Feb 12 2010, 05:22 PM
QUOTE(lin00b @ Feb 12 2010, 04:15 PM)
why 1 god? why not a committee of gods and goddesses? then have highest mountain competition (won by creator of mt. everest) though the creator of some underwater mountain dispute that; etc etc.
seriously, your "logic" shows you do not understand how gravity works. here's a quick crash course, magnitude of gravity (attraction force) is directly related to how massive the object is (which your glass is very very small) so the "gravity" exerted by the pieces of glass is very very small. but even that, given long enough time, it should move; but it didnt. why? the pieces of glass is too close to a relatively very very very much larger source of gravity which pulls it and keep it in place. that source? earth
and finally, even if there is a being upthere that created everything, is there a need for an organization devoted to worshipping it? do you require that computer you created to worship you?
if there are many gods, gods will have war with each other and us, humans = kaputt.seriously, your "logic" shows you do not understand how gravity works. here's a quick crash course, magnitude of gravity (attraction force) is directly related to how massive the object is (which your glass is very very small) so the "gravity" exerted by the pieces of glass is very very small. but even that, given long enough time, it should move; but it didnt. why? the pieces of glass is too close to a relatively very very very much larger source of gravity which pulls it and keep it in place. that source? earth
and finally, even if there is a being upthere that created everything, is there a need for an organization devoted to worshipping it? do you require that computer you created to worship you?
they will try to figure out which one is the most powerful, as people worships them.
that's why there is only one god, the ultimate creator. The One who create mass, time and space. We're been bounded by those 3 from the day we've been created in wombs until the day of our last breath.
You cannot make a comparison human = computer. If we created computer to worship us, it will worship us. But computer didn't, because now we created it to work for us, humans.
We need religion, as the religion teach us to a better person. ALMOST EVERY RELIGION teach that. Including respect for other people religion. People who insulting other people religion in any way isn't considered really practice the religion itself.
People created many extraordinary things, but who create the sun? The earth? The gravity? Or some kind of biological tissue which we call brain which can produced something we call emotions? That's god work.
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Of course, HUMAN need religion. We need it to
A) Treat people UNFAIRLY and claim that God tell us to do it.
B) Kill one and another in order to save each other souls.
C) Confused ourselves in order to misunderstood some simple rule like treat others like how you like to be treated
D) Claimed that we need to learn to read some book in order to learn MORALITY.
E) So that we do not need COMMON SENSE. All we need is to read and interpret what a book says and follows.
F) Or even worse, do not even learn to read that and just follow whatever someone says what the book says??
End of story.
Dreamer
P.S.: In summary, RELIGION is IRRELEVANT. It may be important to a person INDIVIDUALLY. But, as for MORALITY and so on, it NEITHER play a POSITIVE or NEGATIVE role.
A BAD person is a BAD person. A GOOD person is a GOOD person. This is INDEPENDENT of whether the person is RELIGIOUS. There are ENOUGH LOOPHOLES in every religions to let people do EVIL things and still claim that they are RELIGIOUS.
So, why don't we JUDGE a person based on UNIVERSAL MORALITY like the GOLDEN RULE? We do not NEED any book to tell us RIGHT from WRONG. Or, that is TOO SIMPLE?? Hence, we cannot HIDE behind RELIGION and do our EVIL stuff??
Of course, HUMAN need religion. We need it to
A) Treat people UNFAIRLY and claim that God tell us to do it.
B) Kill one and another in order to save each other souls.
C) Confused ourselves in order to misunderstood some simple rule like treat others like how you like to be treated
D) Claimed that we need to learn to read some book in order to learn MORALITY.
E) So that we do not need COMMON SENSE. All we need is to read and interpret what a book says and follows.
F) Or even worse, do not even learn to read that and just follow whatever someone says what the book says??
End of story.
Dreamer
P.S.: In summary, RELIGION is IRRELEVANT. It may be important to a person INDIVIDUALLY. But, as for MORALITY and so on, it NEITHER play a POSITIVE or NEGATIVE role.
A BAD person is a BAD person. A GOOD person is a GOOD person. This is INDEPENDENT of whether the person is RELIGIOUS. There are ENOUGH LOOPHOLES in every religions to let people do EVIL things and still claim that they are RELIGIOUS.
So, why don't we JUDGE a person based on UNIVERSAL MORALITY like the GOLDEN RULE? We do not NEED any book to tell us RIGHT from WRONG. Or, that is TOO SIMPLE?? Hence, we cannot HIDE behind RELIGION and do our EVIL stuff??
There is evil. And there is good. That's why heaven and hell exist.
God does show where is heaven, where is hell. How does it look. The existence of both. But when? Second last breath of every human being. And then the last breath, and bye-bye.
Who dictates the golden rule? Who dictates the universal morality? If universal morality says it's good for health to eat our own shit because it's still have some nutrition in it, will you do it?
People who do evil stuff and hide behind religion is the person who does not understand the religion at all or pretend it is his/her religion for their own mission/target.
Every person is good from birth. Maybe there's some ups and down in their life, but we need to find the good side of us. I didn't see any religious book says prostitute or bank robber or cheaters can't enter heaven if they asked God to forgive their sins.
Loopholes in religion is misinterpretation of others regarding certain religion. If you study well about religion, you will understand. Don't just by have a snippet or hear some hearsay, you ultimately decide you belief. Thats just so immature.
Why God need us to worship Him? Simple. To let us realize how weak we are and need God help in things we need to do or accomplish. We're not perfect. We not strong as elephant. We cannot fly like birds. We cannot swim as deep as blue whale. We cannot hear some thing like bats hear. We cannot see some things that cats and dogs did. Plus many other things.
God doesn't even need us to worship Him. His power and greatness doesn't even reduced by a micron or even smaller even when we doesn't worship Him.
Let's see. Numbers. If its true human created it, the why until now we do not find the beginning of numbers? The end of numbers? We humans just found it and use it for our comfort. Until now we only know the middle of number which is zero.
Some people says this religion is ridiculous, some say it fallacy, or to be exact, its human who preach the religion. Not from God Himself.
I think if there's a sentence written on the moon where we can see it but not reach it since old times and it says:
"Dude, God dos exist. You know that? I tell you, God do exist. It's somewhere. Find it and you will found it. Duh."
People will 100% believe there is God.
I believe in religion because:
-Religion content me from doing anything bad. Although sometimes our own natural desires surpass the limitations of religion, there's always a chance to redo it as long I believe it.
-I know who am I. I am weak. And I need God's help and protection in evitable/unevitable, unforeseen circumstances.
The core of morality itself come from the religion. Religion teach us to bury the dead, or burn the body to ashes, or other things, and people treat it from time to time and came out 'COMMON SENSE'.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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