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post Dec 24 2009, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 24 2009, 01:19 PM)
i tot AF speed is dependent on the motor in the body? meaning all lens(non motor) are about more or less the same speed?

the diff only when u have SAM or SSM or 'HSM' or any Motorised lens?
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lenses have different gearings. like the sal16-105 has short gearings. even with longer range, it's faster at focusing compare to shorter 18-70mm kit lens. slightly faster than 16-80mm zeiss.
sony 18-250 is faster focusing compare to its tamron 18-250 sibling

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post Dec 24 2009, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 24 2009, 01:19 PM)
i tot AF speed is dependent on the motor in the body? meaning all lens(non motor) are about more or less the same speed?

the diff only when u have SAM or SSM or 'HSM' or any Motorised lens?
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it is very trivial to say that AF speed is dependant on one thing only.. AF speed depends on a number of factors.. lens architecture, sensor, af-assist, etc.. betul tak albert?
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post Dec 24 2009, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 24 2009, 01:59 PM)
lenses have different gearings. like the sal16-105 has short gearings. even with longer range, it's faster at focusing compare to shorter 18-70mm kit lens. slightly faster than 16-80mm zeiss.
sony 18-250 is faster focusing compare to its tamron 18-250 sibling
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i have to vouch for this~ i am using the Sony sal18250 and its noticeably faster than the tamron~ smile.gif
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post Dec 24 2009, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 24 2009, 11:48 AM)
The A500 is in Malaysia already, first sighted at PC Fair 2009; you can definitely find it in Lowyat Plaza on the UG floor (not Tarita, but one of the shops near it, facing the kopitiam.)
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does the price have big distance with a550?
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post Dec 24 2009, 02:30 PM

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actually 3rd party lens is always slow then official lens right, alot photography they like use back the 1st party lens more then 3rd party, 3rd party mean is sigma, tamron and tonika.
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post Dec 24 2009, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(craziqbal @ Dec 24 2009, 11:40 AM)
1. a. Sony 16-105mm f3.5-6.3
    b. Tamron 17-50mm f2.8
    c. Sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4.5
    d. Sigma 18-50mm f2.8
    e. Sony CarlZeiss 16-80mm f3.5-4.5
    d. Sony/Tamron 18-200mm/18-250mm

2. Yes


Added on December 24, 2009, 11:42 am

sony malaysia did not bring in the A500 coz it is too closely priced to the entry level cams e.g. A230, A330.. but someone said earlier that the A500 may be coming in soon.. maybe albnok can clarify
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b. Tamron 17-50mm f2.8

using it so far no problems
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post Dec 24 2009, 03:31 PM

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guys, who's still on the look out for A700?

saw this on FTZ

a700 body only| 8G card | battery |charger | manual | usb cable | LCD protect| remote |video cable| CD |all items included in box |ver 4| Shutter Count around 12k (3 month/Condition 9.9/10 RM2600)...sony lens 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 ssm G (1 month/Condition 10/10 RM2300)...sony big bag LCS-AMSC30 (3 month/Condition 9.7/10 RM200)...location COD at PJ area Only ALL item(lowest price)pls call/sms 012-2341033 Thx - chan <keezei@hotmail.com>
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post Dec 24 2009, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Dec 24 2009, 12:21 PM)
hi thar wave.gif
So I was at comic fiesta, and i feel my Tamron 17-50 F2.8 on a300
- not that fast under low light
- the bokeh isolation of cosplayers to the busy background not ummph enough

So im thinking primes (never had one) either one below (under 2K)
-Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC HSM = RM17XX (Local Warranty)
-Sigma 24mm F1.8 EX DG =RM14XX (Local Warranty)
-28mm F1.8 EX DG Asp =RM11XX (Local Warranty)
- you suggest

*im stinking something that not exceeds 50mm in actual film equivalent
which one do you think best bang for the bucks?
im open to suggestions as well smile.gif
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go for sigma 20mm f/1.8

QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 24 2009, 01:14 PM)
If you're thinking of full-body shots at close range, under 1 meter, the 20mm F1.8 would be your best bet. It's the closest you can get to 17mm anyway!
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yeah...i second that
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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 24 2009, 01:14 PM)
If you're thinking of full-body shots at close range, under 1 meter, the 20mm F1.8 would be your best bet. It's the closest you can get to 17mm anyway!
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correct me if im wrong...for portrait..i notice that using long range the result is better than using close range most of the time(assuming the size of the model in the picture is the same)..the face usually looked more 3D from long range..and it looked flat when we shoot with wide lenses..
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QUOTE(achew @ Dec 24 2009, 04:39 PM)
correct me if im wrong...for portrait..i notice that using long range the result is better than using close range most of the time(assuming the size of the model in the picture is the same)..the face usually looked more 3D from long range..and it looked flat when we shoot with wide lenses..
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i 2nd that.

200mm F4 is much nicer then 50 F1.4.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Dec 24 2009, 03:31 PM)
guys, who's still on the look out for A700?

saw this on FTZ

a700 body only| 8G card | battery |charger | manual | usb cable | LCD protect| remote |video cable| CD |all items included in box |ver 4| Shutter Count around 12k (3 month/Condition 9.9/10 RM2600)...sony lens 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 ssm G (1 month/Condition 10/10 RM2300)...sony big bag LCS-AMSC30 (3 month/Condition 9.7/10 RM200)...location COD at PJ area Only ALL item(lowest price)pls call/sms 012-2341033 Thx - chan <keezei@hotmail.com>
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Looking for that G lens only smile.gif Hmm...1 month old but I rather get brand new at RM200 more. Quite hassle if wanna do those warranty thinggy.
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albnok : If vivid is 0/+1/+3/-2/-1 right, how about other more widely use modes, like landscape/potrait/standard? (:
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QUOTE(craziqbal @ Dec 24 2009, 11:40 AM)
1. a. Sony 16-105mm f3.5-6.3
    b. Tamron 17-50mm f2.8
    c. Sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4.5
    d. Sigma 18-50mm f2.8
    e. Sony CarlZeiss 16-80mm f3.5-4.5
    d. Sony/Tamron 18-200mm/18-250mm
Me vote for CZ1680


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post Dec 24 2009, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Dec 24 2009, 03:31 PM)
guys, who's still on the look out for A700?

saw this on FTZ

a700 body only| 8G card | battery |charger | manual | usb cable | LCD protect| remote |video cable| CD |all items included in box |ver 4| Shutter Count around 12k (3 month/Condition 9.9/10 RM2600)...sony lens 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 ssm G (1 month/Condition 10/10 RM2300)...sony big bag LCS-AMSC30 (3 month/Condition 9.7/10 RM200)...location COD at PJ area Only ALL item(lowest price)pls call/sms 012-2341033 Thx - chan <keezei@hotmail.com>
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i am interesting normally how ppl to put rating on their selling items score.... 9.7/10, which formula they use to calculate it to sold at the price? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(achew @ Dec 24 2009, 04:39 PM)
correct me if im wrong...for portrait..i notice that using long range the result is better than using close range most of the time(assuming the size of the model in the picture is the same)..the face usually looked more 3D from long range..and it looked flat when we shoot with wide lenses..
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long focal length is it require to be stand more far to the subject compare 50mm, then how it can have same size compare 50mm?

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ieR: SAM/SSM may or may not be faster than a screw-drive lens. For example it is widely known that the Nikkor AF-D 50mm F1.4 focuses faster than the Nikkor AF-S 50mm F1.4G SWM.

Focusing accuracy also depends - the Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 is bad and slow on the Canon/Nikon but good and fast on the Sony/Pentax.

kevinwcw: I keep forgetting to ask! Argh. There are talks about the A550 with 18-55mm kit lens coming in soon. If you don't need a camera now, you might save money by waiting!

lehtung: The butterfly showdown is awesome! I hope you got one from the side as well!

achew: Not really. It all depends on the angle of the face.

Kul | Mo0: It's just how I like it, with a wee bit of vividness.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 24 2009, 10:19 PM)
ieR: SAM/SSM may or may not be faster than a screw-drive lens. For example it is widely known that the Nikkor AF-D 50mm F1.4 focuses faster than the Nikkor AF-S 50mm F1.4G SWM.

Focusing accuracy also depends - the Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 is bad and slow on the Canon/Nikon but good and fast on the Sony/Pentax.

kevinwcw: I keep forgetting to ask! Argh. There are talks about the A550 with 18-55mm kit lens coming in soon. If you don't need a camera now, you might save money by waiting!

lehtung: The butterfly showdown is awesome! I hope you got one from the side as well!

achew: Not really. It all depends on the angle of the face.

Kul | Mo0: It's just how I like it, with a wee bit of vividness.
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i see the comparison of a550 and a500 actually not much different if a500 will be cheaper a lot then i will consider for tat...aiming on the cmos sensor
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I just get my A550 + 11-18mm awesome
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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 24 2009, 10:19 PM)
ieR: SAM/SSM may or may not be faster than a screw-drive lens. For example it is widely known that the Nikkor AF-D 50mm F1.4 focuses faster than the Nikkor AF-S 50mm F1.4G SWM.

Focusing accuracy also depends - the Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 is bad and slow on the Canon/Nikon but good and fast on the Sony/Pentax.

kevinwcw: I keep forgetting to ask! Argh. There are talks about the A550 with 18-55mm kit lens coming in soon. If you don't need a camera now, you might save money by waiting!

lehtung: The butterfly showdown is awesome! I hope you got one from the side as well!

achew: Not really. It all depends on the angle of the face.

Kul | Mo0: It's just how I like it, with a wee bit of vividness.
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ic ic, but there is a purpose of SAM/SSM rite? supposely SAM helps a lot in AF-C... SSM for bigger lens with bigger screw to turn bigger elements where it might indirectly cause a long term damage to the internal motor if no SSM for Huge Lens? but IF an SSM/SAM is damage, does the internal able to turn it? or the internal's motor is bypassed (no connection into the lens itself?)? i cant imagine the money involve to repair a SSM rclxub.gif
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