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 Kia Forte / Nissan Latio or Toyota Vios?, Buying a new car

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post Dec 3 2009, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(iluvena @ Dec 3 2009, 06:29 PM)
that gear box prob is for 7 speed one right?
according to Kia SA, that city gearbox created based on auto gearbox (then add shiftronic) then prone to problem.
for forte, the gearbox created based on manual gearbox (then add shiftronic). 2nd shift damn long you can achieve 100KM ++ before redline, and  the RPM is 6K before redline.

so, up to everybody. haha
recent city should be okay. need to wait 2 or 3 years more before we can know any problem.
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The previous gen City uses CVT gearbox with emulated 7-speed. Forte is using regular 4-speed auto gearbox with shiftronic.
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QUOTE(soradidi @ Dec 3 2009, 06:20 PM)
as my parents very hate kia haiz i have no choice, if no i sure go for forte but not my money so i have no choice=.=(they r very rigid!) they call me decide only toyota vios or honda city,
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Kia car have come along way. Too bad your parents got bad experiences.
Too bad also now they are blinded by their hatred and Naza the company that brings in Kia branded cars are not helping to improve the Rakyat's prejudice.
Then it is your parents hard earn money buying B-segment cars when they could have bought C-segment car for the same price.
Any way you wont be able to get Forte till next year...maybe only after CNY!
Cos the queue is building up!

QUOTE(victoryong @ Dec 3 2009, 12:47 PM)
To be honest. Comparing Forte with Vios, Latio or City is not fair. Forte should be compared with Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla Altis, Mazda 3 and Ford Focus. Forte is a C-segment car. The other cars you mentioned are B-segment. But price range wise Forte is the same with B-segment..

Lastly, go test drive the cars..
PS: Hyundai owned Kia
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post Dec 3 2009, 07:03 PM

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Totota Vios (love the brown color)
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post Dec 4 2009, 04:01 AM

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Actually the honda gearbox problem was cause by the honda sc fault of using regular automatic oil instead of specialised cvt oil. So dont say honda gearbox no good, its just human error that causes that. Nway i support forte, in the states the forte is competing head on with honda civic in the same segment
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post Dec 4 2009, 04:57 AM

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Totota Vios better.
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post Dec 4 2009, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(pcang79 @ Dec 4 2009, 04:57 AM)
Totota Vios better.
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In what sense?
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post Dec 4 2009, 08:44 AM

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yeah vios better in what sense???
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post Dec 4 2009, 09:51 AM

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ya lor.. vios is B segment car.. Forte is C segment car..
so you can compare between Forte and Civic.

I took 2.0 Forte price and 2.0 Civic price okay?
forte cost you rm93K whereby civic cost you rm110K

if you afraid of second value, have you consider how much Japs car (civic) conned you? thats almost 20K! interior wise and gadget, forte win hands down. only drawback is the 4 speed gear box for malaysian market.

you already lose 20K for the much 2nd value issue if you buy civic instead of forte.

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post Dec 4 2009, 10:07 AM

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For me I will choose Forte.
Vios and City like very the common on the road. Looks to me like everyone own one. Nothing special already.
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post Dec 4 2009, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(gohkokho @ Dec 4 2009, 10:07 AM)
For me I will choose Forte.
Vios and City like very the common on the road. Looks to me like everyone own one. Nothing special already.
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But eventually there will be many fortes around the road as well by mid of next year. wink.gif
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post Dec 4 2009, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(iluvena @ Dec 3 2009, 12:43 PM)
forte 1.6SX only rm81800 la.

forte definitely worth for your bucks (if you dont mind on 2nd value)
but if the car selling like hot cakes, no worry on 2nd value arrr..

vios maybe 2nd value is higher now, but u dunno in 4 or 5 years time.

so up to u actually.
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This doesn't do the justice.

You are comparing a proven product against a newly launched model.

Vios / City have been marketed since 2003 and do you realise what year is it now ?

Hyundai/Inokom Getz has been around for quite sometime and we can see it a lot on the road too. When it was launched, everybody said it's best bang for the buck against the Honda Jazz. So, does it fetch a good resale value now ?

QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Dec 3 2009, 06:30 PM)
no srsly, press every part of the kia and it gives better feel than the vios and city whistling.gif
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Gauging using feelings ?

I prefer a quantitative combined with qualitative values. smile.gif

There's a reason why they used hard plastics in the SEA based model other than cost measured partly because they know we live below the equator line and the sun shining bright all seasons.


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post Dec 4 2009, 10:34 AM

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post Dec 4 2009, 10:47 AM

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No point arguing people, just go & try it yourself. You will know the answer.
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post Dec 4 2009, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Dec 4 2009, 10:32 AM)
This doesn't do the justice.

You are comparing a proven product against a newly launched model.

Vios / City have been marketed since 2003 and do you realise what year is it now ?

Hyundai/Inokom Getz has been around for quite sometime and we can see it a lot on the road too. When it was launched, everybody said it's best bang for the buck against the Honda Jazz. So, does it fetch a good resale value now ?
Gauging using feelings ?

I prefer a quantitative combined with qualitative values.  smile.gif

There's a reason why they used hard plastics in the SEA based model other than cost measured partly because they know we live below the equator line and the sun shining bright all seasons.
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the car can have very good plastic or steel but if the steel is like sitting in the tank or some shit rubbish dumpster, no thanks smile.gif
quantitative + qualitative is on paper stuff.. bang them on the wall that is real value biggrin.gif
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post Dec 4 2009, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Dec 4 2009, 01:00 PM)
the car can have very good plastic or steel but if the steel is like sitting in the tank or some shit rubbish dumpster, no thanks smile.gif
quantitative + qualitative is on paper stuff.. bang them on the wall that is real value biggrin.gif
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Frankly, I never expected you to come out with this answer. It doesn't sound intellect enough.

Anyhow, whatever you say smile.gif
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post Dec 5 2009, 11:16 PM

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I have test drive City, Latio Sedan, Suzuki SX4,Vios and Forte since mid of the year... At the end, i choose FORTE 1.6SX. Feel lucky that i do not need any cents from mum/dad to make decision laugh.gif
GO GO FORTE !

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QUOTE(ssek76 @ Dec 5 2009, 11:16 PM)
I have test drive City, Latio Sedan, Suzuki SX4,Vios and Forte since mid of the year... At the end, i choose FORTE 1.6SX. Feel lucky that i do not need any cents from mum/dad to make decision  laugh.gif
GO GO FORTE !
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post Dec 6 2009, 12:48 AM

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Korean cars are worth it if bought as 2nd hand. My 2002 Kia Carnival sold for RM 30k after 6 years... sigh... bought at RM 170k then.

Now, never buy Korean or China cars when new. Used, ok.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Dec 6 2009, 12:48 AM)
Korean cars are worth it if bought as 2nd hand. My 2002 Kia Carnival sold for RM 30k after 6 years... sigh... bought at RM 170k then.

Now, never buy Korean or China cars when new. Used, ok.
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never buy forte that been list as one of nominee world car of the year 2010??? brows.gif
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post Dec 6 2009, 01:02 AM

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The CBU Carnival is really overpriced that time. When Ria came out, Carnival owners really felt the pinch.

But for the 2.0l Forte at RM 93k, even if it is fully CKDed, new price wise won't be much lower due to protection over Proton & Perodua (in fact chances are price could go higher). Use the previous Spectra as a gauge, 03 model price is still close to RM 20k now.

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