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Battlegrounds (PVP) 2009 MLG Pro Circuit Anaheim, 3v3 Arena Tournament

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post Nov 10 2009, 11:20 AM

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So RMP is the CViper/Akuma of WoW.

Beast is Sagat (Fagat).
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post Nov 10 2009, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Nov 10 2009, 11:20 AM)
So RMP is the CViper/Akuma of WoW.

Beast is Sagat (Fagat).
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not ryu? WOM reference or wut? lol
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post Nov 10 2009, 02:40 PM

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Just watched some replays, thats some crazy play by BB... crazy saps and interupts by hiren and orange. Quite sad cant see orange in arcane.. Arcane wont stand a chance against all those pets pushback + purge.

Any other rmp wouldnt stand a chance against that Bestial wrath + bloodlust + hex + purge + grounding totem + tremor totem + flare + deterrence + bop.

Scary shit, just throw your mouse n keyboard and prepare to die in 3 gcds

This post has been edited by geno: Nov 10 2009, 03:10 PM
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post Nov 10 2009, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(geno @ Nov 10 2009, 02:40 PM)
Just watched some replays, thats some crazy play by BB...  crazy saps and interupts by hiren and orange. Quite sad cant see orange in arcane.. Arcane wont stand a chance against all those pets pushback + purge.

Any other rmp wouldnt stand a chance against that Bestial wrath + bloodlust + hex + purge + grounding totem + tremor totem + flare + deterrence + bop.

Scary shit, just throw your mouse n keyboard and prepare to die in 3 gcds
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70% pushback resist on arcane lol...

its not so much the pushback + purge, in fact, arcane would fare better than frost if those 2 were the reason. Its merely the control from frost such as its snares/roots and deepfreeze, and most importantly, 2 blocks and shatters.

hell, during 1 match against check6, on nagrand, the camera angle was just f***ing perfect showing how orange stood still hardcasting bolts with everything in his face (small little gnome, and BIG RED PET + TWO feral WOLVES)

dang, thats one thing no mages ive seen do lol...
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post Nov 10 2009, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 10 2009, 06:42 PM)
70% pushback resist on arcane lol...

its not so much the pushback + purge, in fact, arcane would fare better than frost if those 2 were the reason. Its merely the control from frost such as its snares/roots and deepfreeze, and most importantly, 2 blocks and shatters.

hell, during 1 match against check6, on nagrand, the camera angle was just f***ing perfect showing how orange stood still hardcasting bolts with everything in his face (small little gnome, and BIG RED PET + TWO feral WOLVES)

dang, thats one thing no mages ive seen do lol...
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post Nov 10 2009, 08:52 PM

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Where do you guys watch the replays?
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post Nov 10 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Nov 10 2009, 08:52 PM)
Where do you guys watch the replays?
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gotfrag.com is currently looping replays lol.
no hd/bigger reso "on demand" replays yet though


anyways, done on the final update, will be posting a conclusion post soon ^^;
http://www.quazacolt.com/wow/2009/11/world...ircuit-anaheim/
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post Nov 10 2009, 11:45 PM

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while waiting for next match watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXTMuqH12UE


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post Nov 11 2009, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 10 2009, 06:42 PM)
70% pushback resist on arcane lol...

its not so much the pushback + purge, in fact, arcane would fare better than frost if those 2 were the reason. Its merely the control from frost such as its snares/roots and deepfreeze, and most importantly, 2 blocks and shatters.

hell, during 1 match against check6, on nagrand, the camera angle was just f***ing perfect showing how orange stood still hardcasting bolts with everything in his face (small little gnome, and BIG RED PET + TWO feral WOLVES)

dang, thats one thing no mages ive seen do lol...
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Yeah but usually arc mages(57/3/11 or 60/0/11) dont spec into arcane stability for the pushback as there are more important talents (arcane focus and sublety for dispel protection and reduce mana consumption, besides icy veins up will make up for it as it provides 100% pushback protection. Yea, frost definitely has alot more utility especially against beast cleave not to mentioned icy veins can be used twice due to cold snap. Imo where arcane shines is when they are up against rmp mirrors.

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post Nov 11 2009, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(geno @ Nov 11 2009, 09:54 AM)
Yeah but usually arc mages(57/3/11 or 60/0/11) dont spec into arcane stability for the pushback as there are more important talents (arcane focus and sublety for dispel protection and reduce mana consumption, besides icy veins up will make up for  it as it provides 100% pushback protection. Yea, frost definitely has alot more utility especially against beast cleave not to mentioned icy veins can be used twice due to cold snap. Imo where arcane shines is when they are up against rmp mirrors.
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arcane is almost non existant tongue.gif
rmp mirror or not, frost is massive control that arcane couldn't offer

what arcane can offer, is f***ing wizardcleave/spellslings LOL
(though if you dont have ms, might as well get frost for 20%)
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post Nov 12 2009, 12:00 PM

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Nah you dont get my point, i was referring to the tourneys that were happening. They already know which comp they were up against and their playstyle. My thought is, u cant compare sk100 on popular specs used. Coz those are from arena ques, frost being an all rounder spec and since you wont know what comp ur up against till that big door of arena opens. Thus for arena ques, frost is a no brainer. I run frost myself in arena ques. 20% of ms is redundant in rmp since rogue wounding poison wont stack.

Problem with rmp is priest mana pool/regen, priest find it hard to keep up in terms of mana as compared with other healers especially the nature of rmp comp being offensive comp. But priest offer the best aoe cc/aoe dispel/mana burn/mitigation + heals.

Btw, look harder mate.. that u list u gave has a 15% mages arcane speced and 33% arcane 60/0/11 in detailes specs. lawl

Cheers

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post Nov 12 2009, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(geno @ Nov 12 2009, 12:00 PM)
Nah you dont get my point, i was referring to the tourneys that were happening. They already know which comp they were up against and their playstyle. My thought is, u cant compare sk100 on popular specs used. Coz those are from arena ques, frost being an all rounder spec and since you wont know what comp ur up against till that big door of arena opens. Thus for arena ques, frost is a no brainer. I run frost myself in arena ques.  20% of ms is redundant in rmp since rogue wounding poison wont stack.

Problem with rmp is priest mana pool/regen, priest find it hard to keep up in terms of mana as compared with other healers especially the nature of rmp comp being offensive comp. But priest offer the best aoe cc/aoe dispel/mana burn/mitigation + heals.

Btw, look harder mate.. that u list u gave has a 15% mages arcane speced and 33% arcane 60/0/11 in detailes specs. lawl

Cheers
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yeah and on the recent tourneys, no one played arcane lol. frost is still so much better than arcane in many ways. previous tourneys/patch arcane had an edge however it got nerfed (POM+ AP is amongst the biggest nerf, but thats not the only reason) and there is no longer a point to play arcane at all.

and no it isnt redundant as frost 20% is enough buffer time for good rmp swaps and rogues cant instant teleport to targets (yeah, i am aware of lolstep, but play that, you're asking for a quick loss)

and mana pool/regen for rmp is a thing of the past. hymn of hope + shadow fiends is enough tool for priests these day to keep up with other healers. in fact, shamans would be on the lower end of teams are good on taking out tides as they go for crit over mp5 these days. the only people still dominating mana are paladin/druids but compared to the old days (season 2-4 druids lol) their dominance over mana longevity compared to priest (of course, player controls varies) are not as apparent as before. heck, if you've seen the 25minute BB match, you'll understand that VERY fully. numberone keeping both people alive with under 500 mana LOL!

oh and read harder on my prev post: "arcane is almost non existant"
i am perfectly aware people still play arcane, but with the insane majority of people on frost, what does it matter? and since you mention tourneys with people knowing who/what they are facing as opposed to random encounters during live, every single team's mage stuck with frost AFAIK/IINM every single round lol.

i am not denying arcane being good/viable, its just frost having an edge, thats all. if anything, arcane in spellsling/wizard cleave setups can be complete retarded as ive taken 12k arcane blast crit with 920 resilience (armory: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...le&n=Quazacolt) and yes i am being entirely serious not sarcastic or joking at all.
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post Nov 12 2009, 04:53 PM

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Yeah bro im just highlighting to u that its not "almost non existant" in the sk100.

Yeah the burst is damn gay since ab can be on 4x stack now and mana consumption is not as bad. You can also see that wiz cleave is very popular in korean realms. And pookz has just left sk.us to join a wiz cleave setup.


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post Nov 13 2009, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(geno @ Nov 12 2009, 04:53 PM)
Yeah bro im just highlighting to u that its not "almost non existant" in the  sk100.

Yeah the burst is damn gay since ab can be on 4x stack now and mana consumption is not as bad. You can also see that wiz cleave is very popular in korean realms. And pookz has just left sk.us to join a wiz cleave setup.
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to clarify, pookz is still on SK US until his contract expire tongue.gif

just that on live, hes playing wiz cleave with azael lock. (both WOM bloggers LOL!)

 

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