Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

Philosophy Do Human Need Religion?, some people say they can live without it

views
     
kubing
post Dec 7 2009, 01:16 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
263 posts

Joined: Dec 2008
go watch cannibal holocaust. then you know why people need god..
kubing
post Dec 27 2009, 12:27 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
263 posts

Joined: Dec 2008
QUOTE
Almost all the war occurring here are due to religion and believe. Do u think the Palestinian war will be occurring if israel was a muslim country ?



Religion caused delay in advances in technology. Religion are the main cause malaysia are not doing well economically.
]

1. you are too far my friend. Is Israel still "human" to you? to me they are more like evil than animal.
2. what delay? I believe in god, and have degree in electronic n master in tech. microelectronic FYI. my job is making microchip "alive". do you have understanding in technology better than me. i hope. doh.gif
kubing
post Dec 27 2009, 12:05 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
263 posts

Joined: Dec 2008
QUOTE(lin00b @ Dec 27 2009, 10:45 AM)
congratulations, you are now officially part of the problem, but seeing the opposite side as something not human. that is hte first step to killing others as well, they are not really human and it is not wrong to kill them.

i'm sure many on the other side would feel the same about you.

and thus peace will never come.
*
human, evil and animal are different. according to Darwin we all are animal. maybe we hate israel but no one of us said killing people will solve the problem. but israel do. they think their people are the most holy moly human in the world. other than Jews are shit. to them crist, islam buddha, hindu, atheist are bullshit.
kubing
post Dec 27 2009, 04:49 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
263 posts

Joined: Dec 2008
QUOTE(quintessential @ Dec 27 2009, 04:01 PM)
so how kafir, infidel (islam) is different than goyim, gentiles (judaism). both religion believe that goyim/kafir deserved to be punished by god and will burn in deepest depth of infernal hell for being a non-believer.

btw, do you meet a jew in the first place? do you realize that there's a small jewish community in penang?
*
one more thing we miss here. Israel kill Palestinian not because of religious but land. everyone need power.


Added on December 27, 2009, 4:53 pmIsrael is race btw. Jews is religion. There are a few Israel people in Palestine are muslim (islam). take that in the first place. we dont need to be kafir/judas/budha/hindu to be in hell. muslim also go together with kafir if they dont follow the (Al-Quran)

This post has been edited by kubing: Dec 27 2009, 04:57 PM
kubing
post Dec 30 2009, 05:56 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
263 posts

Joined: Dec 2008
QUOTE(thesupertramp @ Dec 29 2009, 09:33 PM)
Good questions. Those are the questions I hope believers ask themselves before trying to convert anyone.

However, I would like to comment that those things that are currently unexplainable might one day be explained. Just because there are currently no explanations to them does not mean they are "miracles". There are no evidence that can support a "miracle" (at least I don't think so. The Catholic Church thinks there are), but reasoning is almost always supported by evidence.

Additionally, believing in god does not "motivate humans to evolve." Evolution of any species has no direction. No matter how hard you try to fly, you won't be able to. However, if you are talking about inventing and using tools, then motivation can do that, but I will still argue that one does not need god as their motivation to do so. Survival itself is a strong enough motivation.
*
at least god give u a motivated brain to think He do not exist.

This post has been edited by kubing: Dec 30 2009, 06:13 AM
kubing
post Dec 30 2009, 11:48 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
263 posts

Joined: Dec 2008
QUOTE(100n @ Dec 30 2009, 08:41 AM)
"Believing God gives human the motivation and creativity to create/invent/evolve into something that no other species in earth are capable to be"

Let me give you some example. Where's all the great film come from? Van Hellsing, Exorcist, Journey to the West, andDa vinci code ...etc... hehehe..all motivate/creativity/idea.

Ok, more serious note. Human marked time/create cloak to pray their GOD. All Pyramid was build due to religion purposes, mayan egyptian etc. This creativity help the foundation of modern building.

Chinese read the stars to understand the universe (religious way). Galileo build telescope to proof the church that earth is not the center of universe. islam was formed to united the arabs (althought not long) and many many more....
*
100% agree. no doubt. smile.gif
kubing
post Dec 30 2009, 09:45 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
263 posts

Joined: Dec 2008
QUOTE(thesupertramp @ Dec 30 2009, 06:30 PM)
And god clearly did not gift you with rational thinking skills to come up with your own ideas and arguments. Nor English lessons. He gave me the duty of stimulating rational thoughts among the masses while he made you a blind follower of ancient books and non-existent entities.

You must admit, he loves me more. You can't say god is indifferent.
That may be true, but religion often also acted counter productively to human progress. Instead of seeking rational, explainable reasons to certain phenomena, religions have often times tried to use god as an explanation, suppressing progress. Many examples including the teaching of Creationism in science classes, denying the Earth revolves around the Sun, opposing stem cell research among others. Not to mention the number of preventable deaths from AIDS just by using condoms.

Looking at history, there's good, there's bad. But looking ahead, I would hate to imagine a world without condoms, without stem cell research, and the abolition of the teaching of evolutionary theory. You can't deny that if religion would have it 100% their way, this would only be the beginning of the end of rationalism.
*
haha.. Yes... He Love everything because He have create every single thing in universe. even smelly shit of yours was created by Him. tongue.gif


Added on December 31, 2009, 11:03 amAl-Quran Translations in English Language
Translations by Abdullah Yusuf Ali
He Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between, in six days, and is firmly established on the Throne (of Authority): Allah Most Gracious: ask thou, then, about Him of any acquainted (with such things).

This post has been edited by kubing: Dec 31 2009, 11:03 AM

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0302sec    0.50    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 30th November 2025 - 02:11 AM