If you used to IPS panel color, and when you look at TN... you'll regret selling your IPS, believe me the color accuracy is noticeable.

If you don't mind the color thing, and want it for gaming and movie only then it's ok to consider TN panel.
But if you photoshop lot, need very precise color on the screen, consider 24" IPS panel.

Does any PC shop at KL display IPS panel on the shelve? I would be WOW!
Anyhow, you won't feel much different if you just watching movie.
My cheapo Samsung 2333SW does below average, acceptable for gaming and movie.

1920x1080 (1080p) is also known as Full HD. (for now)

Backlit bleeding, my Samsung 2333SW also having quite bleed at both side only, but those salesman told me every model beyond 20 inch will have this kind of problem =.=;; aih.. cheapo model... no comment T.T;;

But I do notice those LED backlit has less bleed problem, like Dell G2410. Maybe spend more to get LED backlit? 0.0"

Oh.. maybe in normal office light condition, you see no problem, like how I make a decision on the Samsung 2333SW, was pure regret.
The backlit bleed only shows when you in a dark room and watching "dark" movie, very noticeable.
If you search for G2410 reviews, you'll actually notice one review, the author called Dell 3 times to exchange the monitor and still the same problem, backlit bleeding, very very small but noticeble in a dark room.
I do notice some of the very expensive model (Samsung) also having backlit bleeding when I take a very close look, 2~3 inches away when the screen turn dark or black.
Some ppl said it's due to the contract and brightness setting? You can try it out with less brightness and see the different.
Oh yeah, my previous 19" has totally no backlit bleed, so to my surprise first time with 23"

Matte screen does not reflect too much lightning, which is great for watching movie, while I don't see much effect from my glossy laptop screen, the only complain is glossy screen can't really work on a too bright condition, ex. under sun light.
And from experience and googling, you might notice better dark color on matte screen.
Size wise is only up by 0.6~1 inch, which I don't think has much different.

May I know the price and date that you purchase both of those. Probably Samsung one is cheapo... that's why it's not so good

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Mar 30 2010, 02:12 PM

Can you use camera (without flashlight and night mode) to post the picture of your monitor here? Allow the room to be as dark as possible, no light better.
Use screensaver with blank screen mode.

I'll post mine tonight... hehe... hopefully I don't forget.

And that's LED back-lit right? Have seen G2410 before but... really like to see the result of LED back-lit from Acer.

Anyway, CNET gave a very bad reviews to this model... no offence

Yeah, that's the expression I have on my 2333SW, I was like... WHAT THE.... *CENSORED*, like almost every single bad words came out, and only went back to shop after 2 days, and they said can't 1-on-1 exchange after 1 day, oh dear... then I also have a look at the very same model, having the same issue too, just need to look very carefully and very near to notice it. This same goes to every P series that they have on shelve, most expensive P2370 also same

Also looking from the side of 2333SW with black screen, notice also brightness does not distribute evenly across screen, advertised 5ms is actually 16ms upon using LCD tester..... sigh... I can only comment, that's what you get for what you paid T.T

Was looking forward the stylish XL2370, but... no VGA port, which I want for my Intel Atom (switch between use).

It seems Samsung has develop cheaper TN with the expenses of build quality, wish they improve on that, and also, legacy VGA port should be there to accommodate wider consumer (hey, I still using VGA card duh!!)

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Mar 31 2010, 09:49 AM

Hard to find any brand of that size with your budget, I'm referring from PC Zone March 26 price list.

Top up RM200 more to get LED back-light, will not disappoint you.

Or, pull down to 20" and you should find lots of model on RM400 price range.

Should you able to wait, PIKOM is just around the corner, you *maybe able to find cheaper one.

Umm... I think I just saw an update, haven notice this morning.

Dell G series 24" just updated, now... the stand is... walao eh...
... this type of stand that only available in high-end IPS panel is now available for the TN panel at the SAME PRICE!!!

Drop drop drop in price and I'll beg my cousin to order for me xD" tempting like *duuuuu...* ROFL

How about Dell ST2410? It has all the ports HDMI, VGA & DVI, but only come with VGA cables, maybe you can find 1 with bundle DVI cable and better price locally, online price is RM679.

Tell us your monitor model, depends on the monitor, it might have 1 VGA and 1 DVI, so you can connect your PC to the VGA port and your TV Box to the DVI port.
But according to my friend whom using LG LCD Monitor, it has both DVI and VGA port but you can't change during use (no function to switch), and so you can only use 1 port at any 1 time.

If you don't mind there's no HDMI, just VGA and DVI, then go for Dell G2410, now the latest model even has HAS stand, not just tilt, can adjust height... cool!
It's the cheapest for LED backlight LCD TN panel.

Yes, according to review at CNet.
http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/dell-...7-33581193.html

The contrast and brightness even win the later Acer S243HL which is also LED back-light, and better than its brother Ultrasharp 2408WFP.
The rest is practically very technical and only *eagle* eye can catch those differences.
Now Dell already face out this model and replace it with G2410H, of which has HAS stand just like its Ultrasharp's brothers.

Just wish Dell could put more oomph to its response rate, 5ms after so many years... even Samsung already has 2ms for its 23~24" model last year.

I'm not sure about LCD TV price nowadays but good one with Full HD is RM3k+ at least?

If you don't mind about TN panel, ST2410 is way to go, HDMI support... exactly for Home entertainment, CCFL backlight.
U2410 however is IPS so expect price difference from TN and you can't compare TN and IPS, IPS for teh pro (in graphics).

Anyway if you have many people watching, go for LCD TV for the sake of size.

I'm using Intel Atom N270 VGA connect to my Samsung 2333SW (1920x1080).
I must say, lag? nope, game? certainly no... I don't play games using integrated graphics.

So, to conclude your frustration, the answer is "there's no constraint or overload" unless you're using 20 years old Intel Pentium II integrated graphics.

Samsung LED back-light are still far expensive, I would get Dell G2410H but not for everyone due to lack of HDMI port.

And, as far as I have seen, the Samsung TN panel quality is getting poorer by the day, maybe due to manufacturing cost, it's getting cheaper.

If you want to get Samsung, go for the latest LED back-light, around RM1,000 and the display is a wonder.
http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/samsu...7-33683882.html

I have no recommendation of Acer product, since it has bad reputation (never have one before) and the review also very bad.
http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-...9.html?tag=also
My personal opinion, the stand is fugly, like lizard with elephant leg.

LOL? Found first link on google, guess you need to learn how to search using accurate keywords

G2410H is using LED backlight, better contrast & brightness for darn sure, picture quality and color wise still pretty much the same, it's still TN panel in case you're wondering.
If you want reviews, try google "CNET reviews G2410" (older model w/o the HAS stand).
Ah, yes, if you want HDMI, better skip this, only VGA and DVI.

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: May 2 2010, 05:55 PM

i) I have seen G2410 before, nope, no reflective screen like their laptop do.

ii) Dead pixel does not matter backlight, it's the LCD panel that matter, so backlight does not concern.
Dead pixel(s) usually depends on your luck, and Dell can do 1-on-1 exchange by deliver it to your door step, so I won't worry about Dell's services, and if you're going to keep more than 3 years, get 5 years warranty from them.

This model does receive a darn good review, you won't regret, I want to get one too but due to budget and already has 1 stupid purchase and now can't sell it

Oh yeah, anyone here has Dell IPS and Dell G2410*? Compare for us ler, I want to see the different, or on it. (Picture, of course)

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: May 3 2010, 09:05 AM

Backlight problem or dead pixels? backlight still able to replace the CCFL, but dead pixels... say bb, get new one.
And latest LED backlight... wow.. making backlight even harder to repair.