Zenith..why would you want to do that. Its enough that these people are taking advantage of a great game, lets not have serious gamers getting sucked into this as well..

Please take it back ok?

lol he just messing around la , i would like to do that also... if i know how isit doing/process... wah when make money i can pay my wow bill, internet bill and electric bill, and if got SO much money can pay wow bills for guild members who help me finding dreadmist.. wahh im so generous

It's not easy to sell gold... You risk your account, and it's hard to find a buyer (unless u have contacts).

And I won't sell any gold unless I really farm like crazy... I rather play WoW as a game (where I use my gold to buy stuffs in-game) and not as a job. 400g to go for my epic mount.

wey, joking only ler, im not that crazy to risk my acc , this game have save me from buy other ori/lowyat game.

wah can u fund transfer to me? like interbank-transfer from Dragonmaw to Proudmoore?Super LOL

I wonder when la "character transfer" will be implement, isit possible? or just rumor?

Guys

Checkout the latest on PVP Honour System...how cool are the rewards!!!:)

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/pvp-article-part2.html

The mounts and battle standards sound cool, but I'll hold up saying the same for the 'epic' EQ. Not all epics are very good.

One thing I would like to comment about is what blizz considers an Honourable Kill. ATM, HK is any PVP-enabled (PC or NPC) within your level - just like how you get XP from kills i.e lvl not grayed out. My concern is, in terms of Player characters, how honourable is it when two or more PC ganged up on one opponent?

Example: You have two lvl 32 hunters attacking a lvl 33 warrior. That's a 4 vs 1 fight (don forget two pets!).. I can take on three of them but four is just too much..for mean you shouldnt get any HK points

p/s This happened to me yesterday at TM, the last pet got me just as I executed the hunter... ...heheh

Every PVP kill regardless of your opponent level is considered an honerable kill.(the points given might defer depending on ur level, opponents level adn PVP level, but its still an honarable kill) Go read the preview again. U only get a dishonarable kill by killing greyed out NPC's.. and even by doing so u will still not get penalized for anything. SO to answer your question.. yes ganking will still continue. YAY!!!!

I suggest you go read the preview again.



Still, I wish they would penalise, tho I don't have to worry about being ganked.

I understand how the proposed system will work, my grudge is that they should look and improve the PC vs PC PVP so that ganking will be reduced. My point is what's so honourable about winning a bout where you significantly outnumber your opponent.

Granted, five lvl 30 killing a lvl 40 is a huge achievement and something like this can be considered a HK but if the disparity between level is minimal and you win an uneven fight, it shouldnt be considered a HK. Should it be a DK..? No, but not a HK as well

p/s Killing grayed PC also gets you a DK...and you will get penalized..read earlier postings on the Hounour system

This post has been edited by JonyFinger: Mar 10 2005, 10:40 AM

Technically it's only dishonorable if there has been a 1 on 1 duel decided. Otherwise, it's as honorable as any other kill.

eg. A band of heroes group up together to kill a tyrant. How many times has this happened in fantasy fiction?

Hope I made my point clear.

Yup, so true..but the tyrant is always significantly more powerful than a SINGLE hero..that's why the hero needs help to level up the playing field, make it a FAIR fight

Drizzt with Wufgar and Catie-brie, Walker Boh and the Shannara kids, Pug with Tomas and Jimmy, Belgarion with belgarath and silk..to name a few...

I have long accepted the act of ganking and I myself have been guilty of it on numerous occasion.. . I just dont feel that it should be rewarded, that's all

just my 2 sen..

This post has been edited by JonyFinger: Mar 10 2005, 11:03 AM

It's still not a matter of honor, regardless of levels, unless it's 1 on 1 duel.

Guess it's time to farm the chinese farmers for PVP rewards!

EDIT: From the sounds of it, if a group of players get a HK, the points will be spread out among the group depending on damage done, so they'll be less points for each individual member if they were in a group than if the kill was made one on one. But if you're really concerned about getting ganged-up and ganked, then maybe a PVP server might not be for you (TM is just the tip of the ganking iceberg). Non-PVP servers will have PvP rewards and Battlegrounds anyway.

Now, now...there's no need to pass judgement fly my man...

If im not into PVP, i wont be in the server would i? I can more than hold my own when being ganked upon. Im not one of those peeps who just because it seems to be a lost cause, they just stand around and let themselves being ganked...me i fight back, get my licks in eventhough i know the gankers got me good.

Not judging (i'm the biggest carebear in my PvP server guild), but you've said yourself that the honour rules for PC vs PC PvP should be improved so that ganking will be reduced (I'm quoting you word for word here). And from the sounds of the honour rules, HK's are given for any kills of a toon that's not below a certain level range from your own. That's what we know at the moment. This means that it'll prolly disregard the situtational variables that the kill takes place in. Let me explain.

If you think that many vs. one fights should count as dishonourable (which it might be, since Blizz hasn't been completely specific as to what counts as a dishonourable kill yet), then there's plenty of other situations were kills would be 'dishonourable' as well.

If you get PvP'ed while you were fighting a mob, or while you were in the middle of medding, is that a dishonourable kill as well? What about if you had rez sickness? In the minds of some, such kills should be 'dishonourable' as well, and that the PvP honour rules should be tweaked to punish those who make such kills as well.

Unfortunately, it's going to be a pain in the ass to implement, which is why Blizz is most likely going to go for a simple 'If player lvl X kills player lvl < (X - 10) (or some other number), he'll get a dishonourable kill, with honour points spread out according to damage dealt'. There's too many other variables to take into account to filter out the truly 'honourable' and 'dishonourable' kills.

If anything, the rate of ganking (the type where a PC PvPs another PC in the middle of a mob fight, not the killing of some lowbie 20 lvls below) and zerg rushing is going to be nuts during the first week or so that the PVP honour system gets implemented. It won't be a good time to be non-lvl 60 on PVP servers that's for sure.

(Edited because I suck in math)

Unfortunately, that won't work for us on RP servers.

Yes, i agree with your statements, there are too many variables that need to be implemented to make the Honour system satisfactory to each and everyone. As such, we are stuck with the current situation and have no other choice but to adapt (basically suck it up la..heheheh).

I do hope that eventually blizz will come up with something....

p/s my apologies for passing judgement myself...

This post has been edited by JonyFinger: Mar 10 2005, 03:04 PM

When will this patch coming to us? l can't find the date on the site or it is my eye got problem? -.-"

The patch probably comes to us after next week's maintenance (it's posted on the european wow website that it'll get to them at next friday's maintenance, so no reason why we should get it later than them unless they're treating europe as test servers )

Anyway on the PvP honor system... Currently the only dishonorable kills are from those 'civilian' types of NPCs. Everyone else is fair kill. Blizzard is impleteing the HONOR system, so they do not plan to DISHONOR anyone even if it's in the case of 5v1 ganking. So try to travel in groups from now on It's just realistic... I mean in a hostile environment, would u travel alone?

Ganking will continue, but the consequences have altered. The ganked (lower level ones) have a chance now to gain honor, while the gankers (higher level ones) will have nothing to gain. For example, a level 60 have NBTD and go to Booty Bay to gank those level 40 people. He gains no honor obviously because of the level difference. But then, somehow the level 40s grouped up together and killed the level 60. They however, gained honor...

Also if you read thru the preview, it's mentioned there that your ranking will deteriorate if you do not keep up on your PvP action and kills. And the rewards you gained can only be used if you are of that PvP rank... I wonder how will that work out... I mean let's say I'm on holidays now, so I get to participate in lots of PvP action. I managed to buy the epic PvP mount. Now, holidays over, so I participated less in PvP. My ranking dropped. Now I can no longer use the epic mount I bought earlier... WTF?