PC Gamers,

I’ve come to make a topic here because of a post made by one of your members on the FPSAdmin.com forums prior to the release of Modern Warfare 2 showing support for the game from your clan/members.

As we are very much aware Infinity Ward have yet to respond to the concerns and feedback of the PC Community about Modern Warfare 2. PC Gamers have come under a large amount of criticism for acting out with a petition in advance of the games release without knowing what it would be like.

Well now the game has been released and we do know what it is like. This is a call for anyone within the PC Community to show their support for a new petition entitled ‘Modern Warfare 2 (PC) – Post Release’. The idea behind the new petition is to show Infinity Ward (with a completely clean slate) that we do really still care about the issues and are providing them with the feedback that they need to do good by us.

The petition covers the need for:

- Support for an in-game console;
- Support for the “/record” feature;
- Support for the lean feature;
- Support for auto-balancing;
- Support for multiple profiles;
- Support for better Graphics and FOV control;
- Support for actual ping readouts in ms (not graphs);
- Support for a tournament game type (like Promod);

Dedicated Server/IWNet specific:

- Support for mod tools and modded Dedicated Servers;
- Support for Punkbuster enabled Dedicated Servers;
- Support for Dedicated Server admins to choose player numbers (Max: 50);
- Support for PC gamers to choose if they wish to connect to an IWNet P2P server or a Dedicated Server (hosted by clans/individuals, etc)

Many PC Gamers are starting to give up on Infinity Ward ever making good of their damaging changes to the community. My response to that, and hopefully yours, is “let’s give it one last shot”. Let’s unite as one PC Community!

The IW forums post for this is at http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopi...p?f=24&t=174552

The petition is at: http://www.petitiononline.com/mw2pcpr/petition.html

Thanks,
CS[Ex]JustJack
jack@celtsclan.com
www.celtsclan.com

Even though I highly doubt the effectiveness of petitions, nor do I know if you'll read these responses after your first post here, good luck. MW2 could easily be so much better of a game than it is at the moment.

Nah - I'm around. I'm after feedback, I'm out to challenge the negatives and I hope that with a big community effort and some time from me and a few others we can turn this around. Right now I feel we just need to show IW that we are a community and we do care but they need to sort things out.

Several points:

The /record feature actually works, just that no console (and no way to bind keys to brute-force record/stop) puts it out of reach.

Other things may be much harder, such as leaning which would likely take a bit more work (there's a bunch of new stances in the game, i.e. riot shield, akimbo - nfi how the animation system works but those weren't in CoD4, at least)

At the moment you can get a semi-accurate ping readout up to 135ms by editing the multiplayer config file and setting the bars to 9 and bar division to 15ms. That's 'good enough' for me, although of course a numerical display would be much less of a blatant insult to intelligence.

Edit2: Just remembered, regarding graphic tweaks. Apparently at the moment re: r_drawdecal 0, instead of turning off surface decals actually makes some walls completely disappear. (Hey, whaddya know, an in-built wallhack!) If this is an engine rendering problem patchable with a new exe, that'd be fine. If it's actually some new methodology of creating maps (i.e. the problems exist in the map files) then we're probably sunk a little in that regard.

IW.net really, really needs these features:

- Auto-balancing (you listed this under non-IW.net but since being locked to teams is matchmaking related...)
- The ability to vote to change the map, both in-game and in-lobby
- The ability to vote for a new host
- The ability to queue for a friend's game when its full and enter as a slot becomes available (FIFO, game tells you how many are queued, if there are others) If the friend leaves that room it should instead throw you into his party for re-queueing.
- The ability to toggle on a confirmation dialog box for "Find game" which asks you if you wish to join the room based on the ping to the host (and other players in the room since IW.net can be a d*** and swap hosts for no reason) and the current map.
- edit: THE ABILITY TO TYPE IN THE LOBBY DEAR GOD SKFLDJAFJLKSJFDALKSJDFLKASJDFLAKJSDFKAJSDLKAJSDF

I know that IW.net replacing ded servers on their part is supposed to make the game more user-friendly, but the above features can do nothing but add to the end-user experience overall. Their inclusion will make their matchmaking service 0.2 as enjoyable as having ded servers instead of 0.1.

This post has been edited by Falk: Nov 16 2009, 06:05 AM

Who care second or even third petition? It already sold more than US300 million..I don't think IW would see ur petition..

So, basically its the same petition as the first one, just that its now a petition and not some thinly veiled boycott?

Also, why are you guys still asking for Punkbuster? There's VAC now (Which is even designed to regulate dedicated servers) and its something they've paid Valve for already... No need to add another on top.

^ What he pointed out on PB issue.

Besides, screw promod. It's already balanced well enough in MW2.

Pssst, IW hates promod.

I'd say no to Punkbuster, its a shitty anti-cheat program with alot of false detections. I'm up for the rest.

Auto team balancing is definitely and urgently needed, i have played in games where there were 9 of us against 3 of them.

I can live without lean though its nice to have. Last but definitely not the least, a dedicated server option is a must.

This post has been edited by Xonius: Nov 16 2009, 09:47 AM

i understand the concern, jwevrsn. other than the punkbuster, i am all good.
but why don't we, the pc gaming community, just let the half assed port die, and wait for a proper PC game.

This petition is for the ppl who have already bought the game...

Which means that using a Steam group appears to be a better solution since they can literally tell who owns the game and who doesn't.

Balanced? Really? Seriously?

Sorry but I can't stop laughing.

Hi Justjack,

I have sign the petition. Cheers.

"Like buying poo, everyone tells you its poo, you buy it and be like: damn this is poo, then demand others to help you to turn poo into a milkshake."

Still, can't say I'm against any form of effort to make MW2 less shitty than it is in many ways.

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Added on November 16, 2009, 6:12 pmYou realize how much of a complete joke the highly anticipated, Activision-sponsored, first-ever MW2 tournament was, right?

Here, lemme quote it for you



But it's okay, go ahead and keep pretending you know what balance is. All these top teams are wrong. IW, who have been making (awesome) SP and pub MP games, is right.

This post has been edited by Falk: Nov 16 2009, 06:12 PM

Sadly to say that I do not have the game and therefore I could not sign the petition. I wish to purchase this game but having heard a mixture of reviews from users that have bought the game I'm still not sure if I wanna take the risk of paying premium price of RM 209 (USD60) for a game which is a direct console port. The only thing that's stopping me from buying this game is because of the lack of dedicated server support, I'm not bothered about mod-tools or any sort of feature that is lacking from COD4. If only Malaysian internet connection is 2 to 3 times faster, I would already purchase this game without a second thought. Other than the lack of dedicated server, having to know that there are so many people abusing MW2 with hacks and cheats further justify my reason of not getting MW2.

This post has been edited by JuzJoe: Nov 16 2009, 06:22 PM

a lot of thing to turn off to make mw2 a balance game since too many gun/perk are way imba for any regular match..

A few points to consider:

+1 to those features , it really should be implemented and i think IW will implement it in future patches because the current ORIGINAL (have to state since its malaysia) game owners are complaining on this and they would prolly listen to that.
However i would have to disagree about vote change of map in-game . Look at COD4 and we should already know the multiple vote abuse done on map changes which spoils the round removing the fun (thats why we are playing the game...for fun).
But map change in the lobby would be good though.

+1 nice reply.

+1 on your reply dear sir . VAC is good enough as it already works like pb, infact might be even better who knows . It clearly shows that the petition starter did not do proper research about the game's full systems before making petition .

Vince Zampella of Infinity Ward: We would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it.

lol....think about it .

+1 to your reply . I totally agree, by placing the petition in a Steam group, even IW might listen coz its a petition done by those who actually bought the game and are currently playing it.

Also note that the Steam group that was suppose to boycott MW2 has most of its members playing the game on the release date....so much for the "boycotts". More like TROLL to me.

That i agree, there are some things that still need balancing before it can go tourney mode. eg: grenade launchers etc.

yes..those..console blah-blah is livable, lobby talk and host vote is NEEDED...not kicking out the host,just changing host....
and...well, got kick out of the game just now...3 times or some host migration problem...i got my NAT open still the same. well....don't know my problem or IW problem,
about the partition, not really think they will change, maybe COD MW3 got?

even with a petition (which i will support) will they hear about it? will they do sumting about it? i guess not... =/

i'm guessing MW3 in 2 years time?

the game is too balanced till... it's boring... game mode is kinda limited... and 12 ppl in 1 room... 6vs6...

@ The Negatives

- 10 Seconds to sign;
- First petition, pre-release;
- IW stated that they would not listen to pre-release feedback because people had not played the game;
- This petition, post-release;
- IW stated that they would listen to post-release feedback as people had played the game.

While I have my doubts and while I understand yours, 10 seconds to sign a petition to say you support the community isn't asking an awful lot. Worst case scenario you've lost 10 seconds... best case scenario once we get the figures we think are good enough this goes to IW and Activision in both electronic and hard copy formats.

We'll kick up the fuss with any news and game reps willing to pick up the story and hope for the best.

I understand that this is the last fight for many but let's at least act as a community and put a good one up!

-- Sidenote:

a) All of the stuff we're actually asking for has already got code in the game and maybe at most could require the effort of a little tweaking a new GUI server browser and a master server;
b) Reason for Punkbuster (while I understand the frustration of people with PB) with good a/c streaming, pb configured right it instantly stops hackers getting in. Real CD Keys required and GUIDs based on them:

- MW2 has been illegally shared and a MP crack designed, you no longer need a CDKey on steam to play this game just add it as a non-steam game;
- VAC bans you for hack? Just make a new steam account;
- Nonpaying users can now play on IWNet alongside paying customers for free.

That's more of an anti cheat fail than COD4 ever had.

Do you even own the game? Are you aware of how Steam works (Add it as a non-Steam game? Eh?)? Steam CD-keys are forever tied to a Steam account. So, if your Steam account is hacked, your MW2 CD-key is GONE FOR GOOD.

Also, the failure of IWNet to prevent illegal users from using their matchmaking service is a failure on IWNet. VAC still works as it is and is a global fix (PB doesn't actually permban CD-keys on a global level)