The mines there sure dun have-ler. Try Sg Wang. I'm sure there's a few units here and there. One of the most noticeable difference between a HDTV with propriatery tech like Pixel Plus, DRC etc is the flicker elimination. I dunno about you, but i can clearly see flickery lines on normal SDTV. Also the gap between the lines are much wider in a SDTV. Thus you'll see an overall darker image because there's black lines between the pics.

With a HDTV, even normal signals(good signals..those seen in showroom sometimes is very bad terrestial broadcast signal received...every tv also look like crap) is make better. It makes ASTRO signals looks a lot better. After you bought your SONY TV, you can test out the DRC-100 mode, which only doubles the vertical resolution, you'll get some idea how the SDTV looks like (but it still better than SDTV).

For a few hundred bucks difference, i assured you it's definitely worth it to get the SONY DB29M61 model. When you've set up your system with component cables and a progressive scan DVD player, it's like day and night. U can buy cheap plug DVD players later...only RM99 at Carrefour/Tesco(some more got progressive scan according to spec)...LOL.

Btw, the SONY DVD player that comes with my TV is pretty good...got optical out and decent pick up time....most notabley, it has optical out. I find it suprising that most RM300+ branded DVD player DOESN'T have an optical out. If u have a HT system, this is a must have feature. Although u still can connect to your amp with analog cables, it'll be hassle as you'll need 6 cables to send the 5.1 sound over!!! I've so many cables in my living room that it's going to look like a server room soon!

Also, one more good thing about the SONY DVD player, the remote is interfunctional with the TV. Means, with either the TV or DVD remote i can access to the basic fucntions of each equipment ( advanced function might need the actual TV/DVD remote). Very handy ...i've also too many remotes already!

Xboxx: U r in Melaka ah? Aiya, come KL shopping-ler....1.5 hours drive only. btw, i saw the XBOX HD Pack at One Utama the other day. It was not packed in the normal MS box though, i suspect they rip out this from some XBOX package that comes with this cable and sells it. They price tag it at RM110, but i'm sure it'll be much cheaper if i ask them the price.

erghh... then what happens for sets which supports 1080i/1080p @ 60Hz only?? can only play ntsc machines?? btw.. i'm refering to Philips PT8845... which among others supports the followings:

480p 60Hz
720p 50, 60Hz
1080i 60Hz
1080p 60Hz

why can't everyone just agree on one standard and stop confusing the consumers...

LOL, look below my avatar
i already got the ori cable. now 480p the picture no more jumping. and 1080i also the very light wave no more visible.


you own this tv ar? judging by the info you put, looks like only 720p capable of displaying PAL and NTSC signal. but the tv even support 1080p? but don't worry thought, SG, HK, TW, all console sold there are ntsc model. don't get from europe or Aus can already lar. maybe you can contact their support service to confirm what Hz the tv capable of.

check the DB29M61 manual, 720p & 1080i support both 50Hz & 60Hz. Lucky!
i thought with the introduction of HD, there will be only one universal HD frequency. but now it is more confusing.

one more tip for SONY DB29M61 owner with ps2. if you want to OFF the DRC when playing ps2, set the GAME mode to ON, this will OFF the DRC.

guys... just found out one shop here in banting that sell the SONY DB29M61 ...
after bargaining... i managed to get price for RM1800 cash...
will get my sony on wednesday...
heheh...

i already have amp with 5 speakers...
currently i just connect my TV to the amp with 'stereo' cable (is that the correct word)...
what i mean is the white and red pinhead cable...
but the sound not really come up when i watch TV...
but its ok when i play PS2...
should i use another cables???


can't wait to get my TV...

Nice tip...will try it later on.

fuiyo...u got amp and 5.1 setup and u use STEREO cables??!!!!

No way!!! Use an optical cable from ur PS2 to ur amp. Then u can get DD5.1 and DTS when watching DVD. Playing games won't make much difference though as most PS2 games is only Dobly Surround or Stereo, but it still the better option.

And congrats on your TV!

I think we can start a SONY DB29M61 fan club already hee-hee...

Let's see:
SONY DB29M61 user
Xboxx
Cylon
Researcher
Flea77
Matrix

anyone else i left out??

Xboxx: thanks for the tip. Hopefully now the Devil Won't Cry when playing the PS2 now coz the jaggies in DMC3 is insane with DRC on!

This post has been edited by Matrix: Feb 6 2006, 10:00 PM

consider that the offer is finish but you still get at that price, i'll say good catch.

considering ps2 games only support prologic-II, if your amp got prologic-II decoder, then it's good enough. but like matrix say better to use the the optical cable specially when watching dvd to get the DD5.1 and DTS support. i think the cable get get around RM40 at KL

thats why there's the manual, for reading.


actually my name start with double x
already quite a list of DB29M61 owner. let see how many more can we brainwash to buy this tv i set XBMC to use slide of picture as screen saver, watching those hi-res picture on the tv is unbelievably beautiful

does the devil still crying?
i play ultimate spiderman and pro racer driver on xbox, which both games only support 480i, but with DRC ON, the games looks good, almost as good as 480p. i wonder how come DMC3 gotten worse with DRC?

Wah, like this I also want to start Pixel Plus 2 club lah...outnumbered already

Ha..ha, you're outnumbered!!! Resistance is Futile!! Prepare to be asimilated!!!!

Gyaaaahhhhhh!!!

xxboxx: Haven't try DMC3 yet with DRC off...my PS2 is hooked to my monitor in the bedroom...too busy playing Dragon Quest 7 now.

Yah, watching hi-res pics on the TV is amazing...like watching on PC monitor!!

btw, i'm playing Incredible Hulk:Ultimate destruction on XBOX...this game very chun..the action is amazing and the way the hulk jumps from building to building sets butterflies in my stomache when he miss and falls...haven't feel like this for a videogame for a longtime already!!

actually... what's the difference between KVDA29M61 and KVDB29M61? from the sony malaysia website... the specs for KVDA29M61 is quite scanty compared to KVDB29M61... did i miss out anything obvious?

The DA model is the predecessor. I think specs is almost same except for some minor enhancement in the DB model. Anyway, the DA model is obsolete already(not in production anymore) and has been replaced by the DB model.

Thus, you should buy the DB model, not DA model. Always buy latest version!!!

oo.. okie.. i thot so too... but since the sony website still show both.. and the DA being more expensive.. i thot there's some xtra features in DA which was removed in the DB model..

I dont know whose mantaining the website though..some of the products are absolete and are supposed to be under the "display category"..tried to buy original PS2 component cable and was told that they didnt carry it anymore..its still listed though.

Need some feedback from members that uses DellTM 2405FPW 24" UltraSharpTM Wide Screen Flat Panel LCD Monitor for XBox 360 & Astro..

Is there any special cables require instead of Component Cable and S-Video Cable respectively...? And the Dispay is best view with 16:9 or 4:3 format..?

hmm... just went to jusco bukit raja this evening...
found out that they still sell sony KVDB29M61 at RM1799...
less RM1... huhuhu...
the best part is can do 0 interest installment...
wa... me not very lucky lar...
but... what to do...
should done more survey...

can't wait for tomorrow...

You can connect the XBOX 360 to the monitor using VGA or component cable. I would recommend you used VGA so that the component input can be used for other devices like a DVD player or the ASTRO decoder. As for the display, all XBOX 360 games support the 16:9 widescreen format.

ASTRO doesn't support a component output, so the best you can do is stick an S-video cable into the output and watch it off that. It's not the best, but significantly better than composite.

Greetings HDTVHeads,
Finally found a decent HDTV local forum, I've been reading up on HDTV info and technology. Got the HDTV bug when sister-in-law family got themselves a 37" Aquos LCD telly. Unfortunately, its mostly tuned to Astro transmission most of the time, and looks really shite on the telly since you can see the video is heavily compressed with heavy artifacts all around. Horrid. I've imagine hooking up my Xbox, but then again I'd realise that they might not be any more *new*games left to play at the end of this year (if I end up with a nice big telly).

I've been reading the whole thread, I'm looking forward to move up to a better + bigger telly. No hurry on my part, since I'll only get one probably at the end of this year.

I've been looking at a CRT display with widescreen, HD ready and the Samsung SlimFit 32" WS-32Z31HE really fits the bill.

But digging in closer, and reading more, one of the main gripes are:

1. Bad geometry problems (screen lines are not true straight at edge of screen)

2. Picture quality is so-so (I dropped by at Harvey Norman@The Curve yesterday, they have one SlimFit 32 WS on display, but it was running on composite video)

Overall, I am very dissappointed at Samsung's first attempt and imagine the poor Yanks who bought this TV when it was first release during July 2005, most of them end up returning back the tv and ending up with a Sony.
Ref: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....92&page=1&pp=30

LG does market a similar product as well called Cybertube(!) but since announcing it last year, there is virtually no news or products coming out here (except in Korea market)

I'll have to wait and see yeah?

PS: Spend most on my telly playing Xbox and watching DvDs, I got a nice smallish 21ish Sony Wega, nothing fancy but it all sense has absolutely lovely color and vibrant image. And DVD is running on composite cables only!

Sony's DRC works great - definitely one of the best for sub 27" picture tubes, and as you can see, the HD-version is even better.

Having said that, I'm more of a Philips man, and I love my Pixel Plus 2 CRT set. Shop around, and never settle for anything less than what you deserve.

Good luck!

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