zomg...Joanne Yeoh? can't be, time and date is not correct, but strikingly similar...

hmm, 8 years of boredom, you mean?

winner,

there're probably too many replies for you to read. perhaps, if you happened to read my post, let me give you a suggestion.

reading all your posts, i realize one thing, that you always talk about how you feel, but not how she feel. it clearly shows that, you don't even know how she feels. and this, alone, shows that you don't have any love for her. not because you don't love her, it's because you don't even know what is love.

love is very simple. it takes a heart, to know another heart. you never try to understand her, that's your mistake.

tell me, what you cannot buy even if you're as rich as the richest man in the world?

"time"

give her time, that's all she want. not give her "her time", give her "your time". she gave hers, but you never give her any...

but then, that's already the past. what you need to do is, to give your future gf/wife more time. money is a must for living, and time is a must for love. not to say money is not important, you just have to balance that out.

This post has been edited by little ice: Nov 30 2009, 02:07 PM

and i'd like to add that, you cannot force her to go back to your side, by telling her "i will listen to you this time, please come back".

she will never go back to you. that is because she will never convinced by "talk only". if you truely want her back, visit her often, go out for lunch/dinner with her often. you'll never know how happy she is, e.g. when you wait her for 1 hour (when she's teaching), just to hang out with her for a simple dinner yes, it means you don't need to spend $$$$ for a big and luxurious dinner, as simple as bak kut teh or wantan mee is plenty. moreover, if you don't spend big on her, she'll even think that you're willing to "lower your rank", and willing to live in her world.

the point is, you're a gentleman, if you want to ask something from a girl, give her something first.

still don't understand? chase her back!

This post has been edited by little ice: Nov 30 2009, 02:16 PM

that's more than enough. it's the root point of being understanding, that is so simple yet so many people not able to catch the point.

anyway all the best chasing her back!

regarding seducing, Winner you probably never notice one thing - she want commitment. and commitment means she want your time, your entire life.

i sort of understand how it feels like when Winner is facing his father. at this point, i sympathize TS's situation.

as a son, you cannot just do whatever you like. as a son, you cannot just run all out just for a girl. it's very hard to make a decision. those who never have this experience before of course can talk very easy.

on the other hand, there's no single father/mother in the world will make use of the son like a machine or tool. i believe, deep down in TS father's heart, he just want him to not make a failed step in his life. not the best way to show his love, but nevertheless, he's trying to give the best to his son.

Winner, at this point, i can't give you definite suggestion on the "correct" path. things might or might not work out, and you might spend another few years and end up nothing. but most important thing is, if you truely love her, you shouldn't feel regret whatsoever.

and who we are to critique? have you been through the same situation? being the only son, living under a business oriented + very strict (perhaps very traditional) family?

it's his family. we shouldn't comment. because we will always begin with our own insight, rather than knowing his family enough to form a conclusion. unless you know TS that well to give bold statements.

This post has been edited by little ice: Nov 30 2009, 06:27 PM

yes but have YOU experienced it?


yup, but it seems like you're making conclusions than comments...



it's actually a pretty common problem - father/mother versus gf. the hardest thing is to find a proper balance.

anyway, in short, all you need is time. at the moment, you certainly don't need to rush things. start off with getting in touch with your ex, politely ask for a lunch or dinner. maybe once or twice a week. just remember don't rush, take your time.

ok, guess we don't share the same view on this, and it's leading nowhere, i shall stop here.

in the end, i believe TS is mature enough to come out with a way to sort things out. besides, let's focus on his relationship rather than his family, which already lead to a temporary end here and i'm looking forward to Winner's stories.

This post has been edited by little ice: Nov 30 2009, 07:19 PM

and i believe you can kill your father just because he freakin lock you up for not letting you go to see your beloved gf?

all i see 90% flaming all the way...

Winner, i totally can feel how you felt. you did the right thing, that you no longer force her to follow you. yes, let the fate decide everything, do keep in touch with her often.

by the way, just have some words for you. being together with her might not be the best option (and who knows), like now you're in NZ and she's in MY. what are the chance of seeing each other often? let alone having a simple dinner every now and then.

the most beautiful thing is memories and stories between you and her - the love story will last forever, in your heart. so don't feel bad at all if things don't work out as you wished, life has got so many other meaningful things waiting for you to experience! it's all the stories (点点滴滴) passed through your life, be it happy or sad, you shouldn't let the past stop you from living on a colourful and brilliant life.

of course, all the best to your love story! i'll be very happy to see if she choose to go back to you (and make sure you do the right thing)!

one of the few mature comments ever made, and speaking deep down from the heart. hats off to you!

it takes time buddy, it takes time...

don't even try to rush a wee bit, you'll mess everything up. meanwhile, focus on something else, good news will come to you unexpectedly.

actually, i don't agree with all of them.

reason? lazy to write down...

actually, i also suspect TS story make up one (due to our legendary ihatekiasuppl who create multiple account and spam made up stories).

but, whatever. i'm free, even if it's fake, i'd play!

it's easy. ask mod check IP address, see whether from NZ or not, and the time frame between MY and NZ...

it's funny to see people argue over the matter of Winner being real or not, in a place where almost everyone remain anonymous - you can't even be sure who's troll, who's fake, and who's real. How some people here can make bold statements is beyond me...

once again, i can see lots of members who remained anonymous challenged Winner to reveal his true identity.

all of us are fakes!