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 A love story from busy guy, My failed relationship

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Bishop
post Nov 30 2009, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 30 2009, 12:31 PM)
Winner, please accept and agree of the comment I give you, please admit that you do not love her. Please do not make me being harsh to you as all this while I have been so gentle to you in words.

Ok, now you said you want her back. But from the way, steps and procedures you have got in mind to approach her back is really really childish. You are not a mature man, mentally immature.

Have you ever thought of sitting down, stay calm and reallly think which to go first, who to talk to and what to do, list down the sequence of your plan?

And yeah, I don't think you'd still love her and want her back. You're saying that you want her back is because you feel guilty and you want to patch back to compensate or restart the relationship or something like that.

You are an idiot in love.
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(in retrospect, he is still a virgin therefore still a child, so cant blame his childishness)



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post Nov 30 2009, 12:53 PM

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please post constructive replies rather than o0o him....
don't keep telling him he's wrong, suggest how he can improve = )

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post Nov 30 2009, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 12:49 PM)
Thanks for the ray of hope. I know I was wrong in the past, but I loved her more than anyone else, for this I could guarantee, at the bottom of my heart.

I would just go empty handed, probably rent a proton wira or waja from friend, and get everything as simple as possible.   

She is always my lover. I love her dearly. I'll change my attitude, never angry and abusive, never get drunk and talk stupid thing.

No, education level has nothing to do with love. Rich or poor, all are the same.
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PLEASE DONT. vmad.gif

Leave her alone. She has suffered enough. You will not change.

Change is from within. You are still concern with money and appearence.

"go empty handed"??!
"Rent a proton or waja"??!!

You are still thinking that she is acting like this because you are rich and educated but she is not.

So please, please, please LEAVE HER ALONE.


Added on November 30, 2009, 12:59 pm
QUOTE(Hammond Tan @ Nov 30 2009, 12:53 PM)
please post constructive replies rather than o0o him....
don't keep telling him he's wrong, suggest how he can improve = )
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I am sorry, but there are times when you must know when it will not work and cut your losses. It is hard, very hard, but it is something that must be done rather than to prolong the suffering.

Perhaps telling him how to improve his next relationship but not this one anymore. After a while he will revert back to his old abusive, drunk self. So the girl have suffered enough for 8 years. Let her be happy for the other 50 years left...

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TStheWinner
post Nov 30 2009, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Nov 30 2009, 12:55 PM)
PLEASE DONT. vmad.gif

Leave her alone. She has suffered enough. You will not change.

Change is from within. You are still concern with money and appearence.

"go empty handed"??!
"Rent a proton or waja"??!!

You are still thinking that she is acting like this because you are rich and educated but she is not.

So please, please, please LEAVE HER ALONE.
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Didn't you hear stylish had been there? She said my GF still love me! She cares about me, sending me wishes during my birthday.

Yes, I'm not perfect. But, I'll be the best for her!
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post Nov 30 2009, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(skysherly @ Nov 29 2009, 09:22 AM)
Well, there isn't anyone is right or wrong in relationship stuff. Turn a look into it, you were expecting her to be understanding to you but she is just an ordinary girl who expecting the bf to be there for her whenever she needs some companion. For you, she is disturbing and annoying but have you really think of her? I don't intend to side anyone, it's just, I guess we should learn to see things from both sides which will be better.

If busy is the only excuse for you unable to get a gf, then it's really funny that what makes you think those busy businessmen able to get a happy family? We all have 24 hours per day, it is all depends on us how do we want to spend it with people around us and as well our work. If the first relationship issue couldn't work out, there's still second and third to come, most important, learn from every single mistake that you've made in the past relationship, affirm yourself it doesn't happen anymore.
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totally agree on this..
TS.. yes u can be so smart n so busy with ur work earning wat? 10k? 20k? per month??
for me.. i can feel ur feel..cause i'm in ur shoe before.. back from oversea n helping up my dad in business..
she waited me for 3~4 years while im in Aus.
and yet..sometimes i do feel she's abit "mah fan" cause i got so many things to do..
but after i came across an artical.. only i realise, that im way too selfish..
i only care about her when i need her.. on the other hand, she need me too..but i didnt realise untill i awake myself from wat im doing n trying to bring back our relationship.
Girls is "unpredictable" .. s small things/matter (in our eyes) can be a big things for them,.
a call from u when u r busy n ask " r u ok 2day" ? would actually make them feel being care.. that is wat girls is and are.!
i think if u (TS) when ur gf call u n ask " ru ok 2day" when u r busy..surely u will feel she's just too free to disturb u huh??
think back TS.. she need ur love n care too! u wasted her 9 years time!! that's their most precious time! $ cant bring back their precious time, esp (19~25)!!
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post Nov 30 2009, 01:08 PM

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if feels no time for love, then dont try to love anyone. if in love, put her above everything else, yes i mean everything.

in order for love to suceed, u need to give and just give. sacrifices, adjustments, etc.

everyone elses are also are busy with job, family, hobbies, etc. so its normal, just how u cope with it all.

love fails when it falls down the priority list, and gets subsitituted. so to make sure it survive, keep it at the top of the list


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post Nov 30 2009, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 01:01 PM)
Didn't you hear stylish had been there? She said my GF still love me! She cares about me, sending me wishes during my birthday.

Yes, I'm not perfect. But, I'll be the best for her!
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Whether she loves you or not is not relavant. She needs to be LOVED. You are not able to do that. Your definition of love is too juvenile. So please if you really love her. Let her go.


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post Nov 30 2009, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 01:01 PM)
Didn't you hear stylish had been there? She said my GF still love me! She cares about me, sending me wishes during my birthday.

Yes, I'm not perfect. But, I'll be the best for her!
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She still love u is 1 thing but patch back together is another thing.. plz leave her alone she deserve someone who hv the same background n love her... can u assure that once getting back those problem wont comes back and hunt u anymore?

Take off ur own shoes n stand in her shoes n THINKING..


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post Nov 30 2009, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 01:01 PM)
Didn't you hear stylish had been there? She said my GF still love me! She cares about me, sending me wishes during my birthday.

Yes, I'm not perfect. But, I'll be the best for her!
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Again, here shows how idiot you are. I mean the way you think. You want other's words to assure you that she'd still love you?

Again, we have just said you are too selfish. I know your intention to patch back is out of good will. BUT, have you ever tried to first figure out if she wants to patch back?

Seriously, you're immature.
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Passion has to be nurtured.

If everything can be achieved via dough, that is no life, but a "choreographed" acting.
TStheWinner
post Nov 30 2009, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(gidlcin @ Nov 30 2009, 01:05 PM)
totally agree on this..
TS.. yes u can be so smart n so busy with ur work earning wat? 10k? 20k? per month??
for me.. i can feel ur feel..cause i'm in ur shoe before..  back from oversea n helping up my dad in business..
she waited me for 3~4 years while im in Aus.
and yet..sometimes i do feel she's abit "mah fan" cause i got so many things to do..
but after i came across an artical.. only i realise, that im way too selfish..
i only care about her when i need her.. on the other hand, she need me too..but i didnt realise untill i awake myself from wat im doing n trying to bring back our relationship.
Girls is  "unpredictable" .. s small things/matter (in our eyes) can be a big things for them,.
a call from u when u r busy n ask " r u ok 2day" ? would actually make them feel being care.. that is wat girls is and are.!
i think if u (TS) when ur gf call u n ask " ru ok 2day" when u r busy..surely u will feel she's just too free to disturb u huh??
think back TS.. she need ur love n care too! u wasted her 9 years time!! that's their most precious time! $ cant bring back their precious time, esp (19~25)!!
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You speak my mind! You were exactly telling about my past.

We men rarely read any magazine. Article that has to do with relationship and love could never interest me. All I read are technical and business stuff.

I felt she was "mah fan", but then, now I lost her, I felt what she did was not "mah fan" anymore! I now realize I need to survive with that mah fan, and I'm dying for that sad.gif

Even if she was testing me through her break up suggestion, which I failed miserably, I will never get angry like in the past. She always has good intention. I only realise long after the "testing" incidence that I should thank her. I'm sure she will be the first who concern about me if she found I'm weak. But, I was angry with her out of my ego, how dummy I am cry.gif
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QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 01:18 PM)
We men rarely read any magazine. Article that has to do with relationship and love could never interest me. All I read are technical and business stuff.
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But there is something called, instinct.
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 30 2009, 01:15 PM)
Again, here shows how idiot you are. I mean the way you think. You want other's words to assure you that she'd still love you?

Again, we have just said you are too selfish. I know your intention to patch back is out of good will. BUT, have you ever tried to first figure out if she wants to patch back?

Seriously, you're immature.
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 30 2009, 01:15 PM)
Again, here shows how idiot you are. I mean the way you think. You want other's words to assure you that she'd still love you?

Again, we have just said you are too selfish. I know your intention to patch back is out of good will. BUT, have you ever tried to first figure out if she wants to patch back?

Seriously, you're immature.
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He has no EQ. I seriously dont think he understands what is being debated here. He is an egoistical man who thinks that his wealth and status is what women are intrested in. He forgot that she loved him when he was a nobody.

Dont think we can do much here. He dont listen, just hears what he wants to hear...


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QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 06:05 AM)

Sweet talk was the most I could do at thousands of miles away. What would you suggest? I know talking about problems and personal life. What else other than these, any ideas?
different relationship needs different ways to maintain. i do not know what does your ex gf want/need but you should know.
even though you are willing to change to love her more, but 江山易改,本性难移。for a 愚孝person like you, it is impossible to stop listening to your dad. stop telling us how great your dad is, fathers on earth are the same, they are great. but your dad is too demanding. stop being like him!!

if you want ur ex gf to be happy after marrying with you, don let her to stay with your high class family members. she is marrying you, not your family. and of course, leave your family business. getting her a membership in whatever club does not show ur love to her, it only shows how big your face is. nuff said. good luck!
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 30 2009, 01:15 PM)
Again, here shows how idiot you are. I mean the way you think. You want other's words to assure you that she'd still love you?

Again, we have just said you are too selfish. I know your intention to patch back is out of good will. BUT, have you ever tried to first figure out if she wants to patch back?

Seriously, you're immature.
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My heart's broken, while you are in a normal state. Speaking as someone other than me myself, you could yell I'm immature or whatsoever. You could never understand the urge to patch back inside me. I need her back dearly.
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You have to decide ...and move on..

Hope it helps smile.gif
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QUOTE(Bishop @ Nov 30 2009, 01:29 PM)
He has no EQ. I seriously dont think he understands what is being debated here. He is an egoistical man who thinks that his wealth and status is what women are intrested in. He forgot that she loved him when he was a nobody.

Dont think we can do much here. He dont listen, just hears what he wants to hear...
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Can't you stop being hypocrite? I never said I'm rich in this thread. Look, only you said I'm rich. Point me where I said I'm rich and she's poor!

I confessed I'm egoistic, and this shows I'm not egoistic after all. Crazy people never call themselves crazy, got it?!

Since when I forgot she loved me when I was nobody?!

You are pointless!!!!!
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post Nov 30 2009, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 01:24 PM)
Failure must never be the reason to try things out. I have confident!
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See! This shows you how arrogant you are, AGAIN!

If you are gentle enough, you would say this: no matter how I will do my best but I will leave the decision to her.

I don't want to tell you how should you think because you will say "yeah, this is what I think, too."

I hope you can take a time off to think and figure out on your own; But I know you won't.

QUOTE(theWinner @ Nov 30 2009, 01:35 PM)
My heart's broken, while you are in a normal state. Speaking as someone other than me myself, you could yell I'm immature or whatsoever. You could never understand the urge to patch back inside me. I need her back dearly.
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I don't have to know how desperate you are to patch back. First thing you have to know is how to RESPECT her but all along you have not learned how to hear her desires in her heart, even NOW, you have not learned the lesson yet and you're still decide and plan everything and put everything and expectation according to YOUR will.

You should switch off your computer and stop replying here and really think about what and how should you do next.

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eh eh...after reading all your replies Winner, i have a conclusion now.

Leave her and let her have her own life.
A life WITHOUT you in it.

Though what Stylish says is right, about she still love you. but what if the girl is like me le? I still contact my ex bf wo, like after 2 weeks after breaking up just to talk. But I dun love him ady. I've moved on. biggrin.gif

She gave you wishes during your bday, haiya, she is a good girl ma. Like that you also ady think too much. Perasan!!!

When a girl say she wants to break up, there is really no turning back unless you change. >.<'''


Conclusion: Let her be.
-Let her find someone who can love her, who can give her all the emotional support that she wanted and not just money =_=
-someone who not only care about his work and family but who also care for his girl
-someone who can accept her for who she is
- someone who dun take her for granted (you said you dun take her for granted..but you only talk to her in skype like 5 minutes a day? it seems like a total opposite to me boy)


Something yours forever is never precious???
Dun be like my ex. smile.gif
Now i am happy with my baby. =D


P/S: you think you can be that someone for her, THINK AGAIN! and this time, THINK HARD!

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