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post Dec 9 2009, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(asellus @ Dec 7 2009, 11:03 PM)

My quick take of the new Viewsonic VX2433WM 24" monitor.

I have been looking to upgrade to a FullHD 24", and without too much research, I bought the ViewSonic monitor above. When testing the monitor at the store before buying (with nVidia GPU using HDMI connection), I already noticed that the colors are washed out, too bright I say. Apart from that there are no other visible problems, even after playing some 1080p test videos, so I bought it anyway.

At home, I unpacked the monitor and connected it to a Geforce GT220 via HDMI connection, and with the washed out colors I seen during the store testing, I also have overscan problems that I didn't experience during testing. Apparently, this monitor has two modes of HDMI connection; HDMI PC and HDMI AV (default). Changing the connection type to HDMI PC solves the overscan problem.

Then I moved to solve the washed out color problems, and this is where I spent much of my time in trial-and-error mode. First, I tried to adjust the brightness and contrast settings but to no avail. I also tried to adjust the RGB colors and the result is the same. Stumped, I left the monitor alone as I get some afternoon nap.

After I wake up, I checked my RSS feed and found out that Psyren 95 has come out. I downloaded it and then fired up FastStone Image Viewer to read it. It was here I found out what caused the washed out color problem, and that is, unlike the majority of the computer monitors out there, the new LCD is currently calibrated with TV levels (16-235) instead of the usual PC levels (0-255). To confirm my findings, I played some videos that has some true blacks in it and they come out grey.

As I have no idea how to change the levels, I popped in the included CD and started to read the manual (no printed manual for you here). In one of the pages, the manual says that you can change the 'Display Mode' between RGB and YUV, and the manual says YUV is the HD mode. I changed the setting to YUV, but there are to visible improvements seen in the LCD levels.

I then remembers that nVidia drivers defaulted at passing RGB color format to the monitor if the HDMI connection is used, so I opened the nVidia Control Panel and changed the digital color format from RGB to YCbCr 444 and voila, I now have correct black/white levels! Blacks are not grey anymore and white are not washed out.

The only thing left to do is to fix the gamma curve which is too high, causing the colors to be less vivid compared to my older Samsung 226bw. That was taken care of with Windows 7 calibration utility, but I need to borrow a hardware calibration soon to generate a profile.

After all that, this monitor is quite good actually, after all the headaches fixing the out-of-the-box settings and normalized the gamma curve. I think the monitor started to overscan because it detected that I am passing audio via the HDMI cable. I think the calibration level problem would not be there either if I use DVI connection.
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Does dis means if connect dis LCD via HDMI, i need to do all dis calibrations?? Its quite troublesome iinit?...And also

if connect via DVI does the color still wash-out? and also need to calibrate??..
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post Dec 16 2009, 11:16 PM

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hi wanna ask SIFUs here, im using LCD now with DVI so im quite new to dis HDMI thingy.
The thing i wanna ask is - is HDMI useful only if i plan to connect the LCD with game console>??
If i dont hav PS3 or Xbox isit useful for me to get a LCD with HDMI input??
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post Dec 18 2009, 11:34 PM

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Haih. WHy ALL Dell seller in garage sales all from Penang onli a? sad.gif huhu.KL got no seller a?

Oh btw wanna dizcuzz here, early this year 22" is stil popular, now end of 2009 i notice 23" and 24" is quite common
alredi. SO wat size is coming next ? 25" ? 26" ?.....
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post Dec 31 2009, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Dec 30 2009, 08:41 AM)
I'd say not a major problem but a benefit... There is still 3 years for claim.. for better reversions/panels/firmware. Better not risk bad panels for something minor that I could fix (when out of warranty)
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So when iisit the best time to get a LCD with better reversion/panels/firmware ?. Let jst say for example this
DELL U2410; after 1 year launch? 1 1/2 years? And does dis better reversion/panels/firmware also applies to
other brands , models , manufacturer as well, or jst only for DELL??...
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post Jan 13 2010, 07:24 PM

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@ maDman
Would like to know how u feel about ur ST2410 color production as compare with ur old LCD?
I believe ur old LCD is a Samsung? THx

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post Jan 13 2010, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 13 2010, 07:30 PM)
old LCD is a samsung 226bw

color production looks good to me...im not much of a videophile.....though honestly its hard for me to compare....

was using 8600gt with the 226bw and that card cant handle native reso nicely.

then i bought new GC with the ST2410 one shot...so image is of course better la considering i can run everything at native reso now
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But is ur old Samsung still wit u?? If stil have, since ur on 5870 hook up for some Eyefinity an see la. rclxms.gif
Im abit curious, were ur original plan was getting a IPS panel LCD?..Specifically the U2410??
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post Jan 13 2010, 08:05 PM

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Exactly like wat im thinking right now. Well not exactly, but quite similar. I was thinking of geting a U2410,
but then i think properly i could actually get 2 LCD for the price of 1 U2410. Then i saw u posed ur ST2410 now
kena poison alredi.

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