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 A professional mistake, Enjoy the joke SPECIALLY for big 4!!!

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post Nov 16 2009, 12:07 PM

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what's the DEFINITION of being PROFESSIONAL here?

i don't know, I think the writer has his points but the way the word PROFESSIONAL was used, I just felt it was inappropriate (refer to the definitions of the word PROFESSIONAL)

IMO the experiences stated, while true, but not always the case, and doesn't apply to all professionals.
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post Nov 16 2009, 02:31 PM

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and just to add, the writer paints all things bad.

from what I observe, usually when you're junior is when you work your bum off to get peanuts.

as you progress, you will be paid more but whether the amount of work scales according to the amount paid is subjective to the organization.

start as junior, RM 2k and do everything instructed but as you progress, say reaching managerial level, then you get RM 5k but you get to instruct others, while being instructed only by those higher than you. lesser work but more responsibility, so to speak.

perhaps the writer himself is just a freshie who's complaining about his / her working condition as it is evident that he / she doesn't seem to be (based on the article) someone who has progressed in that particular line of job.

what do you guys think?
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post Nov 16 2009, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(ICDeadPeople @ Nov 16 2009, 06:01 PM)
If you go and ask form five or college kids what they want to be, most of them will say engineers, doctors, lawyers, accountants. Any other profession is not considered as successful. I think its the lack of knowledge on careers that most malaysian have. I remember all my matriculation mates wants to be in medical (eyes, teeth, Pharm, etc) or engineering. Whether they know what engineers do is different matter. When i told one of my teacher im taking Geology, he even asked me how bad my final examination are.
apparently those people never realize that a diploma holder who knows how to speak decently can do sales.

and the 4 years (at least) for them to get their degree along the course fees - we're talking about 4 years studying + 40k (at least) for those courses. compare that with the person who has 3 years head start + earnings.

so by the time both are at 22, one just finished 4 years and spent 40k for studies. the other already had 3 years working experience and assuming 1.5k for 1st year, 2k 2nd year and 2.5k for 3rd year when it comes to salary, the fella averages at 2k per month for 3 years, coming to RM 72k worth of incoming $$$ already.

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post Nov 17 2009, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(shoppinglah @ Nov 17 2009, 12:01 AM)
not fair to calculate like dat lar man...so many other possible figures leh...wat if continue calculating to 10 years, 20 years...who knows the limit or progress of a dip. salesperson and a professional.  other than working attitude and knowledge, other unforeseen and beyond control aspects are there, such as opportunities right?
haiyoh simplified already to get the point through la.

if you want to include all the variables (meaning, all the IFs in life) then no need to post already. the in this world no need to argue / debate already because we'll have a never-ending loop of "what ifs" smile.gif


 

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