im a workout novice.
so wanna hear opinions from veterans here..
is it necessary to bulk up DEN cut down?.. necesarry to go through this 2 phases to get a more dramatic result?
cause i dun want to spend time shredding off those fats i may put in when bulking up
anyway to gain muscle mass but at the same time, lose fat so that body will get more ripped?
thanks.

so cut things short.. in order to make it easier... should bulk up den cut down?
my main worry is that i gain too much fat during the bulk up phase n unable to shred them off later..
thanks mates btw

haha.. of course it's easier to bulk than cut
cutting phase is the part that worries me...
what do u do to cut? just do cardio without lifting? or minimal liftin?

im 175 with 60 before decided to start bulking
been trying to bulk n cut at the same time for almost 1 yr not
not much difference. weight unchanged.
so decided to bulk only. cut later.

ya. thanks for all your info mates,
just realised that calories are as important as protein is..
killing myself by cutting down calories n drinking whey in the past but gained nothing.. urgh.. felt like i've wasted few tubes of whey in the past. dumbo me!.
hahah.. bulking stage now..n will try not to worry bout my abs.. cause though i've some weigh, i just cant help it but realised that im slowly losing my 6packs. hahah

haha. well said..
infact, u get nothing in llife by wishful thinking..
it doesnt apply to bodybuilding only..

ok. final say.
bulk up den cut down,or vice versa instead of attempting the nearly impossible of doing both at the same time...
thanks.