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Buying Advice Wanna buy New Camera? Undecided which to choose?V3, ASK HERE! Dont create a thread elsewher

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TheWandererX
post Dec 26 2009, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(happy_cs @ Dec 26 2009, 07:22 PM)
Hi, may I ask whether the price of Nikon D5000 for RM3650 with the below accessories are reasonable or expensive?
- lense 18-55mm
- 4gb + 8gb memory card
- tripod (the quality are quite good)
- nikon bag
- additional of 2 yrs warranty
- blower kit

thanks in advance...  smile.gif
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All those extras can't push the price up so substantially. On its own (just the kit, no extras, no card etc) will amount to RM3k street price. The memory cards don't cost much. What brand is the tripod? There's no way to determine if the quality is good just by looking at it. It has to be from a reputable brand. Cause you never know, other brands might claim theirs is made of carbon fiber, but really its only made out of plastic.

Expect the price of this whole set to be around RM3200, at most, RM3300. No more. 3650 is nuts. I could get an extra 50mm 1:1.8D with the extra RM450.
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post Jan 15 2010, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Grajindo @ Jan 15 2010, 10:42 PM)
Can someone please help me out with some of these questions. My dad is thinking of getting a new compact camera. So these are the few choices. I would like to know what are the pros and cons of these camera.

Canon S90
Canon G11
Lumix LX3

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Canon S90: A G11 in a more compact body. Don't know where it lacks, but as far as I know the ring on the lens is a really smart innovation.
Canon G11: Best out of the three, I think. I'm not sure how this fares against the S90 seeming as they both use the same hardware.
Lumix LX3: Lags behind these two. Equipped with a measly 2.5x zoom too. Definitely, choose a Canon over the Lumix if you have the budget.
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post Jan 17 2010, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(wanna be hi-tech @ Jan 17 2010, 12:50 AM)
Thanks dvlzpgrd for youy reply. Anyway i have now got my 1000d, a little cheaper than the price that i had said earlier.
But had a annoying experience!!!!!!!! I COULDN'T GET MY PICS TO LOAD INTO MY PC[/B]**$#%&^%$#^^^[/SIZE].
I had installed all the softwares provided in two different machines (XP & W7), tried connecting 1000d to both machines with usb cable (previously used for DMC FZ5), which i still use to connect my Asus smartphone. Tried connecting with card reader, still nothing was detected by both machines!! Also formatted the card (causing me to lose my pioneer DSLR pics). Tried using non HS card - only detected if connected thru card reader. Totally pissed i went back to dealer and got a replacement SDHC....and still had the same problem. So i decided to head for Canon customer service ..and then something struck me....and yes it worked finally biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  Can any of u guys guess what was the problem or have any of u encountered the same situation ???
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Uh, okay? You're not supposed to use a foreign cable with your 1000D, you're supposed to use the one which comes along with your camera. Different cables sometimes have extras (located in the cylindrical thing attached to the wire) that is special for each device, if it is there.

Anyway, problems should go to the EOS Family thread. This isn't a call-to-help topic, it's a recommendation topic.
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post Jan 17 2010, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(destfull @ Jan 17 2010, 06:48 PM)
a380 smile.gif

d3000 don't even have inner motor

which sony lens is expensive dude? smile.gif
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Doesn't mean no motor = no good.

Go and try them out yourself, but make sure not to succumb to any technical stats. They're not important at all because we're comparing potato with potato here. Choose the one that feels best to you.

QUOTE(wanna be hi-tech @ Jan 17 2010, 07:50 PM)
I'm sorry for breaching the thread topic, guess i got carried away. But anyway u r right Wanderer, the cable was the problem. It worked fine when i used the provided cable.

**Thanks for your concern, Love Money, but the card the wasn't the problem (anyway it was a sandisk)
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It's no problem, anyway. Just so you know the cable that comes with Canon has some special functions in the cylinder attachment, so yea. The camera won't work with other cables.

Also, if your card reader won't read, 99% it's the card reader's problem. Cards never experience much problems, they're dummy-proof toys. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Quickerzranoid @ Jan 17 2010, 08:26 PM)
'wanna be hi-tech' -> how much u got for the d3000? mind to share? with kit lens means oni 1 lens rite for the nikon, not like the a380 which i can get 2 lenses with rm2600... m i right?

'destfull' -> i cant say which lens is expensive n all that, as i said, im new in DSLR world, but i heard some ppl said 'cannot la sony, the lenses are more expensive than other brand'... that's y i ask here.. is that true? but u sounded like it's not true... hehehe... thanks... smile.gif

'TheWandererX' -> i tried both.. but.. hehehe... still dunno the diff of both of them (newbie).. by the way... what is inner motor?  sweat.gif

Besides, there is no 'twin lens kit' for nikon rite?  blush.gif
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Firstly, yes. Each brand has their own pros and cons. And yes, Sony lenses are expensive. Averagely their lenses are more expensive than the Nikon/Canon equivalent. Their optics (glass in the lens) isn't as sophisticated as Canon's L lenses/Nikon's G lenses either. Sony bought over Konica Minolta though, so they have been working on the old tech to make better ones.

In my opinion the safest option is to settle with the big two, Canon or Nikon. I do see and know of some people who are continuously promoting their personal preference, and I'm really fed up of watching them do so. That's why I've gotta take the initiative.

By the way I'd suggest for you to go with the Nikon D3000. No personal preference or whatsoever, it is one of the best ones in the market.

And no, there is no twin lens kit for Nikon. Canon rare, Sony the most, as they have to do lots of marketing to gain market share.
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jan 17 2010, 10:14 PM)
the nikon d3000 should be around rm2k with kit lens, or 1.7k without any lens (if u prefer other lens). Rm2.3k is too expensive dude tongue.gif

i've heard ppl say sony lenses are more expensive too, but when i survey they're not hehe. also heard they're quite user-friendly, although i never played with one myself.

about the AF motor in d3000, it's like this. for nikon cameras, only the D90 and above has built-in AF motor, meaning they can use a huge range of lenses.

the d5000 and d3000 has no AF motor, so they can only autofocus on newer lenses called AF-S, which has the AF motor built-in. they still can USE other lenses, but just cant autofocus so u need to rely on manual focus. but for me no AF motor is not a big problem. the choices of AF-S lenses are pretty good smile.gif if i bought a d90 i'll probably use it with AF-S lenses anyway hehe
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Very, very hard to find grey set Sony lenses. And yeah they're user friendly. At the sacrifice of being not as powerful as the latter.


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QUOTE(Quickerzranoid @ Jan 17 2010, 10:33 PM)
Thanks a lot TheWandererX.. This is really convincing.. it's helpful/useful.. 1 point for me to go for D3000. thanks again.  thumbup.gif

-dvlzplayground- D3000 is around RM2k? where can i get it? bcoz last weekend i visited nikon's gallery at times square, written there is rm2288, n since im newbie, i hv no guts to ask them further, or even bargain n so forth. maybe u know the pricing better, may i know where can i get it?  icon_idea.gif
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The gallery quotes retail prices. Street price is much cheaper. Btw, you can trust us - go on and bargain kaw kaw. Get everything you can - it's your right to bargain and demand for anything you want. Buyers are always at the win. nod.gif

Just a hint, bargain for anything and everything. OEM bags are a must, next will be cleaning kit. SDHC card. Lens filter for kit lens. Tripod. Etc. Whatever comes to your mind just go ahead and ask the dealer.

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QUOTE(destfull @ Jan 18 2010, 12:32 AM)
I hope you guys can read this and do research before state something smile.gif
and I always hate not so clever fanboys who talks blindly...

btw, this quote from albnok from Sony Alpha Thread:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Prices quoted from http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/885593 and http://www.shashinki.com/.
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Cheap doesn't mean best. Not intending to start a brand war, but um, the Canon 300mm F2.8L is cheaper? 135 F2L? And you're comparing a CZ 1.4 with Canon's 1.2? Canon's 28mm F2.8 cheaper too? Comparing the beercan with an L lens? I'm not sure what to say. rclxub.gif

QUOTE(sevensigns @ Jan 18 2010, 10:42 AM)
hello.I want to ask.If my budjet is only rm2k.What will should i get the dslr camera?.D60 or D80?.which one with good with my budjet..
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Definitely the D80. The D60 is a step down from it.

QUOTE(sevensigns @ Jan 18 2010, 06:22 PM)
how about d80 and d90.Does any differences about this 2.
d3000 vs d60
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D90 is the successor to D80. D3000 is the successor to D60. And an added tip, the D3000 has improved very much since the D60.


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QUOTE(destfull @ Jan 18 2010, 04:11 PM)
Up to you la dude, fenbui will always be fenbui.. I hope your math got credit or passed during SPM, if not I know the reason smile.gif
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And just so you know, we discuss, not flame. I guess you're just trying to start a flame war, no? Reported.

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QUOTE(Tenshi @ Jan 18 2010, 11:06 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR
Budget : 4k +/-
Your Location : KL
Preferable brand : Canon or Nikon
Type of photography u want to do : -
Any specific models in mind? : Canon 500D or Nikon D90
Any specific features u want? : -

Can I have some opinions on the models mentioned above?

I'm in dilemma... smile.gif
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Definitely the D90. The 50D costs about the same, and it has better FPS rate than the D90, but D90 has movie. Decide carefully. It'll be up to you to choose your preference, whether you want the video or the more serious shooting.

You can single out the 500D, it's an entry-level 1000D with video, that's all. Just a few added things here and there.


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QUOTE(shahiryusoff @ Jan 19 2010, 04:23 PM)
Hi guys, would like some help as i'm about to buy a DSLR. I would like to ask, where is the best place to buy a DSLR in KL where you can get it cheap or discounts maybe? I prefer Cannon. Any good shop which gives best price and service? icon_question.gif
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YL Camera in Pudu Plaza, DigitalsMania too. Pertama Complex... I can't remember. Should be Photo Selangor or something like that. There's Yuan Ghie Hsin which brings in grey units (Taman Megah). That's as far as I know la. I'm not really well-versed in this so apologies if my help is not adequate.

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QUOTE(Nidz @ Jan 19 2010, 05:12 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories : mFT; or shud i just buy dslr?
Budget : 3-4k max
Your Location : KL
Preferable brand : Lumix/Canon/Nikon

Type of photography u want to do : general shooting, sometimes low light conditions... but most of it will be for general event as well as when holiday-ing and sight seeing

Any specific models in mind? : ive prepared budget for Lumix GF1, but juz wanna know others opinion.

Any specific features u want? : i want it to be portable, (GF1 is the perfect size for me) and i dun really see that i will upgrade my gear so soon, so i wanted to know wut other things that i shud know about, especially about flash.
do i really need external flash? TTL? Wireless trigger?

thx in advance for ur kind feedback.
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General shooting, the GF1 would work perfectly. Lumix churns out wonderful cameras, but this one's based on the Micro Four Thirds system so you'll struggle a bit if you're thinking of taking wide-angle shots. Go for it, if you're all set then.

External flash is only needed if you really are dissatisfied with the built-in. Have a play around first. TTL is a technology implemented in modern flashes. The built-in one has it, don't worry about that. Wireless trigger is more for studio shots/shots with preparation. No, it's not practical.
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QUOTE(Nidz @ Jan 19 2010, 05:48 PM)
ok then, u suggest that i need not buy any external flash yet, juz play with the built in first. will consider that. thumbup.gif
btw, which camera will suite my budget (hopefully small size) if i want to take wide angle shots as well? lumix lens 14-45mm is not wide enuff?
well, wut dslr will u get if u were in my shoes? i dun mind carrying around neck or in bag, bt i dun really like if got many accessories need to bring also...
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14-45mm will translate to 28-90mm. Not too wide and not too zoom-y either. Anyway, don't go for external flash unless you're really sure you need it or you'll be wasting your money.

Also, I'd get a Canon EOS 50D. Not anything of a brand preference, I just find video useless to me (as in the Nikon D90) and I prefer to go with the 6.3fps. I shoot sports quite frequently.

Also, no, DSLRs are not dependent on accessories. I could attach a lens to my body and walk out not needing anything else. Those who overpack at their own expense la.
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QUOTE(Giff @ Jan 19 2010, 06:24 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR camera
Budget : 2k include lens
Your Location : KL
Preferable brand :  Nikon/Lumix
Type of photography u want to do : sport
Any specific models in mind? : D3000, D5000 @ G1
Any specific features u want? : friendly use for new user
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Sorry to tell you sports photography is not possible with any of these. Measly 3fps is not going to get you anywhere.

Definitely the Nikon D3000 would be your best preference in this case. D5000, forget it. Not even a 2nd hand. G1... you sure? :/

QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jan 19 2010, 06:35 PM)
as TheWandererX said, 14-45mm wont be considered a wide lens already on a m4/3. crop factor is 2x~ shud consider DSLR or a compact for wide-angle IMO tongue.gif

uhmm i vote for the D90, not bcuz of the video, but just because i prefer nikon. the canon 50D would be nice as well. both are very good cameras. if u want something smaller, can go for nikon d3000 or canon 1000d. they're lighter as well, n only rm2k so u get to spend 1-2k on a nice fast lens, zoom lens, a good bag, n maybe an external flash biggrin.gif


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mm have to be sensible lah, 2k wont get u a D5000. secondhand G1 maybe laa
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Adding on. Cameras with 24mm wide-angle (most Lumix compacts) would do you good.
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QUOTE(devil94 @ Jan 19 2010, 07:13 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR
Budget :3K ?
Your Location : KL
Preferable brand : Dono....Any recomend
Type of photography u want to do : Any.....
Any specific models in mind? : Nope
Any specific features u want? : Dono Still New hmm.gif
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I'd suggest a Nikon D5000 or a Canon EOS 450D with 1k left to spare. Hard to find though, it's slowly being sold out. Another option is the 500D. I don't like the RM3k DSLRs though. They're all just entry-level DSLRs with added video.

QUOTE(Nidz @ Jan 19 2010, 07:04 PM)
i see.. so, if i wanna wide angle as well as moderate zooming, then i shud get a dslr instead?
e.g, nikon d90 kitlens is 18-105mm, does this means the wide angle is 18mm?
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jan 19 2010, 07:17 PM)
ure missing out something called crop factor. nikon D90 crop factor is 1.5x. u need to remember this

while a 18mm focal length is considered a wide angle, when attached to a nikon 'DX format' DSLR, the 18-105 lens will become a 27-158mm lens (multiply by 1.5). thus, those lumix cameras with 24mm is actually wider than an 18mm lens on D90.

the 18mm of the 18-105 kit lens is referred to as the 'wide end' meaning it's the furthest u can go. however it's not 'wide angle' because it acts like a 27mm lens. the 18mm end can only be considered as a wide angle lens if u put them on FX format DSLRs since they have no crop factor (it'll still act as a 18mm lens).

yeah this stuff is confusing tongue.gif this is all because the D90 (and other DX format nikons) have a smaller sensor than a photographic film
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I hope this explains it well, if not better. Thanks mate (:
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QUOTE(dwin95 @ Jan 19 2010, 07:59 PM)
so basically a 450d got outrunned by 500d is just the video recording ?
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Yup. Totally. They share almost identical specifications, if not the same. Definitely on the outside they don't look the same at all. But the internals are what matters.
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[quote=dwin95,Jan 19 2010, 08:44 PM]alrite then , i think my aim will be on teh 450d , thanks !

anyway , wads this digic 3 / 4 thing anyway ?


Added on January 19, 2010, 8:46 pmbtw , why so mani people jump to the ' dark side ' and so little hopping into the ' bright side ' ? biggrin.gif
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Digic is the name of the image processor that Canon places in their DSLRs.

And that's a really subjective question. When the 1000D had only the D60 to compete with lots of people opted for the 1000D because it was the best.


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mm have to be sensible lah, 2k wont get u a D5000. secondhand G1 maybe laa
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mm, forget about the budget, i seldom hear ppl use the Lumix DSLR compare to nikon
if compare lumix n nikon, which are better?
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Lumix makes good cameras, but Nikon is one of the top guns in the DSLR market... Presumably, the Nikon would be better. Not much heard of Lumix DSLRs yet though.

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QUOTE(Tenshi @ Jan 20 2010, 01:27 AM)
So, 500D is not worth it? From what I know, the only advantage of 500D is with HD video but its actually its exactly the same as 450D, right? correct me if I'm wrong... smile.gif

Hmm... thanks for the opinion, I'll take the video option into serious consideration....

Secondly, which model has lesser noise lvl? D90 or 50D?

Another thing, according to dpreview spec review, I found out that D90's sensor is manufactured by Sony, should we concern about this too?

Sorry, if my questions sounds noob.... sweat.gif
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Not exactly the same. Quote I Love Money, an upgraded Digic IV processing engine, a sleeker body, 'HD' video. As far as I know HD is 1280x760 30fps. It's not close to that. So yeah. It's just 'video'. HD merely a marketing term.

2. Both results turn out to be very close. In DPReview there is a section in both the D90 and 50D review that shows the ISO comparison. It's marginal. Don't need to worry about that.

Also, although the sensor is produced by Sony, the algorithms and the processing is totally different and designed by Nikon. That's the main point. Yes sensor does play a big role, but the processing engine bigger. Each manufacturer developed their own processing algorithms, and that's what makes the difference.

QUOTE(nkymark @ Jan 20 2010, 07:24 AM)
Hi guys,

I'm in Melbourne and was shopping around for duty free dSLR. Got this deal for the D3000;
NIKON D3000 18-55&55-200MMVR TWIN LENS KIT
AUD899 = RM2822
Is it worth it? I'm a beginner FYI, and I don't plan to spend too much on a dSLR. Just a sufficient one will do :-)

Thanks.
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Hmm, it sounds like a good offer. Online shopping? I was wondering if you'd be able to find a local shop, cause then you're more likely to be able to bargain and grab yourself some freebies.

QUOTE(! Love Money @ Jan 20 2010, 08:42 AM)
no only video recording but more pixels sensor and improved DIGIC IV image processor
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I have to correct this. Firstly. APS-C sensors are all the same. From 1000D to 500D to 50D to 7D the sensors share the same size.

Also, Digic IV is just the noise processing. Maybe it processes noise better or something but I don't see much difference between 450D/500D in terms of image quality. Can't compare exactly because of the megapixel thing.

QUOTE(FerrariST @ Jan 20 2010, 12:19 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories : Compact Camera
Budget : Below 600
Your Location : KLANG - KL
Preferable brand : Canon
Type of photography u want to do : Landscape or Portrait, night shot
Any specific models in mind? : Canon
Any specific features u want? : HD, touch screen, Panoramic, good, anti shock, good battery life
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Ouch, not sure if you'd be able to achieve that. 600 is a bit too low. Also, Canon's don't make touchscreen cameras. They are focused on image quality. Secondly. HD is only available on the RM1k+ models I think. Should be, I'm not sure.

QUOTE(dwin95 @ Jan 20 2010, 01:41 PM)
well , lets see how the market will be around sept , maybe the price of 450d can be replaced by 500d , then confirm sapu . biggrin.gif , d5000 is also a step up of d3000 / 450d with video recording right ?
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Impossible. DSLR market prices do not depreciate that quickly. Camera bodies only depreciate when there is a newer model out. The 500D has been out for around a year alr plus minus. Expect later in the year, most likely next year for a new model.

QUOTE(aidono @ Jan 20 2010, 04:22 PM)
Need advice on which camera to purchase

Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR camera
Budget : RM2400 - RM3500
Your Location : KL
Preferable brand : Canon, Nikon and Olympus
Type of photography u want to do : Landscape, Portrait, Nightscene
Any specific models in mind? : Canon EOS 500D, Nikon D5000 and Olympus E620
Any specific features u want? : Friendly user camera (first timer in DSLR)
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All DSLRs have a degree of complexity that you'll have to learn up. But in terms of user friendliness compared to the pro-er models (50D, 7D, 1D, D300s, D700, D3, E-3) these are better.

Firstly I'll have to say I don't trust Olympus. That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. Their image quality is just so-so. If you're wondering, there's a reason why Canon and Nikon have the top market share in Malaysia.

If you're thinking of the Canon, I suggest you find a 450D kit. It costs RM2k+-, a shocking thousand bucks cheaper than the 500D, which is essentially a 'facelifted' 450D with video. It's not even HD, so why bother? The Olympus E-620... Only reason I know is that it is smaller than both Canon and Nikon.
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QUOTE(dwin95 @ Jan 20 2010, 07:51 PM)
o ? d5000 no focus motor = canon 500d wins ?
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That is so not true. Just because D5000 doesn't have an AF motor doesn't mean it can't AF. It only applies to older lenses. You won't need to worry a thing if you're not gonna be really into DSLRs and just want good photos.
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QUOTE(aidono @ Jan 20 2010, 08:01 PM)
Well, I know most of the people would prefer to go for Canon and Nikon at Malaysia compare to other competitors such as Olympus, Sony or even Pentax. That is why I am trying to survey out what's best around by asking your favor and I really appreciate what you have to share. Thanks.

You are right with the 450D kit come at RM2k+ and it is a thousand bucks cheaper compare to the 500D, but will the outcome of the picture of 450D fare better than 500D? But then, I will start to compare the picture taken with a D5000 and at the first point of view I think Nikon win over this two modals. Would the auto focus play a role to get a good picture and effect your judgment before purchasing your ideal camera?

If to change my mind set to purchase a 450D, I will be taking Sony’s Alpha DSLR - A350 for the comparison. And talking about video, what's HD? Thanks again for answering my inquiry earlier.
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Not really, the difference is marginal. These two models are both entry-level models. Therefore the difference won't be big, if there is any. Just so you know, the Nikon's algorithm contains sharpening and touch-up elements, so what you see isn't the real deal. It's modified in camera. Definitely the Nikon's output would look better. This is a very subjective question though. So there is no definite answer.

Also, yes, auto focus does play a TINY role. In the Nikon's, their older lenses (example the 50mm 1:1.8D) don't have built in autofocus motors because it was made for film cameras which had no autofocus. The AF motors inside the body is to help the older lenses to focus.

If you're gonna compare the 450D to the A350, definitely the 450D will stand out. I've played with both previously, and even the stats of the 450D outmatch the A350. It's another subjective question, and if I voice out a little too much I'll be accused of fanboyism. So I shall recommend you to go ahead and scour Google, this forum and other forums for your answer.

Good luck on making up your mind.
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Jan 20 2010, 10:11 PM)
About the D5000, although it doesn't have built in AF motor, it have the CMOS censor which is the same (or similar i 4got) as D90. Maybe the IQ or noise control is not as good as D90 but it's the best in the current entry level line up of Nikon.
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Yup. The D5000 is totally different from the 500D.

QUOTE(nkymark @ Jan 21 2010, 07:27 AM)
Nah... not online shopping. Just that one of the duty free shops here has that promotion smile.gif
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Oh. Well if so, then go ahead and bargain yourself out. You're the buyer, you have the money. (;

QUOTE(FerrariST @ Jan 21 2010, 12:38 PM)
Dear TheWandererX,

Thank you very much for your replied.

May i know what is the entry level budget for canon compact digital cam?
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Entry level budget? Oops, I won't be able to help with that.... but I reckon RM1000< would be good. (:

QUOTE(Sadru @ Jan 21 2010, 12:48 PM)
if ur new and started to venture into dslr world, i recon u tried the body, which body more suitable for you.

in my case, if u planning to get 500d, make sure u really want tat video function. if not, do consider 40d as its price is kinda around new 500d price. 450d kitset price are lower than 40d body itself so.. its out of the question.

as a owner of 500d and 40d, the 40d are by far feels really like a quality tool plus the handling are excellent. the af are soo much faster than 500d. while 500d can boast up about the iso, video and megapixel.

and yes 40d is 1 class above 500d and discontinued already. but bear in mind tat the glass ( terms of lenses ) are also important. not to mention speedlight all the accessory that will require ur attention after you bought the dslr ;D
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Haha. You know mate, I have been searching for a new 40D body. Ever since it stopped production. There's no more in the market now, I guess. cry.gif

QUOTE(aidono @ Jan 21 2010, 01:14 PM)
Actually what define those models are entry level? Would the 450D consider as an entry level as well? After hours of research in other forums, Youtube and friend's recommendation, the choice I have to make more likely come from Canon. But which model would you recommend? The 450D or the 500D?

Would the image taken looks the same? I am not familiar with the 450D and in the previous reply. you did mention that you played with both previously and it should not be an issue to know the pro and cons regarding 450D compare to the 500D biggrin.gif. As I know there are two kits for 500D which are the 18-55 and the 18-200. Obviously 18-55 would be my thought as the beginner lens but what I have in doubt is whether it is easy to use even for a person like me learning about DSLR? 18-200 would not be my pick because it might have CA problem and the it will have slightly soft images compare to the 18-55. Another thing that I am curious is why the 18-200 is way more expensive compare to the 18-55? Just because it provide a better and wider zoom perception?

And thanks again TheWandererX for helping me out a lot.
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Lying in the below RM3k range would send a DSLR into entry-level (subjective). Objectively the entry level models are those with lower specifications specifically catered to new DSLR owners. Also, I'd definitely recommend the 450D over the 500D. I strongly protest against the redundant RM1k extra you have to pay for 2.x extra megapixels (which doesn't matter, 12.1 is already huge, not to mention my 1000D's measly 10.1) newer stuff etc which performs almost the same.

Also, definitely the 18-55. I used to recommend the 18-200 as a good all-purpose lens but after hearing from fellow members and trying it out myself... Definitely forget it. The 18-55 is as easy to use as a normal compact. Trust me it's not a challenge at all. Lastly, yes. Because of the zoom range, the price hikes.

QUOTE(renaelyng @ Jan 21 2010, 01:12 PM)
Hi people!

Going to get myself a new camera. Between these 3 cams : Canon EOS 450D, Nikon D5000 and Sony Alpha 330.

Any advice? Can someone compare for me the pros and cons of those 3 cams?

Budget is around 3k-4k.

Kinda new to photography, so sound kinda noob here. Sorry!

Thanks!
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QUOTE(GreatOni @ Jan 21 2010, 04:33 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR
Budget :2k-3K
Your Location : KL
Preferable brand : canon or nikon
Type of photography u want to do :
Any specific models in mind? : 450d, 500d, d5000
Any specific features u want? :
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I shall direct this part of the post to you two.

Firstly and definitely, I'd recommend the 450D. It's a RM3k camera, which has had its price reduced to RM2k. Good enough to make me buy it already. The D5000 is also a good DSLR though, don't get me wrong. I haven't got to try one out yet but trust me, if you make up your mind for the D5000, you won't regret a single bit either. Now to the 500D, it's merely a hyped-up 1000D (yes you got me right, 1000D) with SLIGHTLY better specifications and video. That's all.

To the Sony Alpha a330. I have not gotten a chance to play with it either. I don't really trust Sony though, they have TOO MANY entry-level cameras in the market as of now. I don't know how to comment on this because I being a Canon user might be misinformed about facts. Lemme tell you this though - I've played with the A200, A300 and A350 previously (the older models of the new replacements) and they were horrible. They couldn't compare to my 1000D at all.

Guess the 1000D has a name to live up to eh? It's been in the market for quite a while already.
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QUOTE(FerrariST @ Jan 23 2010, 10:58 AM)
Dear TheWandererX,

Thank you very much for your replied.

If within <RM1000, any good recommendation for Canon digit compact model?

What is the different between Ixus and powershot? both are compact model right.

Pardon me for asking too much

thank you
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Either the Ixus 100/110 IS or the Powershot SX120 IS. Both are catering for different segments of the market, I suppose - Ixus to the younger generation and the Powershot to the more serious ones. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MGSxF @ Jan 24 2010, 02:46 PM)
Guys, need some opinion

Type of camera/lens/accesories :  Compact - Waterproof
Budget: <RM 1300
Your Location:   KL
Preferable brand : Panasonic
Type of photography u want to do :  snorkelling, beach, pool
Any specific models in mind? :  Pana FT1, Olympus Mju 8000
Any specific features u want? :  -

Wanting to get a compact waterproof camera, been asking prices around and reading reviews online.
Reviews says that FT1 IQ is better than mju 8000
But walking around in KL.. it's hard to find FT1 in stock, a silver one is even harder to find, and most keep telling me Mju 8000 is better in overall

Can anyone here give me some 2 cents
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Definitely the FT1. Olympus isn't well off to start off with. And it's not like their quality is superb. Their ISO handling is horrible.

QUOTE(bantalXP @ Jan 25 2010, 03:11 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories : superzoom or prosumer?
Budget: rm 1500
Your Location: wangsa maju
Preferable brand : canon/panasonic/nikon
Type of photography u want to do : buildings and landscape (works) and friend and family photos (portrait, beaches etc) personal
Any specific models in mind? : canon g10/11, pana lx3, nikon p90, pana fz35, canon sx20is
Any specific features u want? : none

sometimes need to take close up pictures with low light even dark, sometimes need to take pictures at the edge of roof/ceiling.
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I'd suggest the Canon Powershot G11. A friend of mine recently had this chooice to choose from too. Or you might want the SX for a superzoom. Anyway, the LX3 is a good camera, just that the G11 outdoes it. The P90, I've heard mixed reviews. I'm not exactly pleased with the image quality either.

QUOTE(CarmenYap @ Jan 26 2010, 10:20 AM)
Any recommendation for compact camera the best in the market currently.
I am looking at IXUS 200 now or anything better?
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I'd assume your budget is around RM1.2k-1.4k?

Well, there's the Panasonic Lumix FP8? Or the Canon Powershot G11, though it's a bit above budget? You might save a hundred with the Panasonic Lumix LX3 though.

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