Climategate and the recent IPCC conference in Denmark highlighted some major points - that there isn't a uniform consensus on AGW, and that the developed nations are using this as an excuse to strangle the developing nations by using fear-mongering to subdue less-developed nations.

Carbon-capping will prevent the industrialization of the less-developed nations. Carbon taxes, carbon trading etc. will some day be just like energy futures and become something that's market-driven rather than being based on real science.

Somehow, there are humans who are so stupid as to think that puny humans can change the world's climate with our doing, when a majority of the planet's surface in terms of volume and area are the oceans (which has hardly any human presence). A single volcano eruption is more powerful than a 1000 hiroshima nukes. A single underwater earthquake is more energetic than a few hundred thousand of the world's most powerful nuclear warheads.

And we think our industrialization will bring about the end of the world?

Our industrialization did bring about changes to the environment but when the Earth's climate changes naturally, it'll be much more than what humans are capable of. Look at the 70s, when there was a global cooling and everyone's afraid of a new "Little Ice Age". From WW2 until the 70s, for more than 3 decades, we were on a crazy industrialization drive.

Pollution was copious, there's no carbon-capping.. manufacturing processes were still being improved and no doubt, plenty of CO2 has been emitted. And yet, the Earth cooled! For 3 decades!!

How do we also explain the fact that the atmospheres of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn recorded an average increase of 0.5 degrees in the past 20 years or so? Human colonies spewing CO2 and greenhouse gases into their atmospheres?

This post has been edited by jswong: Dec 22 2009, 02:50 PM