duxz, note that all your supplementary lines would have to be MNP'ed over to DiGi in that case. If you would just like one of your lines under your account to be ported over, you can request that line to be changed to a new account ( prepaid ) prior to that.

Based on what is published and made available to public by the telco, you've got most of your facts wrong.

Under Terms and Conditions - Fair Usage policy , #18.

18. Using the BlackBerry device to provide Internet access for another device which is otherwise unconnected, using the BlackBerry device as a modem (known as tethering) or using the SIM card on non-BlackBerry devices will subject the user to be charged based on Pay-As-You-Use rate of 10sen per 10kb.

Excerpted from : http://www.digi.com.my/whatshot/promotions/blackberry/tnc.do


So , let's summarise again for the DG Smart RM58 unlimited plan.
- You will be charged in a pay-per-use manner for tethering
- You will be charged in a pay-per-use manner for using WAP on any other phones besides your registered blackberry (note it goes by the IMEI and PIN).
- WAP and BIS data usage using your registered blackberry (exclude tethering) , is unlimited. This is confirmed with a DiGi cust service agent.

Regarding the unbilled amount screenshot provided by Ramuk in post #160, i am facing the same situation as well. I do no tether, and i only use BIS and WAP on the registered berry. This is my first month, i haven't got to my billing cycle yet, so i cannot confirm if such charges would be finally billed at all, but my feeling is that i won't be billed for what should've been unlimited data, even though the unbilled amount screen lists them out.

Bear in mind that the screen you were looking at was "Unbilled Amount" screen. Such items could be waived at the monthly bill that you receive. We can always confirm this 'theory' when the monthly bill is issued or via a cust service agent.

If you are the account holder of the Maxis (originating) lines
Bring your IC, go to a Maxis centre and request to change your supplementary line to a Maxis prepaid number. Maxis will open up a new prepaid account which contains one line only -- that suppl. phone number. Next, go to DiGi centre and request to MNP that Maxis prepaid number to a DiGi postpaid account , and sign up for DG Smart RM58.

Extra notes : MNP works on account basis , not line basis. So, any lines under the origin account of your existing telco will be moved to the destination account of the new telco. So if you want to move just one line, you'll have to do the above workaround. Reason being choosing to open a new prepaid account is simply because it's the easiest to create and easiest to ditch. You do not even need to topup any amount. Afterall it just serves as a temporary bridging account until you get to DiGi. This postpaid - prepaid switching should usually be FREE.


If you are NOT the account holder of the Maxis (originating) lines
Steps are similar to above, except to note that, if you are not the account holder and just the suppl. line user , and you (not the Maxis principle) wish to own your new DiGi account instead of the the Maxis principle, you will have to make sure :
Get your Maxis principle to write and sign a letter of authorisation to indicate that you as the suppl. line holder wishes to detach from the original Maxis postpaid account, and to open a new prepaid account with that existing suppl. number. A photocopy of the principle's I.C. is required to be presented to Maxis as well.

I think if you could re-phrase your English , you might sound less confusing . Can anyone type in clear proper sentences anymore ?

If you want to know if you could stream youtube on blackberry over Digi RM58 DG smart plan , yes , you could . Options - Advanced Options - TCP/IP , fill in APN name as "digistrm" without quotes.

Regards to are you able to load up cimbclick and maybank2u in Blackberry , in my experienced i've tried BOLT and Operamini 4.2 browsers for maybank2u , you could login to browse your account balances etc, however, i wasn't able to perform an online fund transfer. When i requested for TAC, i was brought to a page that confirms the TAC will be sent to 016xxxxxxx, on the exit of this page ( by clicking "closing this window" , or back button ) , the session will expire. The purpose of the TAC is to use it in the same login session, so if i were to re-login and reload to the transaction page again, the requested TAC would've already been invalid.

From my experience of terminating my Celcom XPAX prepaid BIS , simply doing the "call Celcom to release my BIS PIN" doesn't effing work. They insisted on getting my butt to one of their Celcom centres ( not dealer shops! ) , in my case was Menara PKNS in PJ , to physically sign a friggin' form to indicate "Celcom, please release my blackberry PIN" . In the form, the counter agent will record down your Blackberry PIN and IMEI. From then on, wait 2-24 hours.

While you're waiting for 2-24hours , if you insert your DiGi sim card into your berry , you should have reasonable signal bar value , and the network type would be in lowercase . Example "edge" , or "3g" . In this situation , you should be able to make calls and sms, but you will not have DiGi BIS ready. You could also surf the net using the Blackberry browser in WAP mode instead of through BIS. If you're doing this WAP browsing, charges will be applied and itemised in your unbilled view / billed statement. However, at the point of your monthly statement is being released, you can call up DiGi to waive this WAP usage.

In my case, the after 3 or 4 hours, BIS has been released by Celcom and DiGi's BIS was activated automatically ( i did not need to call up DiGi to activate it , or neither do i need to set something else in my phone) . At this point , you shall see uppercase letters like "EDGE" , and "3G" instead of lowercase.

For the n-th time being reiterated here in this forum, there'll be no extra charges if you stream youtube data in-device, while leaving the APN settings as "digistrm".

According to T&C, it's unlimited data usage as long as data is consumed within the device,it's also made clear that when data is used in a tethering method to another machine, it'd be PAYU.

That said, DiGi has to provide means for users, for tethering purposes, hence specifically the "diginet" APN. This is done so that DiGi could track the tethering usage, and billed usage could be calculated accordingly. OK, fair enough.

Unfortunately, it has been mismanaged that some users through trial and error, managed to stream youtube WAP data on device using the same APN. DiGi couldn't distinghuish if it's in-device youtube WAP data , or is it tethering data, it therefore had to assume all traffic through this diginet APN is tethering.

Hence, for DiGi to fulfill the contractual obligation of "unlimited data as long as data is consumed within device" , ie in this cae , for in-device youtube WAP viewers, there's another APN specifically just for this purpose, of course which is your "digistrm" APN. I bet there's a mechanism behind this APN to filter out non-youtube packets, to avoid anything else being passed through here without charges (ie: avoid tethering usages). In other words this APN is free but only allows youtube packets. Implementing the filtering here is more logical than doing it the reverse way round in diginet for obvious reasons : you want the PAYU users to get everything.
I've been billed for diginet usage and I've requested DiGi to waive that, and they willingly did, because they knew they wouldn't be able to prove I had used this diginet solely for the purpose of anything other than in-device youtube streaming (or not). From my perspective I've only been using this APN for in-device youtube streaming specifically , which is nothing against the T&C. If they weren't to budge and I were to bring this case to court, I'd win hands down. However had I known better that there's a proper APN for in-device youtube streamers , I would've happily used that instead. In fact, I am using only digistrm since that incident onwards and there has been no issue since.

There.

Click "YES".

BB browser will then load the youtube streaming video using the BB media player.

The line for DG Smart plan for BB must be a primary line.

I guess you can take your phone number and open up a new account so that you are primary and your plan is DG Smart for BB. You may also sign up for DG30 additionally , but that is not necessary.

After that , you can have your Dad's line placed under your account as a supplementary, and choose DG50 for this supplementary.