Actually with 1K, i would suggest to buy a cheap china brand...basically SDTV not much difference. My Panasonic 21" SDTV is frankly not any better than the cheap cheap China brand seen in Carrefour. SDTV technology very common liao.

yes, 21" might not much different with branded from china brand. but with 29" you could see how worst the china brand display quality. and the china brand has no extra function to give more value for money. branded you might get line doubling (100Hz) and better speaker for the tv. from what i heard that to cut cost some china brand manufacturer create 29" tv using 25" tv tube (the electron gun behind the tv).

Yeah I agree. If your budget is RM 1k, then better get a 21incher from Samsung/Philips - my old 21" Philips came at RM700, had component inputs, and really good sound. 29" and above...well it's really difficult to recommend anything around that price.

1k - 1.3k can get 29" from samsung / philips / toshiba. just don't expect for hdtv lar.

Woo! Hoooo!!!!

I've finally get my hands on an original MS Hi-Def AV pack from Sg Wang!!! Hee-hee, and at a bargain too...at only RM55!!! Ha-ha!!! I was thinking to import it from online store which will cost me about RM200 including shipping!

Sg Wang is console gaming heaven!

Now finally, my HDTV gaming is razor sharp and there is absolutely no problem with my TV.

I can finally see Soul Calibur 2 in all it's 720p glory! Even the 480p looks better than when using the crappy Gamester pack.

The ghosting is really caused by the Gamester pack...which cost > than my MS HI-DEF Pack when i bought it!! Sigh...

Now, if only my PS2 component cable arrived..sigh...should have done some shoppig at Sg Wang instead of buying from online store...

Anyway, one thing about 720p though....all the games are in widescreen format!! That means i get black borders on top n bottom. Is this only happens to the SONY HDTV?? What about other 4:3 HDTV??

Actually u can find one...at Best Denki, display unit...but i think got HDTV one...last unit...only RM1K+....why not give it a shot?

720 = 1280x720
1080 = 1920x1080
both are only in widescreen format.

thats why i don't want 4:3 tv for hdtv. today went window shopping for tv, i really like samsung slimfit crt, the display quality can fight lcd or plasma, too bad it's 4k+, way out of my budget.

Can fight plasma?? I dun think so. The slimfit image quality is average only. Furthermore, at 4K+, better go for SONY Bravia LCD at RM7K.

Anyway, can't complain much...the SONY HDTV price drop again now at RM1799...playing this at widescreen gets a smaller screen, but u can't argue for the price. Also, most XBOX games is still 480p, so i get full 4:3 most of the time.

Maybe next year this time, LCD cost under 3K?? Keep ur fingers crossed really hard.

btw, there's new tech from Toshiba called SED...according to reviews it's so good it's like jumping from SDTV to HDTV again!!! Of course price is prohibitive to average joe like me.

7k? that double than the samsung price.
my budget around 2k+ only.

btw, when you set xbmc to 720p, does the screen looks darker alot? mine does that, dunno is it like that wun or my vga box got problem.

Please post the review after it arrives..i'm using 3rd party cable though and ironically there's doesnt much difference playing GOW or Burnout Revenge...trying to get original from Sony but they're out of stock!

It's mentioned in the manuals...720p and 1081i will always be displayed in widescreen format...i think its the official format unlike 480p and i believed 480p is not actually considered HDTV.

How do u set the XBMC to 720p?? Can't find the option there? Which version of XBMC u r using?

cylon: If there's no problem with ur cable, no need to change. The XBOX is a bit different, the huge AV pack got some other circuits inside i guess before converting to component output. I've only order cheap PS2 componet cables.

The problem with the XBOX is not the cable, but the converter...actually not much difference between expensive and cheap cables coz signal loss is insignificant unless it exceeds a very long distance.

Yep. 480p is actually EDTV onli.

btw, i've solved another problem earlier with running games from HDD. I must set the Games Region to "default". Previously was forced to NTSC/U, which seems to work onli in interlaced mode. It can also work in "Auto Region" mode, but u won't get HDTV mode for PAL games. So just set it to "Default".

Wah Matrix! Reading your adventures in 720p-land makes me so envious!

Definitely a good buy lah your Sony...wish I'd seen it earlier, but was too bedazzled by my friend's Pixel Plus 2....no 720p though.

No need to envy-ler. Pixel Plus 2 is still king when it comes to image quality.

Only a few XBOX games support 720p anyway. But it should be good enuff for next-gen gaming consoles.

But the widescreen thingy is still quite annoying. Does that means all the XBOX360 and PS3 games will be 16:9 on a 4:3 HDTV??



PS: Btw, i saw XBOX360 (inside a box) at Sg Wang at one shop.

That's probably going to be the case, mate...so until we finally get a widescreen display those bars are here to stay - but who cares when you're already gaming in HD?

Yar-loh...cannot be too greedy with a limited budget...LOL.

But the font size about small ...like trying to see 1024x768 resolution on a 15" monitor.

I think if those got a bigger budget, go for 34" 4:3 hdtv...at least you'll get a bigger screen when in 16:9 format. But last i check the 34" SONY TV spec is gasp..79kg....i have a hard enough time moving off the old 29" TV from my TV cabinet...wah 79kg...almost my weight liao...and probably heavier than some of u here!

My Pixel Plus 2 is exactly 72kg. Almost broke my back trying to move it...

Urs is 34" or 29"? My SONY 29" is only 49kg according to spec. But i dun think i'll want to move it around unless when i shift house!

Wow...u can move 72kg! I wouldn't wanna risk breaking my back!! (or dropping 70KG+ of TV onto my foot!! )

Mine 29" only! And even that I think it was sheer excitement that fueled me and my poor gf to lift the thing into my apartment!



They say love makes you do weird things...

Wah...u very nasty...ask gf to carry 72kg of TV for you!!! LOL.

Why carry urself wor? Didn't the delivery guy do it meh? Just pay him RM10 ler to carry up your apartment....

i'm using nov05 build. go to setting>appearance>look and feel>resolution.

you can still play xb360 and (probably) ps3 @480p, but i believe after seeing 720p you won't want to go back to 480p rite?

btw, can you take a pic of your tv while running 720p? i want to see how big the black border is.