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 Kia Forte / Nissan Latio or Toyota Vios?, Buying a new car

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post Dec 3 2009, 10:24 AM

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Forte - Most feature-packed & best bang for the buck
Vios - Brand power, resale value & probably fuel efficiency
Latio - No comment
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post Dec 3 2009, 01:47 PM

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Hyundai-Kia already taken over Honda in the world as the 5th placing.
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post Dec 3 2009, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Dec 3 2009, 02:48 PM)
the power and torque similar to CPS actually...
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Power about the same, torque wise Forte's Gamma 1.6 engine slightly better.

QUOTE(Ultima @ Dec 3 2009, 03:09 PM)
cps 125, forte 126 rite? tongue.gif
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CPS' figure you got there is HP, Forte's figure there is PS. So you got a wrong comparison.
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post Dec 3 2009, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(iluvena @ Dec 3 2009, 06:29 PM)
that gear box prob is for 7 speed one right?
according to Kia SA, that city gearbox created based on auto gearbox (then add shiftronic) then prone to problem.
for forte, the gearbox created based on manual gearbox (then add shiftronic). 2nd shift damn long you can achieve 100KM ++ before redline, and  the RPM is 6K before redline.

so, up to everybody. haha
recent city should be okay. need to wait 2 or 3 years more before we can know any problem.
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The previous gen City uses CVT gearbox with emulated 7-speed. Forte is using regular 4-speed auto gearbox with shiftronic.
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post Dec 4 2009, 10:47 AM

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No point arguing people, just go & try it yourself. You will know the answer.
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post Dec 6 2009, 01:02 AM

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The CBU Carnival is really overpriced that time. When Ria came out, Carnival owners really felt the pinch.

But for the 2.0l Forte at RM 93k, even if it is fully CKDed, new price wise won't be much lower due to protection over Proton & Perodua (in fact chances are price could go higher). Use the previous Spectra as a gauge, 03 model price is still close to RM 20k now.
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post Dec 6 2009, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Dec 6 2009, 01:06 AM)
The typical classic case.

When Naza got its wings to produce CKD Forte, we'll see the actual resale value of Fortes then.

The CKD price got higher seems illogical. Which business model did you use ? Even the CKD swift sold at lower price.
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I also prayed that price can be lower once CKDed... but you can do the CBU math from prices of other countries for this Forte/Cerato. Anyway, time will tell soon.


Added on December 6, 2009, 2:07 amJust to add, cheapest manual CBU Swift Sports 1.6 now is already about RM 100k. If my memory serve me correctly, last time CBU 2005 Swift 1.5 also about RM 90k. Japanese branded aside, remember it is a much smaller segment car, smaller engine capacity, lesser in features & etc. This so called reportedly CBU 2.0l Forte is priced at RM 93k.

Anyhow lastly, we still do not know the 2.0l 1st batch delivered to customers will be CBU or CKD as per reported by some forumers & soon-to-be-owners, although chances are CBU will be higher.

This post has been edited by deeplyheartbroken: Dec 6 2009, 02:07 AM
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post Dec 6 2009, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(phelix @ Dec 6 2009, 02:10 AM)
Forte price is CKD price.
which mean 93800 is CKD price, only first few batches is CBU due to the plant is not yet fully set up.
so you guys save the gas to talk about this. (sai hei)
according to those "SA".. next year Forte price is going to increase.
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This is what I am trying to explain earlier. It may sounds like a salesman talk... but chances of it increase the price next year is there, although we may be wrong.
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post Dec 18 2009, 02:06 AM

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The brand power is really unquestionable...

 

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