QUOTE(soradidi @ Dec 3 2009, 06:20 PM)
erm, so basically after 2005 the gear box is quite fine? 23k is a darm big number=.='', dun wan regret if buy it. as my parents very hate kia haiz i have no choice, if no i sure go for forte but not my money so i have no choice=.=(they r very rigid!) they call me decide only toyota vios or honda city, just go to the showhouse and compare this 2 feel like i have more chance going for honda city XD. But abt the gear box issue izit still common in now(after 2005)?
thanks guys for the responed

that gear box prob is for 7 speed one right?
according to Kia SA, that city gearbox created based on auto gearbox (then add shiftronic) then prone to problem.
for forte, the gearbox created based on manual gearbox (then add shiftronic). 2nd shift damn long you can achieve 100KM ++ before redline, and the RPM is 6K before redline.
so, up to everybody. haha
recent city should be okay. need to wait 2 or 3 years more before we can know any problem.