That LX90 sure looks impressive. But at 24k, isn't it better to buy all separates?

Say you buy:

Onkyo PR-SC5507 pre/pro
Emotiva XPA-5 amp x2

I think total about 15-16k and can get simultaneous 2000W!

Yeah, disadvantage is 3 boxes. But looks very impressive on the rack

Wah if CT Seong can sell LX90 for 15k you gonna grab?

Yup, ironic isn't it? Made in Malaysia but we don't get any benefit from that but instead get charged so much more locally Dontcha just love the price arbitrage played by consumer brands... NOT!

The benefits of XT32 are not only limited to "a very poor room with lots of room gain". All rooms, even a larger one will cause some variation in the freq response. Have you ever used a tool like REW to graph your sub/room? Quite interesting.

Also, you shouldn't only be looking at the issue of room gain but also freq dips. Both should be addressed. One thing I would check with MCACC is whether it even equalizes the sub, some say it doesn't. Some say it only equalizes down to 60Hz. If true that is a major limitation to me. I'm not arguing about whether MCACC or Audyssey is better but just about functionality; if MCACC doesn't eq the sub then that is a major loss of functonality (like the low end Audyssey 2EQ).

You're assuming the LX75/85 is the better sounding receiver. No doubt being the top end Pioneer models they can sound good. But would it sound better than equivalent Denon/Onkyo models, I don't know. Have not compared them.

This post has been edited by jchong: Oct 19 2011, 08:05 AM

Good price indeed. No wonder, because it is from SG.

Dang, our neighbours down south sure get things much cheaper than here.

I just saw that the LX85 is made in Malaysia (like the Onkyos) and still we're screwed on price

This post has been edited by jchong: Oct 19 2011, 08:17 AM

I just checked the xtremeplace forum. The price u mentioned above is even way, way lower than SG!!

The MSRP in SG is $3299 for LX75 and $3999 for LX85. Being so new, I think discounts are small. The fellas in SG are even running to buy from HK instead. In HK the LX85 is HK$13800.

So RM4800 for LX85 is a bargain!

Do keep us informed. Hope the deal is true.

For any room correction solution there are normally 4 adjustments needed:

1. Distance
2. Crossover (related to bass management)
3. Trim or dB level
4. Equalization

I know MCACC does 1-3. Does it do 4?

U sure? I thought ARC does distance. Or maybe they call it something else?

Edit: did some reading, yeah it seems ARC does not auto calculate the distance. Can it be entered manually?

This post has been edited by jchong: Oct 19 2011, 12:31 PM

The problem with trusting your ears is that it is a completely subjective thing. I think the majority of people like the room correction products (be it Audyssey, ARC, YPAO, whatever) and there are those that don't - does it mean the room correction product is wrong? No, it just means there are some people whose preference lie in a different direction.

We all assume our ears are great, but do you really know if your ears are good enough or not? Let's say you invite 10 friends over to come demo your system (which you think sounds good) - 7 say it is lousy, 3 say it is good. Does it mean your system is lousy? Or maybe those 7 just have different tastes? Or maybe they can detect things you can't? Or maybe in the end, you say "who cares what other people say, as long as I like it?". Ultimately, it probably boils down to that.

This post has been edited by jchong: Oct 19 2011, 03:10 PM

It's a matter of budget and priority I guess. Sure, everybody would love a system that has it all, good LFE, detail, soundstaging, etc. But with limited budget, where to spend it first? Upgrade AVR? Add power amp? New speakers? Extra sub?

Perhaps LFE has the most obvious improvement and impact, so people tend to do that first. Then only later move to something else.

Usually the two go hand in hand. As you get a more expensive AVR, the preamp section is better and it comes with better eq capability.

You gotta ask your friend to compare his subs and his configuration to htkaki's.

If his subs are not as good, that is part of the answer. The other important part is also the configuration/setup - you need to maximize the ability of the subs. Just because he has dual subs doesn't mean he automatically gets very good bass. I'm sure you know htkaki has spent a lot of time experimenting with placement and tuning. What you now hear is the result of all that time spent.

Congrats. It's still a very good price for the LX75.

Let us have your review after you've installed it.

Nice pix. What camera did you use?