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Json188
post Nov 24 2009, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(hpares @ Nov 23 2009, 10:01 PM)
After few test, it seems only my media player classic facing this problem. Although sometimes i did notice also in game. Any solution? Because I already used to media player classic, and somehow i feel the picture quality in media player classic is better compare to zoom player and window media player. Any other nice recommendation?
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ur codec is the latest version?

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post Nov 28 2009, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Nov 28 2009, 10:47 PM)
ic...
so stil as gd as 2333sw...?
coz from d freakscore web...
2333sw score kinda high...
so i take dis lcd without hesitation...
but prefer P2450...
jz d price...
haiz...
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2333sw is old model ady but still very nice..
if u mind the price of p2450,then u can consider for p2370hd which almost same spec with p2450..
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post Nov 29 2009, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Nov 29 2009, 12:12 AM)
but p2370 lacks brightness compared to p2450 n p2350.. nod.gif
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i wrote there p2370hd..
you have problem reading?
p2370hd is upgrade version of p2370 which even include hdmi port..
and it's score 9.4/10 in testfreak.com..
the price if i'm not wrong..which i seen about 2 weeks ago is 700~800...

and sometimes dun just compare the specs between things..
think about your usage..and your own requirement...
find something that suits you and not always going for higher specs..
plus human eyes are't that great to notify so big difference with 50cd/m2 if u using it in normal environment....
it's just like a non-gamer person buying a nvidia 295GTX or radeon 5890...why waste so much money that u won't fully ultilise the thing...?

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post Nov 29 2009, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Nov 29 2009, 01:50 AM)
i tot p2370hd just add hdmi port compared to p2370..
thx 4 correcting me..
n there's no need to be mad about bro.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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no la..
sometimes just frustrating when heard ppl said this 1 no good compare to bla bla when they dun really research anything..
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post Nov 30 2009, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(selferino @ Nov 30 2009, 12:33 AM)
i got my reasons, fps, im getting sick being stuck at 60 fps, i get headache playin l4d after only 1 hour, i did some reasearch, the game need 2 reach 75hertz coz of flicker, since nw my lappie lcd only can max 60 fps in game coz of 60hertz sad.gif
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to tell you this, my monitor is on 75hertz and still can see flicker when playing games....
and fps != refresh rate...
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post Nov 30 2009, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(selferino @ Nov 30 2009, 01:02 AM)
i noe not the same, juz u actually need higher refresh rate to reach higher fps rate, i noe they r not the same, anyways no recommendations?
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aiks..
u dun really know what i mean...
monitor refresh rate don't have anything to do with your fps but your gc does...

the very truth is i played l4d and check the fps where my fps is higher than 100++ when my monitor is in 75hertz..
and i run dmc4 benchmark my fps is at around 85..
so do you still think refresh rate can limit your fps?

if you see a line when playing in your monitor..
that's mean monitor refresh rate is not fast enough to generate the graphics as it skip the process to generate the current frame and straight away generate the next frame...

QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Nov 30 2009, 01:15 AM)
lols...
fps != refresh...
+1...
but...
if higher d refresh...
d screen look smoother...
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of course higher the better la..price also higher the better ma...
who dun noe..

but back in the topic, just telling him that

1. refresh rate is not related to fps in anyway..
2. 75hertz is still not enough in gaming as in my case, i still see lines when playing games..

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post Nov 30 2009, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(selferino @ Nov 30 2009, 02:02 AM)
i noe i noe bechmark sure can go above 60fps, but the INGAME fps still stuck at 60fps max, using command cl_showfps u can see, so u gonna say its still useless ur thr is actually recommending me some lcd that i wanted?
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it's the settings of your game that matter the fps as some game u can set fps max at certain point..some 60,some lower..but never above 60..
you can try set it to variable fps if the game provides this settings

though here i include links for reference for you when considering buying lcd:
refresh rate wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate

frame rate/fps wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate

screen tearing wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing

vertical sync wiki that can prevent screen tearing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_sync

and as nowadays manufacturers wouldn't pointed their monitor reponse time more than refresh rate which indirectly related to refresh rate..
this is the article u might get some knowledge:
http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_8.html

as previous person said about this, above 19" hardly can find a model with 75hz..
and i only interested in 2 brand which is samsung and dell..
i dun have idea to recommend you as i now focusing on 24" monitor...
if u want u can get my current monitor model = samsung 19" 943nwx which available to set to 75hz...
you can try search their website or go back the first post here to try read some reviews...

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post Dec 1 2009, 08:07 AM

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samsung p2450 or p2370hd?
p2370hd and p2450 specs are same except for the price and size where 2370hd is slightly smaller and cheaper around rm80~100
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post Dec 1 2009, 09:12 AM

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trade zone got ppl selling around the price i mention..
even ebay ppl also selling in that price..but sadly none of them are from malaysia..so by add up delivery..u imagine yourself
dude..
keep in mind that cnet only put regular release price only and will update when there is great change in price range..

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post Dec 1 2009, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Dec 1 2009, 12:06 PM)
AOC F19 and LG W2043S? Which ones should i go? AOC rm 420 and LG rm408?
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if me i'll go for LG..
cz AOC only famous for it's angelo monitor..
others even i'm not sure the specs..but the design keep me away from it..
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post Dec 2 2009, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(ooiwbng @ Dec 2 2009, 02:57 AM)
so, compare it to st2410 which is better? since i saw pengster said he got it for RM699 while i'll get mine for RM700. 1 buck goes a long way biggrin.gif
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lol..one bucks never hurt that much...
still lucky you can get that kind of offer..
nice!
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post Dec 2 2009, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(gg8989 @ Dec 2 2009, 10:19 PM)
p2370 or h233h
which one better?
need opinion..
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h233h..
but if compare with p2370hd, p2370hd will be better..
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post Dec 7 2009, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(gg8989 @ Dec 7 2009, 05:25 PM)
i just bought aoc 2434pw...
but no sound why har?
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check your audio setting..
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post Dec 12 2009, 03:58 AM

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QUOTE(jonuslee @ Dec 12 2009, 04:07 AM)
Hi, got one question here.IF i left my Laptop LCD on without any screensaver for long time like  2 to 3 hours at computer idle mode, will it harm the lcd or it will cause dead pixal ?
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not sure it will or not but since i'm doing so and dun have problem with that..
so i guess it might damage the lcd theorotically...
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post Dec 18 2009, 04:03 AM

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QUOTE(LokiD.d.G @ Dec 18 2009, 04:11 AM)
Not really familiar with JB. You'll have to ask someone else.  tongue.gif

Standalone LCD monitors generally have better quality than a your standard laptop screen. Which means the TN panels used in them will have a clear picture than the ones depicted in that link. That said, differences still exist between an IPS and TN panel.
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actually i really don't know why there are so many ppl here so fond of IPS panel.
thereotically where every sources and references said that IPS panel is not so good in gaming as its biggest drawback is the response time is slower if compare to TN panel.
of course nobody can deny that the color reproduction is so nice..
i've seen one myself and compare to TN panel, it's really sharp in color...
please do not compare IPS panel and TN panel in viewing angle, for gaming usage and normal usage, who would need to look at the monitor at awkward angle..?
but since i've nvr use 1 in gaming or movie myself, so i really don't know...

but from what i read..
IPS panel is better for those professional graphics designer..
but TN panel would be nice for those normal people and gamer...as it's cheaper than IPS panel..

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post Jan 4 2010, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(zaidi @ Jan 4 2010, 05:43 PM)
I'm currently using dell 2209wa and 2008fp and very satisfied with them. when I was in Tesco Sg Petani last Sat, I saw AOC (don't know which model) and was amazed by it's quality. unfortunately i can't get the model name, but the price is RM699.

it's 23", do you guys know which model is this?
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aoc angelo 2343pw
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post Jan 21 2010, 04:40 AM

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just bought a aoc angelo..
anybody can tell me how to off the lights of the button below the monitor?
or can let it on 24hours?
cz the button there just keep blinking and distract me..

and one issue that i dun like..
when using windows media player, when i want to change to full screen, it's so slow for the monitor to turn on the full screen mode..
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post Mar 1 2010, 05:52 AM

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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Feb 28 2010, 11:42 PM)
but sadly my budget is less than rm300 T.T
this is the cheapest and smallest i can find in the market edi liaw..
no other brand offering such small form factor at that price.
i think vga also not so bad rite?


Added on February 28, 2010, 11:44 pmand btw, is 8ms framerate considered very slow?
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yes,obviously...
but if you do not mind seeing flicker when playing movie or playing game..
u can still go for it though...
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post Mar 2 2010, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 1 2010, 10:20 AM)
Honestly, I owned 3 LCDs in my life so far and this is my experience:

a) 15" Philips LCD - 35ms
b) Dell E1905FP @ MVA panel - 8ms
c) HP LP2475w @ IPS panel - 5ms

I can notice incredibly ghosting on the old 15" Philips LCD. Well, that's expected as the panel carrying a 35ms spec. However, for both my E1905FP and LP2475w at 8ms and 5 ms respectively, I experienced no ghosting even played fast-paced FPS like Crysis etc. I do watch movie, especially blu-ray source at 1080p, no ghosting as well.

I'm not sure how you guys really could have spotted the ghosting effect from 12ms panel and below. I do have a very sensitive eyes myself and I couldn't notice any ghosting effect at all. I believe, panel with 12ms and below are good to go.

That's just my 2 cents and hope did not offended anyone smile.gif
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i have one 19" Samsung with 5ms before, playing some games will experience flicker, but totally not when playing movie, cz movie doesn't need that fast response rate, cz normal DVD quality is in 29.97fps...

but it was good u can find IPS panel come with 5ms response rate, as because the technology we have now, designing a IPS panel is hard to reach faster response rate than TN panel..
not sure wether it's because of the panel difference cz never have experience with other panel before..

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