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 Kia Forte / Nissan Latio or Toyota Vios?, Buying a new car

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saratoga
post Mar 5 2010, 11:35 PM

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By cybermaster:
But i do not think i will leave Toyota because of of these reasons:

1) build quality
2) low maintenance
3) high resale value
4) good after sales service

I think as a owner of same year Vios, I am qualified to comment:
1) build quality - not true, mine wear & tear were much faster than my another 12 years sentra.
2) low maintenance - not ture ! Outside service with better advice and quality and cheaper
3) high resale value - no comment, market driven.
4) good after sales service - not ture, they always say no time, and everytime service I must take leave, geram ;(

my comment:
1. handling - bad when try cornering then you will know, my old sentra is much better
2. interior space is a joke, wify complaint like hell.
3. cost cutting too much by Toyoda.

When 1st I saw Forte and have a seat inside, then I think who ever get vios/dugung is merely T-brand.
How can B seg car compare to C-seg car ???
Vios is a 21th century joke when compare to forte at same or higher price!!!!

saratoga
post Mar 6 2010, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 6 2010, 09:37 AM)
U know what i think? I think u DO NOT own a Toyota. I think ure a Kia salesman or somebody promoting that. Nobody who owns a Toyota will say the things u say.

Just on the point of after sales service itself i can catch you not telling the truth. Most Toyota service centres have the Early Bird Service. This allows u to leave your car the night before and it will be be the first in for service the next morning. When that happens, usually your car will be read within just a few hours unless its a major service with ATF change, fuel system flushing and aircon service which will take the whole day. Tell me where you service your car and i will check your facts. I have serviced my car in JB, KL, Puchong, Melaka, Ipoh and Penang and i have had the same good service in all these service centres.

I think its also stupid to compare authorised service centre's costs against an outside workshop. Its common knowledge that its always cheaper outside cuz they only do what u tell them to do and nothing else. So please dont make these comparisons. Im talking about ALL official car manufacturers service centres.

Interior space??? What are you comparing against? A Camry?? Again dont make silly comparisions. Vios is an entry level sedan targetted at single adults or very small families. If u want more space then go for an Altis or Camry. The rear legroom in a Vios is similar to the legroom in a Mazda 3 2.0L so does that make the Mazda 3 crap?

Build quality? Again this is why i say i know you do not own a Toyota. Or u might have thrashed your Toyota so badly that it wears a lot faster. Tell me your car number plate and where u service your Toyota and i will check and find out if you really have such problems. U can always PM me in private.

Unless you can do this and prove yourself, i suggest you keep your non-constructive comments to yourself. This forum is for ppl to share constructive critisms about cars or whatever. Nobody said Vios is a perfect car and nobody said the Forte is crap. I suggest you read ALL the posts carefully before commenting. Leave all your salesman tactics at home. It doesnt benefit anybody.

Have a nice day.
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Hello, now we compare vios, forte & latio, not camry la, bla bla bla...
I own a vios since 2003, drive a while but disappointed overall, for the price paid. If vios is selling at 50k then I will say vios is good.
Service center is a nightmare to me, can only book office hour time which mean I have to take leave always, whereas honda/nissan center is ok for Sat. I personally witnessed their so call "max-check" servis, but that just a joke ! I simply test a question to the technician who service my car, find out he knew very little about common sense things... Outside sifu is much much better/knowledgable than inside servis center.

Interior space compare to forte or latio is REALLY small, for the same price you pay for the other two, it is not justified. Why you want to pull Mazda 3 in for comparison ? Our topic just 3 cars : vios , latio , forte.

But of course money is yours, should consider many factors before decide.
My vote here goes to forte, from the below:
-simple & sleek look & elegant, and it is NOT a dugung laugh.gif
-interior space the biggest among three (of course lor, C-segment car !).
-feature banyak !
-17 " rim, yeah ! (hurt when changing tyres) drool.gif
-Shiftronic, cool ! smile.gif
-BIG boot space
-handling is good rclxms.gif
-will be a head-turner car on the road for now ! cool2.gif

Tell you all a fact:
- I am quite successful to influence my coliks to choose out T brand car, at the end majority of them go for city,forte and ...
only hardcore T brand supporters I got trouble to tell them truth, cause they are really kepala batu and have NO knowledge about car. Youngster can take what I analyse, but those old folk, kepala still love T brand, always thinking every toyota still like AE92 !
Cabut ...

This post has been edited by saratoga: Mar 6 2010, 03:25 PM
saratoga
post Mar 6 2010, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Mar 6 2010, 06:46 PM)
Why would you bought Vios in the first place?
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Because back in year 2003, the only choices are : waja, vios & city !
Again parent always want T brand, so you know lah...
After some years later, I influence back my parent(after they saw the T brand weakness these years) for the D-segment, to get H brand ! rclxm9.gif

saratoga
post Mar 7 2010, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Mar 7 2010, 05:02 PM)
In the end it's still either T or H (still Japanese). Why not get Kia Forte (or any non-jap)? Be an example yourself. wink.gif
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As I said, that is D-segment car, budget around 130-150k.

 

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