erm, so basically after 2005 the gear box is quite fine? 23k is a darm big number=.='', dun wan regret if buy it. as my parents very hate kia haiz i have no choice, if no i sure go for forte but not my money so i have no choice=.=(they r very rigid!) they call me decide only toyota vios or honda city, just go to the showhouse and compare this 2 feel like i have more chance going for honda city XD. But abt the gear box issue izit still common in now(after 2005)?
thanks guys for the responed

U really think City and Vios is gonna go down the drain just cuz of the Forte? So it means after they launch the Mazda2 it will become much worse for City and Vios? Common my friend. Have u been monitoring market statistics and sentiments?


The only way Toyota or Honda's sales can come down is when a MAJORITY of car buyers whift the focus to other makes. As long as u have only a handful saying this and that, nothing will change. If the Korean cars want to compete with the Japs they need to do the following:

1) Improve their after sales service standards
2) Reduce the cost of maintenance