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PC Audio Please Recommend... a 2.1 or 5.1 speaker set V3, Comparison and advice needed.

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post May 6 2010, 12:42 PM

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Guys, need some help...I need a 2.1 speakers...not for PC but for my Digital Piano. Yeah, i know there are specialized keyboard speakers but those are in thousand of RMs...i have no budget to blow right now after buying the digital piano...

What i need is speakers for music, not bass booming speakers. Any recommendations. Anything below RM400 is within budget.
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post May 7 2010, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(power911 @ May 6 2010, 01:55 PM)
Edifier Studio Series
-R2000T
-R19000TIII

you don't need subwoofer for your use as you don't want boomy bass
so these should suit you plus it saves space

both cost around RM350-RM400 range depends on the seller
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Thanks for the feedback, i'll try to check out those models, but i can't find any reviews online...sad.gif

btw, i am also looking at Creative T20 (series 1)...coz some forumners are selling it cheap at only RM200++. Anyone tried this speaker before? The higher end T40 seems to be out of budget at around RM550 to RM600... cry.gif ...and Creative's top range T3 is at RM8xx.....but seems like getting rave reviews everywhere.

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post May 7 2010, 04:41 PM

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Just went to LowYat to do some auditioning just now.

It was pretty hard to hear as they're mostly playing crap music with either heavy metal or boring bass oriented dance hiphop stuff.
But in between, there are a few songs that is actually music, from which i can at least try to derive some opinions.

Edifier RL19000III - Frankly, not impressed at all....sound is way too muffle.

Creative T-3 - Quite impressive. I think it's the best of the lot of all the speakers there...but of course, price also very best. doh.gif

Sonic A5 and A7 - Can't manage to hear much stuff as most are bass/heavy metal stuff when i try this. But the A7 does sounds better, IMO. But the sub is way too freaky big....sweat.gif


I dunno if it's just me...i've never been impressed with any Edifier speakers.....i tried auditioning them a while back....not impressed then, not impressed now. Hmm....

Too bad there's no Creative T20 or T40 on demo....sigh...

i didn't see any Aego M speakers either...hardly any of the big stores carry this?? hmm.gif

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post May 8 2010, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ May 7 2010, 06:40 PM)
i'm sure the crap you heard not true heavy metal. It certainly some screamo or punk goes whatever cover band.

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Yes, you are right. But the genre nowadays is so blurred now. Maybe a more convenient categorization will be 'generic noise'...LOL.
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post Jul 28 2010, 02:55 PM

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Hmm...i dunno where to ask, might as well starts here.

I'm looking for either 2.0 or 2.1 speakers...but not for PC but for my digital piano (see my siggy...smile.gif. The built in speakers is decent, but a bit lack of loudness (only 7W RMS speaker i think).

I'm looking at Creative T-3, T40 v2.0 and Aego M. Aego M seems kinda nice price..i need good mid and high range, bass not my concern. I have only heard the T3 before, haven't heard the T40 or Aego M yet. Btw, is the subwoofer of T3 bigger than the Aego or the Aego subwoofer is bigger? I prefer smaller speakers...No need huge woofer next to my piano...sweat.gif

Any other good ideas? Budget: Nothing more expensive than a Creative T3!!!

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post Jul 29 2010, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 28 2010, 04:35 PM)
the aego m subwoofer should be longer than t3
maybe bigger too
but the subwoofer is not for serious boom booms like the t3
they are for soft acoustic music example like your piano smile.gif
I'd pick the Aego M because it's the best among the speakers you've mentioned.
Plus it's also called as Audiophile speakers tongue.gif

t40 is nice but I think it's not loud enough like what you have on your piano.

and t3 isn't nice for a piano cuz the subwoofer is too BOOM BOOM for a piano doh.gif
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Thanks for the info. But i think T3 can also do very good mid and high range, the bass might come in handy when i use backing rhytmn to play pop songs though. Playing piano for extended period can be bore...changing phase to other instrument is fun. smile.gif

Do you know anywhere can auditon/listen to the Aego-M?

Some reviews says T40 is quite ok...going by specs it's 14W per channel i think, total 28W. My current speaker only 7W ...so should be sufficient me thinks....but again...dunno where to audition.


Added on July 29, 2010, 4:03 pm
QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jul 28 2010, 06:10 PM)
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Added on July 28, 2010, 6:14 pm

2.0

Harman Kardon Duet II

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2.1

Harman Kardon Sound Stick II

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Hmm...the design is weird.....a bit pricey it seems, but can consider. Will try to check more reviews on these.


Added on July 29, 2010, 4:04 pm
QUOTE(rxy @ Jul 28 2010, 09:27 PM)
Perhaps a Creative T20 can do the job well.
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I think the T20 will be not much louder than the built in speakers.


Added on July 29, 2010, 4:07 pm
QUOTE(Edifier @ Jul 29 2010, 06:26 AM)
Give Edifier R1600, R1900 and R2000 a try smile.gif
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Where to audition these speakers? Frankly, i wasn't really impressed with Edifier speakers. But of course, i haven't heard these models b4. But there seems like no reviews of Edifier speakers on the web?? Maybe it's only sold in Asia??

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post Jul 29 2010, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(rxy @ Jul 29 2010, 04:41 PM)
Hmm,if you are saying T3 is ok,then the HK SS2 would be not pricey.
Maybe you should tell us how loud you want them to be?
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What brand is HK SS2? I googled HK SS2...ends up in PJ SS2...lol.
Updated:
Ok, i get it...Harmon Kardon SoundStick II...haha... i'm not familiar with all these speaker models.

Say u have a RT1900 wanna let go. Have pics?

I don't really need them to be loud. Just about at least 2x louder than the current 6W built in speaker will do, without distortion!. Having a good bass will be bonus for the rhythmn, but it's a 'nice to have' i guess. Physical size must not be too big. Still prefer 2.0 speakers i think.


Added on July 29, 2010, 5:02 pm
QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 29 2010, 04:30 PM)
you can audit most of the speakers at Lowyat Sri Com
Edifier studio speakers are very good too... give them a chance. The R1900T3 is the best among three
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Thanks for the info. smile.gif Otherwise, i thought R2000 is the best among them...u know lar higher number mah. LOL.

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post Jul 29 2010, 05:37 PM

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But how come it's so hard to find ANY reviews on Edifier speakers?? Results returned is 0. Do u have any links to R1900T3 reviews? I think mostly China sites only...guess it's obvious Edifier is China brand.
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post Jul 29 2010, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(rxy @ Jul 29 2010, 05:40 PM)
Indeed,Edifier is China brand but it is engineered in Canada.
It's actually easy to find Edifier speakers review.
http://www.edifier.com/sce/news/viewthread.php?ID=592
One of the Edifier speakers review in a hardware magazine,which can be easily obtained in Malaysia(HWM).
I'll try to find some more.


Added on July 29, 2010, 5:43 pmOk,found the one for Edifier R1900T3
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev...history_state0=
It's translated.


Added on July 29, 2010, 5:46 pmAnother one post for reviews.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/26028/+240
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Thanks for the links. Much appreciated. However, I don't trust HWM reviews at all...frankly, it's pure rubbish and marketing talk...almost everything in the magazine gets a score of 8 and above by default...doh.gif

Still i found the price for the R1900T3 is only RM3xx. Will definitely check it out in the showrooms.
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post Jul 29 2010, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 29 2010, 08:18 PM)
@Matrix
if ure rich u can get Edifier S2000V brows.gif
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bro, just wanna ask...Are you Edifier salesman? Every post u also recommend Edifier wan... hmm.gif

How much is this S2000V btw? Give me good discount ok? LOL.

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post Jul 30 2010, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(rxy @ Jul 30 2010, 10:21 AM)
I tot SS costs more than 700?
Because it has quality and affordable.
Just look over the price of the ones you saw,Creative T3,compared to those in Edifier.
You have wider range of selection in Edifier I'd say.
One more,S2000 IINM costs more than 1k.
It is flagship of Edifier 2.0 speakers.
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But i was never impressed by all the Edifier speakers i heard so far lor...but of course, i haven't the chance to hear the R1900T3 or S2000 yet.

I don't need an expensive speaker for my purpose. I already have a full HT/hifi set with dedicated receiver, woofer and speakers...which is collecting dust coz i don't use anymore...thought of connecting this to my digital piano, but it'll sure look like a fugly frankenstein....Nah...i just need compact small speaker for my purpose.


Added on July 30, 2010, 12:01 pm
QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jul 30 2010, 11:30 AM)
d flagship of Harman Kardon 2.0, d GLA-55 RRP RM4999.

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Wow...the recomendations is getting pricer and pricier...I don't have such a big budget for this or need it!!!

Next thing i know, someone will be recommending me an RM100k speaker....sweat.gif

But why is all the HK speakers looks like Aliens or something?? laugh.gif

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post Jul 30 2010, 08:17 PM

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Just now went to Digital Mall and Highway Laser...

Checked out Creative T3, Edifier R1900T3 and R(S?)2000, Aego M....

In the end, i made a purchase....

But now must go eat dinner coz damn hungry now...

Later...(to be continued...)

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post Jul 30 2010, 10:44 PM

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Just back from dinner, ate Bak Kut Teh...now testing the rig on my Digital Piano.

Initially i was dissapointed caused the low sound seems to gives off some buzz/vibration somewhere...in short the last 1.5 octave of the piano keys all gives off an annoying vibrations!!!!

OMG!!! I thought kanasai...spent so much to get a dodgy goods...

Later try very hard to listen to the source of the vibration...in the end...found the source....it was a nearby old cabinet that kena hentam by the vibrations...so i shift the speakers to the other side....Problems solved 98%. Still can listen to some small buzz occasionally from that cabinet, but it is still acceptable for now, until i figure how to relocate my stuff to better positioning.

Oh yeah...what did i bought....

Let's see:
At Digital Mall i went to AllIT, the only place where i can get some test sounds. Zoom in on the T3, test a bit and look around for the Edifier R1900T3. Asked the salesperson, he pointed out to me the R1900 and 2000 model.

The salesperson told me the R1900T3 no more stock...only display, still i continue to test. What can i say....totally dissapointing.....the sound is muddled and single dimensional...doesn't help by the crappy taiwanese pop songs of Emil Chau blaring out....doh.gif

Next, go back to the T3, still sounds as good as i last heard...i tried to increase the volume...suprisingly, i heard a buzzing sound!! I asked the salesperson about it and he blames the source or something....i suspect it the speaker a bit kaput...coz i've heard many T3's before and nothing like this happened...

The price for T3 is tempting also...promotion only RM799!!!

Anyway, i went to test the Edifier S/R 2000. Now, this sounds a lot better than the R1900T3(or is it that display model also kaput??). It sounds different from the T3...I've switched to and fro between these two. I like the clarity of T3 a bit better. Form factors also plays into consideration. I found the Edifier design is like very dull...and for my purpose, having two speakers on the floor doesn't seems a good idea. Satellites are better for my purpose as i can put it on my digital piano.

Anyway, i've spent quite a while with these 2 models.

Now...at Hiway Laser:
The guy there was very nice. Purposely set up the Aego M for me to test...i feels a bit paiseh...u know ler...high end hifi shop mah...the Aego M is probably the cheaperst speaker in the shop....sweat.gif...

Anyway, he has loads of CDs for me to test, the moment he put in the first CD , i like it already...some sort of reggae music i think. But i'm not into reggae nor it fits my purpose, so request for some instrumental CDs.....yep like it a lot already...can imagine a bit how my digital piano will sound....

Oh....gotta go take bath now.

To be continued.

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post Jul 30 2010, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(rxy @ Jul 30 2010, 11:04 PM)
good,shall wait for your update..


Added on July 30, 2010, 11:13 pm@Matrix:Is this what you seen today?
The one being referred as R/S2000..
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/474557
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Hmm...i don't think so. It looks fuglier. And cost only RM 3xx.


Added on July 30, 2010, 11:28 pm
QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 30 2010, 11:20 PM)
it is indeed geng lol  laugh.gif
but when my friends come and listen most of them will say "I'm dissapointed"
cuz everyone expect BOOM BOOM sounds  doh.gif
it kinda sounded like aego m with the lowest bass setting tongue.gif

@Matrix

lol? where the hell did he find S2000V at AllIT???
cuz I've been searching around there and I don't see any S2000V
I don't think that's S2000V

I've only heard it once at pc fair and that's when they wanna close already tongue.gif
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I dunno lar...maybe it's R2000?? He told me 2000. Dunno wat 2000. Says it's newer series to the R1900T3.

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post Jul 30 2010, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 30 2010, 11:46 PM)
flat sounded like bass and treble at the lowest volume
as if cheap plastic speaker...

@Matrix
it's definitely R2000T
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this right???

@rxy
the R2000T always reminds me of my speaker tongue.gif
cuz the design is pretty similar
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Yeah that is it.

The comment i made on the single dimensional/flat/muddle is referring to the R1900...in plain words...it's crap...Sorry....maybe the display unit kaput, i dunno. Also, it didn't help all the speakers are blaring Emil Chau...i simply detest that guy.


Added on July 30, 2010, 11:59 pmSo I give a clue which model I bought:

It's NOT an Edifier.

It has a subwoofer.

It has 2 satellites.

hehehehe.

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post Jul 31 2010, 12:01 AM

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Done further testing with my Piano just now. Quite satisfied..significantly louder than the built in speakers. Played some music(Emi Fujita) with a DVD player as well. Sounds good, but nowhere as good as my Yamaha receiver with bookshelf speakers and subwoofer....it's a given i guess.


Added on July 31, 2010, 12:03 am
QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 31 2010, 12:01 AM)
no midrange woofer la... just midrange driver
and my woofer weak one la... cuz the amp... meh... I oso dunno why lol
I think the tweets and mids are more sensitive than woofer... that's why it sounded like lack of bass...
still not sure tho cuz~~~ lol I dunno how to explain tongue.gif

still very suspense leh... what did Matrix choose lol?
Aego M??? dun say creative cuz creative in Malaysia very hard to claim warranty shocking.gif
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Tomorrow i tell. Got more stories tomorrow.

Now i sleep.

Good night everyone.
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post Jul 31 2010, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 31 2010, 12:05 AM)
AAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaaaaarrrggghhh..... dun spam us T_T (o wait... I oso spam alot d whistling.gif )
dun make me suspense... later I can't sleep sad.gif
u din choose Edifier I sad oredi sad.gif
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Just joking,

Actually,

An AEGO-M. smile.gif


Added on July 31, 2010, 5:09 pmOh ya, the additional story is I bought it from Hiway Laser coz i thought the price was RM 690.

But the salesguy there insist it is RM750. Later KuchingTiger/Kenny PM me and told me the priice is RM690 (I PMed him earlier in the day). I told him i already bought one from his shop at RM750 and asked him if i can get an RM60 refund. He immediately agrees, apparently his staff not aware of the promotion. So today i get back my RM60 from HiwayLaser.

Thumbs up for KuchingTiger/Kenny for good service and honouring his price!

Btw, the offer last until today....only 3 hours to go...better grab one if you intend to buy it now, or it's RM750 on Monday!!!

For RM690 it's RM109 cheaper than the cheapest T3 at RM799. It fits my purpose well, the satellites can be put on my piano and the sound is great.

Sound quality is way ahead of all those Edifiers R1900 and R2000. And the bass is not boomy, fits my need exactly. smile.gif

Now i only wonder how to mount the satellites on the wall....hmmm...


Added on July 31, 2010, 5:39 pm
QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jul 31 2010, 12:26 PM)
that is my point, Edifier never get the same spotlight like Creative, Altec Lansing and Logitech did in big name PC mags and site review such as Amazon, CNET etc. Those western people think Edifier as a cheap China brand speker while discredit that AL, Creative and Logitech also made from China factory.
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Made in China is not same as China Brand bro. China Brand generally has zero quality, it's a fact. Even SONY, MS etc all made in China...but it is NOT China Brand. There's a big difference. I bought numerous China Brands stuff before..now i totally ban em.

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post Jul 31 2010, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 31 2010, 05:51 PM)
ahaha sweet... aego m rulez... though I still love edifier doh.gif

enjoy your system icon_rolleyes.gif

now the question is... black or white speaker??? drool.gif

hey... can show some pictures of it??? although I know how it looks like but I still wanna see some pics

this is how you mount the speakers on the wall
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Hey, how much is this thing?
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post Aug 1 2010, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(chiakm @ Aug 1 2010, 10:29 AM)
Hey guys i need a bit of a help again. Previously i asked for a good speaker to go along with my RM200 budget. But while browsing the garage sales i noticed the Creative T20 speaker.
I've read reviews about it online and it seems clarity is its strong point, which is what i want.
I saw someone selling it for RM220 (probably Series I), while someone else is selling it for RM340 (from the pic it seemed like a Series II). Any difference between the 2?
I dont mind forking out a little extra if it's a really good speaker though. I dont mind the 2.0 set up since my current speakers are 2.0 also.
Any personal opinions on the T20?
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I think i know who's the person selling the T20. SMS the guy a few times, never bothered to reply me...i think he's not keen on selling anymore. If you have budget just go straight to T40. Around RM 580. Otherwise, the T20 2.0 at RM3xx.

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post Aug 3 2010, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 31 2010, 05:51 PM)
ahaha sweet... aego m rulez... though I still love edifier doh.gif

enjoy your system icon_rolleyes.gif

now the question is... black or white speaker??? drool.gif

hey... can show some pictures of it??? although I know how it looks like but I still wanna see some pics

this is how you mount the speakers on the wall
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It's black.

Maybe i post a proper review somewhere later with photos, i also intend to do a test: low end speaker vs High End speaker VS onboard sound vs X-Fi sound card....to see if there's a significant difference or not...smile.gif I think it'll help a lot of people with this dillemma. But i move very slow...maybe not so soon, i haven't even done proper testing for the Aego-M now...

Say, how do i burn in this speaker? Is it needed? Or i just let it run it course?


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