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Philosophy Do Human Need Religion?, some people say they can live without it

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post Dec 11 2009, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(b3ta @ Dec 10 2009, 07:47 PM)
doh.gif dont all buddhists go to hell? i mean, they burn hell notes n cars n stuff for ppl in hell right? correct me if im wrong
the really 'power' ones go to nirvana but that's just...well..that's nothingness basically. right?
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I laughed so hard at your lack of understanding towards Buddhism and total courage to yell that all Buddhists go to hell in a public forum

In Buddhism, you live your life for today. You live and complete your work today and practice loving kindness to everybody and everything. Keeping yourself calm, happy and very importantly, mindful enables you to be able to see things in different perspectives and offer help and help yourselves in ways you've never thought of previously. It just opens up your mind. Those of us who have not come to a point of which our mind and understanding has improved, will continue to battle this thoughts of hell and heaven and religion. Those of us who have understood, just explain and let it go.

If one chooses to fight the Buddhist way, we'll just let go and move on with our lives. Eventually you'll see why we do that. Its not like collecting points to die in Buddhism. It's just living and helping those around us. Death is another phase altogether but we're not done with life. So we'll just focus on finishing life first.

I know it sounds so "WTF?" but I went from WTF to "Ooohh.....it actually works!"
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post Dec 11 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(b3ta @ Dec 11 2009, 12:14 PM)
of course that includes the freedom not to believe, or to accept. which you can see by the world today having more non-christians than christians.

but where the different choices we make leads us to is another matter altogether. if you choose to close or well, never open that door then i guess u wont know what's behind it.

isnt that an oxymoron, humans need religion but it's not a necessity?  hmm.gif
hold your horses there, boy.
i never mentioned anything about telling buddhists to go to hell. i am not one to judge, i merely pointed out something that is very prevalent in the buddhist society that i have observed.

and your explanation of buddhism makes it sound so hippie. if that is so, why burn hell notes? as buddhists, you do not worry about death as u dont know what will happen to you after life, but yet there is this burning culture. a forummer said that it is a ritual culture or something to that effect. y preach one thing and do another? again, correct me if im wrong.

sometimes i wonder where u blue tags get your blue tags from. jumping to conclusions like that, not very nice practise of a bluetagger ya know
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Oh? You don't know? Well, you see, I got the blue tags from the admins of the website. I don't know where Admins get their tags though, but I think Admins can give Admin tags. I hope that answers your question.

Practices of burning hell notes is Taoist. Read the earlier post by awakened angel. A lot of temples have adopted culture and thus the burning of paper. Take a visit to India's Nalanda, and you'll see there are no paper being burnt. Buddhism does sound like a rather hippie'ish teaching, but it also depends how you apply it. If you're a student, and apply living for the moment, it'll involve doing your homework asap and for me, maybe finishing my paper ASAP. If you're a housewife, it could mean doing your chores now, and when it's time to watch TV, watch TV. For a businessman, it could involve, getting the deal done today because today's the time to work and get it finished.

Also the level of Buddhism I'm showing you right now, is a beginner level. There's much more that even I haven't finished all.

QUOTE(lin00b @ Dec 11 2009, 02:22 PM)
most chinese practice a bastardized version of buddhism. and most is custom rituals rather than religious rituals.

and yes, buddhism is a very hippie/zen religion.
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I thought Zen came from Buddhism?
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post Dec 12 2009, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(b3ta @ Dec 11 2009, 03:44 PM)
bastardised eh, so customs or religion? ur religion says there is no such thing but u put into action the customs which supports such a theory. left or right?
i must say these red tagged gangstas have a very poor sense of judgment.

but i see alot of buddhists burning hell notes. are they buddhist and taoist at the same time? left or right? or both? what about joss sticks?
so then i take it that u agree with lin00b that most buddhists are practising a rather bastardised version of the original. is it also true then, only a very small minority is practising the philosophies established by buddha - who was himself searching for an answer?

i take it that if u are at a 'beginner's' level, u have a higher level to work towards. if you are living for the moment, why are you working for the future? or are you actually living for the future?
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Take it this way.

If you live for today, and settle all the important things for today, and plan for the future. When the future comes, you execute the plan well, it succeeds. If you live for tomorrow, and throw away the important things of today (parents, family, friends, companionship) in the end, you achieve your goals, but lose what you should've appreciated.

Buddhism's a teaching, that when you ask a question, you'll get more questions. The Buddha himself answers questions, with questions.
When you've gone through the whole circle and finally see the light, you'll ask yourself (or at least I did), "Why the hell didn't I just accept it instead of taking 2 long years to figure it out?"

Makes you humbled and feel a lil stupid sometimes

 

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