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 HDMI Cable Quality?, Really make a diffrent?

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TStracktion3
post Nov 3 2009, 01:56 PM, updated 16y ago

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HDMI is basically digital information. Does it make any diffrent?

Check this link. Very good info about it.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/hdmi-cables...just-facts.html



Also, please share your experience on the HDMI cable you use. Thanks.
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post Nov 3 2009, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(yonggoh @ Nov 3 2009, 02:03 PM)
i think we need an official HDMI Cable discussion thread smile.gif
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Thats why I created this one. Can't find anything about it. The link has a video. Watch that video. very good.
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post Nov 24 2009, 12:08 PM

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IMHO a high end HDMI cable will make sense is when it your Bluray Player is decoding the audio. This is because, once the audio is decoded, it will be transfered in PCM format via the HDMI cable. Here, we know, a good cable for an analog signal play important roles. So, it will be the best to decode your audio at the AVR instead of the bluray player. For those wants the player to decode are usually those player that could output via 7.1 analog signal at the palyer to your older but hign performance AVR. But if you wants to decode everything in the player, a high end quality HDMI should be able to make a diffrent. smile.gif Just my 2 cents though.

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post Nov 24 2009, 02:22 PM

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I would suggest for those who play CD Audio. Try this test:

When you play CD Audio, compare between:
1. Use the HDMI cable to your AVR. At your AVR choose HDMI input.
2. Use a RCA cable red/white (L/R) to your AVR. At AVR chooce AV1 input.

Compare the result. You will notice the diffrent. This is how I listen to audio CD using my player. At least I can feel the diffrent.

In other words, if you plan to send digital signal, HDMI what ever price( with correct category) will do a good job. But if you plan to send an analog signal, get a good HDMI or out it thru other analog source. Just my 2 cents... tongue.gif
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post Nov 24 2009, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 24 2009, 02:24 PM)
What you compared is the DAC in your CD player vs the DAC in the AVR in addition to the analogue cable. This is not an apple to apple comparison! Not to mention possible room correction on one and not in the other.
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I mention used the same BDPlayer with both output ( HDMI and RCA) from BDPlayer. I only have 1 player.
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post Nov 24 2009, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 24 2009, 02:44 PM)
tracktion3,

when you output thru the RCA cables the BD player has already done the conversion to analog. When u send it thru the HDMI (unless u send a PCM) the conversion is done in AVR.
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Well, as I mention, it is about convinience and cheaper solutions. With only 1 (BD/DVD/CD) player, how to get the best out of it? So I used both cables. HDMI will be utilized when I watch movies, concert etc. So when I play movies( BD or DVD), the audio it bitstream to my AVR thru the HDMI. Audio quality not jeapordize.

When I play Audio CD with my BD player, I play thru my RCA L/R. At the AVR, I choose AV1 where my RCA cable is connected from my BD player. With this, I'm getting my audio playing thru a better RCA vs a "digitally design" HDMI cable. I choose this because Audio CD by it self is analog. This is of course my own interpretation. I can be wrong and there could be a better way. smile.gif

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post Nov 24 2009, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 24 2009, 03:08 PM)
No u're not off. CDs are digital...
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My apology.. is digital... but is a PCM format already.... smile.gif
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post Nov 24 2009, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 24 2009, 03:28 PM)
And PCM is also digital. Somewhere along the line that needs to be converted to analog. That is where a DAC comes into play. When you send out the signals using the RCA cable from ur BD player, the conversion is already done. Then ur AVR (depending on the AVR) might or might not apply room correction and will send the signals to ur speaker to output. When u send the CD audio stream thru HDMI, the conversion takes place in ur AVR.
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thanks for the clarification. I just feel the different somehow when I play CD thru the RCA.


Added on November 24, 2009, 10:30 pm
QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 24 2009, 05:56 PM)
crazy?? ask people to compare HDMI vs RCA analog for what? I tot comparing different brands of digital HDMI cable? apple to apple mah.. tongue.gif
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my apology, is not actually comparing it directly... is just a side topic from the original one. the idea is of this post is to mention that all same category HDMI performed the same. tongue.gif

The comparison is a suggestion to get the best of audio CD sound from a BD player.

This post has been edited by tracktion3: Nov 24 2009, 10:30 PM
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post Nov 25 2009, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Nov 24 2009, 11:19 PM)
bd60 using analog to play music cd sounded like crap. too bloody bright rclxub.gif
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As what sifu htkaki said, u already have sooooooooooo good CD player, why use BDplayer?

MY case is diffrent mah... budget and entry level. I hardly listen CD at home. Mostly in my car anyway. So, the easiest solution is RCA which somehow is ok for me, not bright.

I understand thet PCM is the last format before DAC in the BDP. Since Audio CD already in PCM format, so sending it directly thru RCA after DAC and go direct to AVR as analog with the least "conversion" to provide the best result. But I guess as some sifu mention here, depending how good is the DAC in my Pana BDP60. tongue.gif


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post Apr 7 2010, 02:16 PM

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I remember the movie by P.Ramlee. Nujum Pak Belalang.

He can convince the people to look at a bowl filled up with water that he could see something.....at 1st alot cant see.. then when he said those cant see are born out of a wedlock... everyone start to see. ha ha ha

This guy in SenQ is like this nujum pak belalang..... he tested a Monster cable and say.... u cant see the diffrent? must be non-trainned eyes... whuaa ha ha ha ha I dont mind. He should say what Pak Belalang said about born out of wedlock... then everyone can see...

jangan marah yah... I joke joke only.. tongue.gif

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