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eddie2020
post Dec 9 2020, 03:04 PM

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Hi all, i going to paint a new vacant unit.. Developer use the normal dulux maxlite /a300 matt white for current one from what I heard..

I plan to paint another white layer, any paint should I go and what step should I take?
1.should I just buy any paint and paint over the current developer provided unit? Any recommendation? As I see like over hundred of choice with diff name cracks my head off
2.anyone use spray/hvlp? I saw online it cost like 100-500.. Thinking to buy it and use instead of using those paint brush which use alot of space and tiring. Any comment on this.
eddie2020
post Dec 10 2020, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 10 2020, 12:57 PM)
Are you gonna hack in new socket/AC pipe/AC power here and there? Do those wet work first. Then lastly paint.
Painting is easy if you have the right tools and a properly sized ladder (not 5 feet nonsense) w.r.t wall height.

How good do you need the paint to be? If good paint for whole apartment circa 1k exclude materials maybe about 200 exclude ladder. Labour your ownself.

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Ya already find someone to do hacking for those socket, once they plaster it i will paint.. maybe for aircond i dont care, i just ask them to install aircond after i paint my wall.
If not i need to mask the aircond for painting work.

What is proper ladder? haha i have around 5ft ladder.. but in the past i help my friend we used 1 long stick to tie with the roller.
I not sure what type of the good paint and price range, my painting should be around 900 sqft interior only.
Any advice and recommendation? Paint to thinner ratio is 3:1 ?
Paint requirement i think most likely the same for all people? which is glossy smooth and long lasting?
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eddie2020
post Dec 11 2020, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 10 2020, 11:49 PM)
Some people just use the cheapest available paints laugh.gif
Aircond one if conceal pipe (copper and drain) already ready then no need hack. Otherwise same issue also.. u still gotta repaint that trench.

Wall paint two coat at 90:10 (just add a splash of water) will not be runny, if you put too much water the paint will drip everywhere.
Elcheapo is super matex - entry level RM35/7L fixed 15 colour
Standard custom colour (mix with machine) is around 90-100/5L for Nippon Easywash

Generally, 5L tong will cover two coats undiluted of a long wall (use about 4L+ for one long living room wall of 8m length x 2.4m height), balance can use on smaller wall area with doors and windows.

From experience the legs are stronger than the hands (easier to climb up) and do nicely rather than trying to hold long stick and press into the wall. Small roller easier to use (less splattering). Big roller is used for speed work but splatter more. Prep work like taping up the border area near ceiling and other stuff like door frames using the nippon skyblue colour washi tape is important to achieve nice lines and reduce oops cleanup case.
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Those matte type 3x rm per 7litre is what developer provide if not mistaken.
I could not find much info on these paint..
How is those RM3x matte compared to those glosy/easy wash which range around 90 to 100+ ? Cleaning easier with the expensive one?
my living height its around 3m+ which i think might use more, i will try to get 5l and test..

In my case i no need to get any primer and sealer right? I only need go to choose my top coat, and on the painting day, i use some sponge and wipe the whole current wall incase there is dust and start painting?

my old experience on helping my friend ,small roller is tiring as it takes more time, and i watch some video they mention to use normal brush to paint those edge area and side of the wall as roller unable to cover perfectly. maybe i shall try it..


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post Dec 11 2020, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 11 2020, 03:34 AM)
Decent developer most likely use the cheapest project price maxilite or equivalent.
Some crappy project that I went to, they use "fui sui" that is not even paint / some sort of white powder crap that when you put tape for 30 mins and wanna remove the tape, instead of tape only being removed, whole strip of the fui sui fake paint come off. No need to bother gently removing as its an impossible task.

Elcheapo paint I used:
the 35/7L fixed colour one use for cheap coverage of things like community hall refurbishment CSR project only  laugh.gif in apple green.
some no name light yellow to touch up 30 year old house for resale  laugh.gif
some cheapo gloss paint in brick red to paint over old roof edge (roof tiles) for 15 bucks/1L.. wrong purpose but kinda works "just to sell"
whole house repaint (sand down to cement to remove 30 year old paint), cheapo no name sealer, then KCC or matex white 20L tubs

As for personal long term use:
To cover over puttied surface use interior sealer to seal the putty, then only put matex over.
To cover over developer paint, just use 2 coats of the Easywash custom colour.
Easy wash can just wipe with damp cloth to remove dust. If cement dust from drilling - better vacuum the wall and use dry cloth only, otherwise grey cement will stick to the wall.
Gloss paint for walls.. ideally used for very well done surface (skim to perfection) or as a last resort in oily kitchen area or for heavy joss stick user (until ceiling all brown condition). Because the gloss really amplify all the imperfection if your wall is not perfectly flat. Hence most people use matte paint for walls.

Small roller give more even coat (in my experience) and cheaper to just throw away the refills. This one doesnt splatter much and technically if the edges taped up nicely can go 99% of the way and the few dots u can brush in or gently use the roller side also can.

Big roller you must buy the correct handle that is centered otherwise you will really have miserable time using it. Also big roller refill cost more. You'll need to spread like 2 rows of newspaper for the floor as it will splatter more.
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sealer is no needed if my surface don't have any hole right?
So i just get a matte easy wash type and before paint i just wipe the surface with some damp cloth.

Then for the roller i think i will go for the conventional, previous i considered this below, not sure did anyone use.. but it seems alot bad comment.https://shopee.com.my/Ready-Stock-Smart-Paint-Roller-Set-Clever-Paintbrush-i.27269204.4033654116

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post Jan 23 2021, 06:07 PM

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My contractor finally finish my hse work..
It's new hse come with dev paint matt white however when I touch it a little chalky..
So I going do below please gv me your view..
Use 2 coat of sealer
https://www.nipponpaint.com.my/products/sea...400-Wall-Sealer
Then another 2 coat of topcoat
https://www.nipponpaint.com.my/products/topcoat/EasyWash

Am I correct or I do it wrongly?
Aside from paint the wall with above I also want to paint my plaster ceiling with same paint.. Please let me know some comment
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post Jan 23 2021, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(PaintPals @ Jan 23 2021, 08:00 PM)
For Nippon Paint products, if it is not very chalky then use

1 coat of 5200 Wall Sealer
2 coats of Easywash or other finishing as per your preference

If it is very chalky/powdery, I would advise using solvent base sealer such as Hi-bond wall sealer or 5170 acrylic wall sealer to replace 5200 wall sealer. However you have to ensure good air flow for your house and nobody staying in it for some times as solvent based paint can be really smelly.
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Oh, so wall sealer 1 coat is sufficient? possible i paint it and leave it 2hr then i paint easywash? since the recoating spec is min 2hr..

Another thing, the wall sealer have alot number but i see website looks ntg diff from description.. 5200 and 5400, while 5200 expensive 50% compare to 5400.
While 5170 is more expensive, its like finishing easy wash price.. i think mine not so chalky till need 5170 haha.. So i just wonder why choose 5200 over 5400? notworthy.gif

 

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