Sorry coz i am a noob here, all the while i assume that since those SE phone comes with cybershot, so i persume that it works the same as a digicam. That's why i keep changing mobile phone and didn't think of getting a camera last time until recently i saw a picture taken from my aunt's 8mp digicam is much clearer than my phone, then i start to think wanna get 1 to smuggle into concert halls  biggrin.gif
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A better idea - if it's just one or two concerts, just ask your friends/family to loan you a camera to use for the day.

Other than that, the best superzoom compact I've seen till now is the Panasonic Lumix TZ7. Other than that there's the Canon Powershot series, not sure which model is good though, cause I've not been a fan of superzooms.

QUOTE(bulbz88 @ Mar 17 2010, 10:26 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories :  portable + traveling camera (WATERPROOF + tahan drop  biggrin.gif )
Budget: around 1k
Your Location:   Kuching
Preferable brand :  any brand will do...as long it is worth buying
Type of photography u want to do :  traveling purpose...
Any specific models in mind? :  currently prefer olympus?? any others?
Any specific features u want? :  tahan lasak enuf =)
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Unfortunately, you'll have to stick with Olympus' mediocre image quality, as no other brands have made waterproof shockproof and these kinda stuff cameras. There's a Canon Powershot D10 though if you're interested. It should be performing on par with Canon's standards.
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QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Apr 2 2010, 01:22 PM)
lol, juz wondering why sony is a nono. When it comes to low light performance n specs, it'll rock off canon big time. Hmm, price wise, yes, its expensive but u get tons of advantages. So i would say that its reasonable  biggrin.gif Well, since TX1/7 is way high up for ur budget, might as well forget it.  smile.gif

Back to 210. Well, 210 is still a new camera here, sadly though, im not sure which shop would actually sell it cheap for now, but canon malaysia is goin' for RM1399.
Wah, seriously bro, i got a fren who're looking for a cheap 210. Which shop are willing to sell it at 1k? Thanks smile.gif
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How sure are you that Sony 'rock off Canon big time' in low light performance? Mark your words with proof or I shall report you for fanboyism.
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QUOTE(lugiamcg @ Apr 2 2010, 02:47 PM)
lol, again! Well in this case, a camera review won't help. Lemme tell u my personal experience. In the end, it's still up to u. Few years back then, one of my friend bought an ixus 970 IS and another friend of mine got a Sony T300( if i didn't remember wrongly). Had some 'try out'(no flash) at a mamak store at night...and later we compared the quality of em' on a lappie. Believe it or not, the T300 really does work out with a lesser noise level(in fact both has noises). And last time, i remember that there aren't any 'lowlight' technology yet. These days, since sony introduces its next generation of camera( those with Exmor R), it couldn't make me believe that it will not do what is being told. The handheld twilight feature does seem pretty promising( im referring to LCD viewing).

Well, if u think im a 'huge' Sony fan, well NO. U see, Sony is pretty good in playing those marketing games and thus, they have been flooding their models with 'not-so-useful' technologies. Since there are people out there who might like it, i don't see the reason why I can't recommend it based on my own experience lol.

Btw, I didn't say that TX7 is all good u know. ^ refer previous posts. I've tested the camera at Sony center b4 proclaiming lol. It's juz my opinion to her, no forcing or anything. smile.gif
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1. I never provided help with reading reviews being my source.

2. Canon also came up with their own high ISO technology, just that they didn't give it a name. Also, 'seem pretty promising' may not be promising.

3. I seriously have a problem with your recommendations, because you recommend based on your preference. We recommend based on the best of the best. While Sony may be good (and from what I've seen, it's merely above average) it still has long to go to beat Canon/Panasonic out of the top ranks.

I think you'll need to do a re-evaluation before providing recommendations like these as you're not helping.

QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Apr 2 2010, 07:16 PM)
While I don't know about the prices in Malaysia (I'm in Taiwan).... the F200EXR cost only ~60% the price of LX3/S90.

I don't think the IXUS's and the sony compacts etc can match the Fuji's for value.

Anyway, basically it's a kiasu issue I suppose.
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Fuji definitely value for money but in M'sia, people prefer to go for better quality as most think RM300+ is a small difference.

Also, just FYI, F200EXR is RM1.2k+- in M'sia. RM300 more can get us a Canon Powershot S90/Panasonic Lumix TZ-7/LX-3.

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