Oh. sorry, my badd. it was merely an assumption. i was kinda goin with the rules for dog certification. hybrid dun get cert. coz logically, it is a hybrid and it's not easy to track back or even sustain the bloodline.

hmmm, wonder how fish cert works... by merely farm, or by bloodline(or whatever the term is for fish).

Well as a closure, my arowana was sold. Just the fish alone. Got a good offer from a farm for RM 2.3 K. So i let it go.. Now what's left is, to move home, upgrade tank, and buy a red aro.. but in the mean time. i bought tires with the sold money

Lexani

Tire made in Asia
LX9000 285/30 R22 101V



With us only $ 125.00

Type of Tire: Summer tires
XL (Extra Load)

Sidewall: BSW (Black sidewall)
UTQG: 420-A-A
Speedindex: V: the tire's speed capacity is up to 149 mph/240 km/h !

similar tires are sold for rm1400 per piece but i got all 4 for RM 2K from america.


Well, i'll be back with red aro updates. in the meantime, a pair of 18" spotted gars will fill my current tank, together with it's current occupants a foot long ornate bichir, 2 tinfoil barbs(7" and 5" lampam), 2 lemon fin barbs(7" and 5" kerai), a 8"sailfin pleco and a 4" striped raphael catfish.

This post has been edited by moe81: Apr 6 2010, 11:40 AM

Hahahaha.. current tank is 4x2x2. the pleco, bichir and the catfish are all bottom dwellers. the only moving middle level fishes are the four barbs. and the gars are more towards top middle and they dun quite move as fast as arowana does. so i guess it shud be an ok comm. LOL

i was thinkin of getting a 6x3 tank for my future red. let's just wait and see how things go.

hmm not sure bout the brine shrimp.. but about the scale, i think the one scale came out.. it's not a big deal, since ur aro is still small the will be replaced by a new one..

i realised it becomes a problem when the aro is in adult stage. the scale grows back pretty fast, but it takes months for color to develop on the new scale. untill then, that one scale will be dark, and stand out.
but after months, when it's fully developed it looks flawless. not a sign..

hey guys.

i'm posting three pics below. the first two, u guys have already seen.. the last pic is one i took just before my fish was sold. just for comparison of the progress of it's coloration..

sorry bro. i have no idea bout the yellow powder. never used it before.

ur cucumber idea is pretty good. come to think about it, it's brilliant. but here's what i know. when i was living back in the US, i have used the pleco pellets. they are green in color , it looks sorta dics like but it's not totally flat. sorta concave on one side and convex on the other. hope u get the drift. it's about the diameter of 20 cents. this pellets sink,and the nature of the design makes it almost impossible for other fish to eat it besides pleco of course.

here are some pics i found on the internet:







the thing is that i have no idea where to buy it here in malaysia. i have tried looking for it over here in a few lfs, never had any luck. so, here is the info i have and i hope if anyone finds it or have seen t before can share wih everyone in here. thanks.

sorry ben if my post is not much of a help.


\LOL..

oh man, that's a fcukin bummer... i'm sorry i cudn't be of a greater help to you earlier on. now how u wish u cud turn back time.

LOL.. y so suspicious wan? it is really me. no pretends.

if u're a dog lover, especially pitbull fan, check this APBT thread below. u can see gazillion of my posts. pretty much a sole provider for the thread. LOL. i have posts up to the last page. do check it out. sorry off topic.

APBT Thread


p.s. even the snake pics i posted in earlier pages in this thread was me too. no joke.

This post has been edited by moe81: Apr 7 2010, 02:37 PM

Hahahahaha... LOL . let's change the name of this thread from aro thread to perf thread.. ROTFFLMFAO.....hahahaha..

hmm, red 2? dun't quite get the term.. i've heard of grade 1.5 red aro.. and of course the first grade red(super reds).

i'm not sure bout red 2 or grade 2 red.. but the price 600 is pretty much equivalent for a banjar red.. is that wat u meant by red 2?

please do provide more info.

Bro to be honest with you, it's pretty subjective when it comes to the sub-quality of the REDS (i.e. grade 2, grade 1.5, banjar red, yellow tail).

when i said subjective, i mean the source of classification. who bred it? who classified it? is it really gonna turn out lookin like grade 2 red? how does even a grade 2 looks like when it's grown. for argument sakes, is it really guranteed how the arowana gonna end up? it gets pretty confusing when more and more sub-quality hybrids are being introduced to the market. even the source of the fish is pretty questionable.

if u ask me, i'd rather go for a more promising HBRTG than any other quality of reds except the superior 1st grade red.

HBRTG is a hybrid. RTG crossed with crossback. hence it's gold raises higher vertically through the scales than a normal RTG.

Heres somethin i found on internet while googling: the clasification of aros:



Varieties

The Asian Arowana comes in different colour variations: green, red and gold although further variants have been produced through cross breeding to satisfy the ornamental fish trade.Currently Asian Arowana can be categorised in the following varieties:

Green Arowana
Banjar Red (Red Grade 2, Red Grade 1.5, Yellow Tail Green)
Red Tail Golden Arowana
Golden Crossback Arowana
Tong Yang
Red Grade 1 Arowana (Super Red, Chilli Red, Blood Red)

so, according to the web, all grade 2 red, grade 1.5 red, yellow tail are classified as banjar red..

now this has also been my understanding for the past 4 years since my aro interest deepened.

BUT, if u ask the local lfs owner, he'd probably say otherwise.. now, who's right and who's wrong?

very subjective!!!

dinner time is a great time...LOL...

waiting to see pics.. pls do share.. dun cheat cheat us ok..

and congrats on ur purchase..

This tip maybe be a help for some of us looking to feed our arowana with house gecko. it's a method of catchin geckos i've used before to feed baby vipers that's i've kept before..

u'll need, a tall pail(bout 2 feet), cricket (for rm1) and some cooking oil(or any oil for that matter).

u'll need to apply the cooking oil on the inner wall of the pail. leave about 4 inch at the bottom and smutther the rest with oil up to the top. put the crickets inside the pail and place the pail standing against any wall(preferably where lotsa gecko are usually seen).

what happens is, the gecko will climb down the pail to have some munchies. the oil on the pail wall surface breaks vacumm between the geckos feet and the wall. so, the gecko can't climb out. leave it overnight, u might get around 6 geckos if u're lucky..

good question.. i never really washed the oil off since i was feedin it to snakes.. LOL.. i suppose if u quratine the cicak for a couple of days, the oil wud probably just DISAPPEAR!

but there won't be much oil anyway on the cicak.. none was noticable..

WTT- white tank treatment. is done by painting the outside of the glass with white paint. gloss paint i suppose. it has been discussed here before. WTT gives more shine to the gold and black background tank give more intensity to the gold.

but the effect is pretty much temporary. if u move ur fish to different background, the shine or the intensity change. i believe, as the fish matures it's gold shine will too. there's no short cut to increase the shine of ur fish.

i'm not quite sure bout tip no 2.. never heard about that before..

but tip no 3 on the contrary is pretty subjective.. if u gon clean ur fish tank every week for the rest of ur fishes life. then be my guest. but if u miss a week or 2 sudden amonium and nitrite explosion may occur in ur tank..

but if u want a hastle free fish keeping hobby, i suggest u establish a good nitrogen cycle in ur tank and good water conditions. where u let the good bacterias do all the dirty work for u..

This post has been edited by moe81: Apr 23 2010, 03:46 PM

Hmm, i think they utter bullshit most of the time. every arowana has scale coloring which is classified as the type (i.e. red, mg, rtg, green ect.)
and every arowana also has a disticntive base color. sometimes it's the same color as the scale color. hence, the Royal Gold, an mg with gold base color. even green aros has different base colors. i guess u get my drift..

I've postes this a couple of times but arowana enthusiast here seem to have a lil hard time gettin it into their head. cross back is a classification only for the goldens aka MGs. these are the actual cross backs. hence, cross back golden.

the reds are just reds. the term cross back doesn't apply to the reds(super, chilli or blood), rtg, green, yellow tail or banjar. it's a classification exclusively for the MG. how much it crosses towards the head is entirely depends on the quality.

few decades past, and a new term leaped into the world of arowana. the high back. mind u guys, the term high back has nothin to do with its body shape or hump like thing towards the dorsal base of the head.

now we have the cheaper version of gold, the RTG. and then there's this superior version of gold which is the MG. now some where along the way some knuckle head thought, what happens if we cross these two just for the fcuk of it. to see if we can get the 4th level scale shine of the rtg a tad bit higher so we can call it something else and sell it for higher price than the regular rtg.

so, the shine level did get a lil higher up to 5th, and some even higher than that but won't cross. and they decided to call it the HB RTG(high back red tail golden).

So, the conclusion is: the term high back is exclusive for the rtg mg cross but not other types. so, the HBs are all hybrids. A fresh HB hybrib is again crossed with an MG to even the raise the shine level. hence the term super high back emerged.

does that answer the question for most of U?

p.s. i believe the term spoon head has somethin to do with hump like thing on the arowana. if u think about it, it's pretty much a defect which turned out looking good on the aros. works for me.