Bro, read la this thread, got some taikors here already stated how to update maps for papago but for your convenience, JB your Iphone or read this post Page 19 only... just backtrack a bit...post by azim61

If u not JB your iphone, then wait for updates via itunes.. free and easy

This post has been edited by liverpool red: Apr 17 2010, 09:54 AM

I know how to do that already.. i used the zip method and sync.. but if did not delete the app in iPhone, the map cant be updated.. so have to delete the app first.. i know there's another SSH method.. but i don like

so any idea how to use Zip method without having to delete my favorites?

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Added on April 17, 2010, 10:49 amI realized that if i shut off my iPhone & reopen it, Papago will take a very looong time to locate the GPS location.. around 5minutes?

And if i open google maps first for it to use AGPS to locate it, then only open Papago to locate, it take lot lot faster coz Papago does not use AGPS..

I think AGPS is good in sense that it takes shorter time to locate the GPS signal.. so not sure why Papago doesn't want to use AGPS.. correct me if i'm wrong..

This post has been edited by jingyong: Apr 17 2010, 10:49 AM

Is TomTom really as good as they make it out to be? I'm thinking about getting it but it costs so much, and I don't wanna get it if it's laggy or has any other problems.

So far I've only seen one GPS program, and that's Garmin on my friend's Nokia N79. Anyone have experiences with both?

Other than social networking, weather and traffic update, all other features are already in Papago M6 Pro. Most experienced user I believe prefer Papago for one reason only, which is POI database. JV function is welcomed as well.

How do the POI in Sygic compare to Papago? I might give it a try if POI database is on par with Papago though seriously I doubt it.

BTW, the traffic update and weather option are also available in Garmin. Weather works fine in Garmin. But the problem is, no developer care enough to set up traffic database here in Malaysia. Any nav app with traffic update and synchronise with routing so it can avoid traffic jam will be a hit in Malaysia.

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Added on April 19, 2010, 9:27 amPapago do use both GPS and A-GPS. If you turn off location services and open PPG, you will be prompted to switch on the location services. That will explain why our locaton can be detected even in a building.

And if you turn off the iPhone, it's common sense that signal will take quite sometime to lock.

Data on your last known location will be gone and at the same time, the satellites are already moving. The longer you leave PPG unused, the longer it will take to get a signal. And let say if you move to faraway location from the last location you've used your PPG, the signal will be hard to come by as well.

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Added on April 19, 2010, 9:37 amI presume you're a newbie in GPS arena?

If your judgement is based on the current poll rating, I believe it's not as accurate as you think. TomTom came up top way before PPG is released.

Some may prefer TomTom and Sygic for their polished UI.

But others including myself prefer an app that do what it supposed to do. PPG is my choice simply because it's heart and brain comes from Malfreemaps, a community in Malaysia and Singapore comprise of mappers that update every single places and road that they can find. It's a localised, customised by our own local people. And who know the place better than local anyway?

If you look at Googlemaps for example, there are lots of places and road network still not updated, perhaps 1-2 years old database. TomTom if I'm not mistaken also depends on the same POI provider.

BTW take some time to read thru all the posts in this thread for more understanding.

This post has been edited by mmmbop: Apr 19 2010, 09:37 AM

Papago do use both GPS and A-GPS

I wish people would stop spreading false information.

This post has been edited by angelflames: Apr 19 2010, 09:57 AM

And how is that so?

Care to explain rather than brutally rejected other's explanation?

mind to share bro.....

I guess he/she simply digest everything that has been put up in Papago's iTunes description. Never mind. Let her/him explain.

mind if i ask how long do u guys usually take to lock the GPS? lets say in open area, totally no obstruction at all? and inside car with some buildings beside u along the road?for me, it took me around 5-10 seconds on north south highway but along road with buildings, even 2 minutes also havent lock.. i already drove so long also havent lock.. hehe

hi.... i'm looking forward to purchase gps for iphone 3gs, is Papago a highly recommend one for malaysia and singapore user? mind sharing ur experience. thanks.. btw.. any lite version to be tested? on the other hand, should i purchase pro version or? thanks a lot

Papago is half price of tom tom ... hmm ... means quality also half ?

and i have search itune store, no lite for gps ...

In term of functions, Tomtom is far superior than Papago. Papago looks very basic. No route preview, cannot set alternate route, cannot set multiple destination, cannot enter coordinates, UI not as smooth as Tomtom etc.

However, Papago uses Malfreemap, which is the best map for Malaysia, and far superior than Tomtom's Teleatlas map. Don't dare using Tomtom to get you to a street in Temerloh, Pahang for example. As Malfreemap is a community project, it's constantly updated by people, including me

Personally I can live with functionally inferior Papago with 1st rate map.

There's no free/trial/version of Papago. Papago is cheaper than Tomtom because Malfreemap is free, Tomtom's Teleatlas map is not. Papago lite is abit cheaper without 3D building & junction view. The Pro version is worth the extra price, junction view is useful to navigate through tricky lanes around Klang valley.

Personally i like Sygic. I dunno about Sygic Aura but i use 2009's Sygic release. It always get me to the destination.

I dun like:

Papago - interface a bit cheapo
TomTom - not so user friendly
igo - did not like interface too and options.

Just my 2cents lah but i tried looking for Navigon, cant find. Anyone?

hi guys, my papago used to be working fine but recently i only noticed that sometimes there's no voice navigation even though i didn't change anything in the settings.. but sometimes have.. anyone experiencing similar problem?

last time when open the papago, it will say 'searching satellite', then 'satellite search complete' but now also cannot hear that voice liao..

This post has been edited by iori57: Apr 22 2010, 12:42 AM

A question. Do you bought all of the stated apps?

Do you consider a GPS nav app a better app based on POI or UI?

I consider a good GPS that works as claimed. An app that help me get to those remote and unfamiliar places without even have to ask a single local for direction.

The first moment PPG was out, I already considered to buy it only to wait for better price. When it dropped, no hesitation at all to splash the cash. For one reason only, MfM.

Otherwise better not having any GPS nav app at all.

The only reason I still using Papago is because most updated map.. if sygic/tomtom use mfm map.. I sure change to either of these one

Various friends use different apps hence i tested most of it. Like i said, it's personal on what platform you choose to use, i just like my Sygic. May PPG fans here too i see.

CheerS!

Some of us are mappers. So we are quite clear in which app to use.

I merely think that only full user of the apps has the right to comment as they will have the true experience in using the apps. Hence, the right to hate or love the app.

Newbie to GPS. I know how to use it well enough, but how does someone using Papago M6 for example, contribute to POI's etc?

Thanks.

Well, after a few days of using it, here's what I've got to say. I can't make a comparison with Papago as I did not use it heavily so I'm not in a position to say which is better than the other in terms of POI databases etc. I used mainly Tom Tom previously.

Based on my usage, lock on wise it's certainly fast and from the looks of it, it does seem to use A-GPS as it managed to locate me in various difficult conditions pretty quickly.

Usability wise, I'd say my experience on it has been very pleasant. The searching, and so far the POI database seems to be quite decent. At least most of the shops that are generally new in my area (appearing within the last 3 months) seem to be present. UI wise, I'd say is a really much more refined experience. Searching for locations, address and POI etc was quite intuitive.

Routing wise, I found it to be very good. Putting it through some difficult situations and intentional mis-driving, the re-routing calculation was done pretty quickly and instantly.

Stability and speed wise is good.

I have not had the opportunity to test most of the online features as they have been having some issues with their servers i presume, but the weather feature was acceptable. I'll comment more on this part of Sygic once they've sorted out the issues they had with their online services. In regards to the traffic, and whether it integrates with routing, I am not able to test that as traffic integration seems to be a work in progress. I can check with them if it does integrate traffic info as part of routing or is it just for display purposes. Planning to ask them as well how's the traffic info integration going on as I had a talk with them last year on this topic.

Like saturniq mentioned, it's really a personal choice as to which app we choose to use. My take on it overall? I like the app. Very much so I use it more than Tom Tom now mainly because it's really quite user friendly and intuitive and it's fast as well. Most importantly it fulfills my requirements. I'm hoping that when their online services bit comes back into action, there will be more to see, but overall it has certainly replaced Tom Tom as my usual GPS app. Wish I had it when I was in Singapore, the walk function would have been pretty handy there. Most of the time Tom Tom just made me go in circles just to get say to a MRT station.

Problem wise, they've got some bugs, e.g online services and their map engine, although quite well optimized needs some work as I've encountered some bugs during my test period.

Guess that's about it for now and hope that the points above have been useful:)

This post has been edited by perror: Apr 22 2010, 11:50 PM