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Philosophy Do Human Need Religion?, some people say they can live without it

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mashqi
post Apr 30 2010, 09:32 PM

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First, we don't worship the prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h as god. Second, the prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h doesn't have any education about this astronomy and science stuff, he doesn't even know how to write. Third, there other things that are mention in the Quran other that the big bang theory that can only be known in the modern world like the creation of human in mother's womb.

What is the difference between us human and animal??? One of it is the sense of moral. What is moral? How do you consider an activity is immoral? What are our moral concern? How do you know which issues is less moral importance or high moral importance? (If human really evolve from something else)Why and How our moral sense develop? Before we ask about do human need religion, we should try to answer everything regarding moral sense.
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mashqi
post May 1 2010, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 30 2010, 11:28 PM)
what proof or how do you know muhammad does not have knowledge on astronomy and science?
as for the creation of human in mother's womb i am sure it is no way near accurate to what we know today. also test about that actually appear earlier than quran.

moral appeared before religion. enough said. philosophy about moral appeared long before religion.

also, the presence of many atheist leading a moral, just life is enough to show that we don't need religion for moral.
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At that time Arab people are consider barbarians. They love to war and love to kill. So, I don't the prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h. would get any education about science and astronomy in an environment like that. And can you tell me about this philosophy about moral that you talk about and who created it.

QUOTE(CleverDick @ May 1 2010, 12:38 AM)
The development of embryo and the importance of semen had been known by greek philosopher Aristotle in about 300+ B.C.E,which was a millenium before the quran came to be,sorry to burst your bubble,this may seem 'scientific breakthrough discovery' at first glance,but in fact it wasn't something new...
morality is influenced by society norms,what is deem right to you may not be regarded as the same to some other cultures and their respective practices,and if your statement about all forms of morality come from god makes sense,then we should ascribe cannibalism,nazism,etc to god as those who embraced these ideas thought they're justified actions and according to them,should be performed...
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Could you tell me where you get the info about the Aristotle? I tried to find about it but I still can't find it. It would be great if you give me the link or anything regarding this matter thumbup.gif ... Since I believe in Islam, what is written in the Quran is my moral compass and other actions that are forbid by the Quran is wrong. So, why you say cannibalism is wrong but still you eat meat from other animals.

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mashqi
post May 1 2010, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(CleverDick @ May 1 2010, 07:32 PM)
here
http://science.jrank.org/pages/2452/Embryology.html
the bolded part represents your personal belief,what has been told right to you by a book is not necessarily right to other people,so please don't ever cross the line...
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Please compare between the Aristotle's theory and what is said in the quran.
http://www.islam101.com/science/embryo.html
If the prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h. copy from the theory, they would be the same.

And please forgive me if I offended. The topic is do human need religion. I would say yes and by religion, I would mean Islam since that my religion. So, I would talk mostly refer to my belief. biggrin.gif

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